Randolph being a bit too kind to Glenn here:
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Randolph being a bit too kind to Glenn here:
https://streamable.com/wp8jt
Hell of a strike though
A really explosive run into the box from Hogan who took the initial shot, too. Would like to see more of him in an Ireland shirt.
You'd think a player capable of a run like that would have played more than 56 minutes all seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
Call him up Mick .
He picked up the senior award tonight for Duffy,who won it,thank Christ,ahead of Rice.Anyway there was a brief chat about Glenn’s retirement and he basically said ‘someone’ retired him.A not to subtle nod to O’Neill (Tony,presenting the award was all smiles).I think there may be a lot more to come out about the shambles and old-school Cloughie type stuff that was going on behind the scenes.We’re really short personnel wise going into this campaign.as bad as I’ve ever seen us,but hopefully Mick will lift the spirits of the squad and repair the damage to confidence done by Trap and O’Neill.Theres no major superstars on the short-term horizon (albeit a few very promising kids on the way),so we really more than ever will have to play above ourselves to get anywhere.Glen’s done it all before and unfortunately we may need him quite a bit over the qualifiers.
Best player on the pitch for Villa yesterday it seems. I've no issue with him being unretired but not sure his legs have 2 games in quick succession in them. We shouldn't need him v Gibraltar anyway so he should probably be held back for Georgia.
There's always a role for a senior figure like Glenn in the squad for experience, even if he doesn't end up playing, he'll be good around the place
Captained Villa today next to Hourihane in the middle to their eighth consecutive league win, best run of league results at the club since 1975.
What’s the Villa fans’ consensus on Whelan?Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Lazarus of late.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Fantastic!Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Renaissance man. He never relied on pace and the mind is getting sharper. Have massive respect for him and think he'll get another go in the PL and will be a great coach.
His stats are not good!
What stats
Whelan one of eight players released by Villa: https://www.avfc.co.uk/News/2019/06/...ve-aston-villa
He's 35 now, 36 in January, so might get a one year contract.
Maybe Stoke will suck it up. They could do with him.
Villa could do a lot worse then sign James McCarthy as Glenn's replacement
I was watching Youtube highlights of Croatia's win over Wales and down in the comments is one from Shane O'Connor (a poster on here by any chance?):
Bale reminds me of a young Glen Whelan, Blistering pace , technically gifted but no where near as handsome.
Maybe it was inspired by this! - https://twitter.com/FAIreland/status...816603138?s=19Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Has he still got no club?
There was talk earlier this month that Blackburn and Charlton were competing for his signature but my understanding is that he's still a free agent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Rumoured to be in Edinburgh speaking to Hearts.
He'll be taking quite a pay cut if he goes there. Must be no decent offers in the Championship for him.
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Originally Posted by Eirambler
Speaking sounds ok.....I'd worry for Hearts if he actually was lining out for them. A terrible player. We all know it.
His legs are gone but he still anticipates play well and his positioning is excellent. He can play the holding role better than anyone else we have available bar James McCarthy, whose durability remains a question mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
So my view is he can still do a job for us in a five man midfield.
But I don’t think he can play in a 4-4-2 anymore because he can’t cover enough ground.
Glenn Whelan and excellence don't go together.
Have to agree. Stuns me that people still talk of him in semi-glowing terms.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yard of Pace
Maybe one day he will be a great manager or assistant manager, but apart from one sumptuous goal against Italy, his playing days for Ireland are very forgettable.
I couldn't disagree more. The guy was an amazing player in terms of the role he was asked to perform, namely shielding the back four and breaking up the opposition's attack. As others have stated, his legs are gone but surely there's a team in League 1 who could used him for ten or fifteen matches this season. He'd be a great player to have on the bench to sub on when holding a lead.
I'll disagree with Colbert on the word amazing but the i think the critiscism of Whelan is misplaced most of the time. He's been consistently picked by a succession of managers because of his strengths. Every manager knew what they would get from him, no more, no less. As a manager that's a great asset in a player. He wasn't an 8 out of 10 ala Denis Irwin but he was 6.5-7.5.
The fact that no player came into squads he was a part of and took his place says a lot.
10 years in the Premier League and people think he's crap... mind-boggling.
I don't think anybody said 'crap'. Extremely limited but he obviously had something about him. If I was to judge him solely on his Ireland performances there's no way I would have thought this fella was a PL regular for so long. I do think he was almost symbolic of how limited we were as a team throughout his career with us, but it wasn't his fault he was the best available at times.
I think it's just lazy to say loads of managers picked him so he must be good, even if our own eyes told us otherwise at times. He could obviously read the game reasonably well but he was slow, uncomfortable on the ball, reluctant to receive it and generally not much of a physical presence in there either.
There was always a notion amongst his defenders that we'd miss him when he's not there and that we wouldn't have conceded certain goals if he had been on the pitch but, in general, we have got most of our better results over the years without him.
Nail on the head. Whelo fans alway say but but but he was in the prem. Use your own eyes and make a decisionQuote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
imo james McCarthy is playing a different sport to whelo.
However what we will all agree on he has a heart of a lion and was and is a patriot
Well for the last two years McCarthy has been playing a different sport because it's rarely been football. And I'd hardly say most of our better results have been without him. Yeah, Italy at the Euros and Germany at home he didn't play, but away to Germany, Austria away, both Bosnia games he was in the team.
I agree he was slow but I don't agree that he was uncomfortable on the ball or reluctant to receive it. I think that has been his greatest quality for us in recent years. He has been willing to take possession in all situations, particularly situations where those around him would be unable to retain the ball (e.g. Hendrick).Quote:
Originally Posted by DeLorean
Austria away is bad example tbh. They were all over us when he was in the pitch. He goes off injured and boom we are all over them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
What Glen Whelan did over the years in an Ireland shirt, did not work by any stretch of the imagination. Yet he kept doing the same thing game in and game out and was hoping, I assume, for a different result? Someone pointed out earlier that it is not his fault he was picked all the time. Absolutely true. And also true that he was and is a patriot. But in terms of ability, that's a different story. Glen Whelan is like a multitude of Irish players over the years who were not of international standard but who benefitted from a reluctance by managers to try out an alternative player, or play someone in a different role.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
i suggest you have another look... austria pummelled us for the last 15 mins or so of that gameQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
He didn't play in Stockholm, definitely one of our better performances around that time, probably our best. He didn't play in Cardiff either and, as Diggs says, Vienna is a strange example given he went off injured after 24 minutes. Even the Germany away game he went off after 54. Granted we conceded afterwards and needed to chase they game, but we easily played our best football in that match without him. I'll reluctantly give you Bosnia in terms of results, but we were pretty poor over there and he was dreadful that night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Sorry but we've been watching a different Glenn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Signs for Hearts - https://www.heartsfc.co.uk/news/arti...ns-with-hearts