US Presidential Elections

Dodge pretty much summed up the night if people haven't watched it yet. I thought McCain did well in the opening exchanges but completely lost his way hilst talking about negative ad campaigning (can't believe he accused Obama of starting them). He sounded like a bitter old man for the rest of the night, even looking as if someone had roused him from his mid afternoon sleep at times, and then Obama slaughtered him on healthcare (worst beating I've ever seen a top ranking politician take in a live forum).

Game, set and match Obama :)

McCain certainly started out well and seemed to be in control for the first 30 minutes, but after that, it was all downhill from there. Obama showed tremendous discipline throughout the debate and none more so than when it came to the VP picks. He could have skewered Palin, but obviously thought the better of it.

He's still way ahead in the polls and it seems that McCain had one last chance to inject some doubt about Obama, but failed miserably.

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Originally Posted by strangeirish

McCain certainly started out well and seemed to be in control for the first 30 minutes, but after that, it was all downhill from there. Obama showed tremendous discipline throughout the debate and none more so than when it came to the VP picks. He could have skewered Palin, but obviously thought the better of it.

He's still way ahead in the polls and it seems that McCain had one last chance to inject some doubt about Obama, but failed miserably.

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I thought McCain fell between 2 stools on the two attacks he's been making about Ayres and Acorn. He should have either not brought them up or gone on a proper attack and told the people what Obama had done wrong. By mentioning them but not challenging Obama's explanations/excuses (delete according to your own opinions) he came across as a bit desperate, throwing these things out in hope rather than in expectation.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

McCain continued to bring it back to "joe the plumber" who he reckoned would be worse off under Obama. It was ridiculously annoying. While I thought McCain was shpaing up for a big win at the start he basically just lost it a little, and Obama definitely came across as more "presidential".

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Say it ain't so, Joe. Was 'Joe the plumber' a republican plant? Idle speculation maybe, but have a read any way. Click.

If this turns out to be true, dirty deeds, done dirt cheap, springs to mind.

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Originally Posted by strangeirish

Say it ain't so, Joe. Was 'Joe the plumber' a republican plant?

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Worse still he isn't even a plumber or at least an illegal one! :eek:

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UPDATE: MSNBC has confirmed that Wurzelbacher has no plumbing license.

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http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/o...o-snl-weekend/

Palin to appear on SNL. Should be interesting

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101603436.html

The Washington post strongly backs Obama for president (no big surprise)

I won at McCain Bingo last night. Democrats Abroad had a screening of the debate last night. One of the members handed around bingo cards based on clichéd terms McCain would use in the debate. His use of 'Country First' completed my 5-in-a-row for Bingo. No prize but it was a good laugh.

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Originally Posted by Aberdonian Stu

I won at McCain Bingo last night. Democrats Abroad had a screening of the debate last night. One of the members handed around bingo cards based on clichéd terms McCain would use in the debate. His use of 'Country First' completed my 5-in-a-row for Bingo. No prize but it was a good laugh.

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Whaaat??? :confused: "My Friends" didn't win it? :eek:

Very good :D

It was gas. I'd say around two thirds of my sheet was filled in, had four different routes to victory but then he had a 5-10 minute spell without using a single new cliché, just recycling ones he'd already used before coming good in the end.

Maybe a good reason not to put too much faith in polls. A poll released Friday has McCain leading Obama by 52% to 46% in the traditional red state of Missouri. However, large rallies don't always equate to cast ballots, but you have to admit, 100 thousand people turning out for Obama on Saturday in Missouri, is quite impressive.

http://s.wsj.net/media/obamastlouis_...1018135311.jpg

The wife comments: "Pity there wasn't some of those postal workers around." ROFL.

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

The wife comments: "Pity there wasn't some of those postal workers around." ROFL.

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As in, mailing in your vote???

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

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Originally Posted by dahamsta

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_postal

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That's what I thought at first, but didn't get it. Edited my post to clarify the crowds turned out for Obama.;)

Dammit, now I look like a moron. Again. :)

Obama truly is a rockstar in politics, and I know I'm going to regret supporting him in 2-3 years. But dammit, I do.

adam

Just watching Powell on MTP.

The story here, natch, is that Powell has endorsed Obama.

What was less reported was the withering summary of the GOP he has given - the most effective, most damning discussion of the GOP I have ever seen

Incredible TV
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540...65729#27265729

Up to approx 13 mins is the most effectively withering dimissing of the GOP

NB - note the constant use of the phrase "intellectual vigour" - a pop at W and Mc

An article on Obama and black votes to swing congress and senate seats?

Has anybody a source for the amount of newly registered voters based on party affiliation? Every article I read gives democrats at least 4/5 to every 1 republican. IF that’s nationwide (or at least in the "swing" states) Obama might win without people switching from republican to democrat

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Originally Posted by Dodge

An article on Obama and black votes to swing congress and senate seats?

Has anybody a source for the amount of newly registered voters based on party affiliation? Every article I read gives democrats at least 4/5 to every 1 republican. IF that’s nationwide (or at least in the "swing" states) Obama might win without people switching from republican to democrat

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Don't have a source, but on our local news here this morning they said, in Florida, the Democrats have 600k new voter registrations compared to 250k for the Repugs.

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Originally Posted by Dodge

An article on Obama and black votes to swing congress and senate seats?

Has anybody a source for the amount of newly registered voters based on party affiliation? Every article I read gives democrats at least 4/5 to every 1 republican. IF that’s nationwide (or at least in the "swing" states) Obama might win without people switching from republican to democrat

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Originally Posted by strangeirish

Don't have a source, but on our local news here this morning they said, in Florida, the Democrats have 600k new voter registrations compared to 250k for the Repugs.

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Evening Herald (Dublin) article from last week, stated 90,000 new Democrat registered voters in Nevada (or 90,000 more than Republicans). But it emphasised that the new voters had to turn up and vote as they had registered. It stated that with 90,000 more voters, than the Democrats had a good chance of over-turning the 21,000 votes Bush beat Kerry by in 2004.

Also, the Herald mentioned a returning Republican Senator Terry published a letter from a Terry-Obama voter in a Nevada(?) newspaper.

What is the usually deadline for voters to register in any of the ballots?

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Originally Posted by HarpoJoyce

What is the usually deadline for voters to register in any of the ballots?

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It varies from state to state. Florida is 29 days before, Ohio is 30 days etc...

See here