Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Presumably they'd argue they were the best qualified of the A Championship teams, just as Fingal were when Kilkenny left.

The Genesis Report has been discredited so many ways that it really shouldn't be allowed in any serious discussion.

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I wouldn't knock all points made in the report, especially regards a pyramid structure.

Given that the report was seemingly put together by monkeys with typewriters, any vaguely sensible recommendations are likely to be pure chance. Which means that they're perfectly admissable in a discussion if and only if they're separately backed-up. Which means that the Genesis Report - being written by monkeys with typewriters - can be dismissed.

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Originally Posted by Spudulika

While lots of mud is thrown at Sporting Fingal, they were lumped into the league ahead of time and have been getting along nicely. Remember they originally went for the A Championship, in the real world they would have started in the 7th level. As it stands our system doesn't work.

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More likely, they'd have done an MK Dons and bought out a club at level three or four.

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Originally Posted by micls

Is it? If football was about entertainment and atmosphere then last season we would have had 0 fans. Football is about identifying and supporting your local team. It can be incredibly boring, most clubs dont have a great atmosphere every game, but it's part of what you are, so you go and you support YOUR team. And when the good times and entertainment comes it's all the sweeter.

For any die hard football fan it's about a lot more than entertainment and atmosphere. To casual fans and teenagers you may be right.

None of the above shows any reason for excluding Monaghan though. If we excluded every club that wasn't entertaining or had a good atmosphere then we'd be left with about 3 clubs a year.

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Football properly played - the kind of attacking, passing, skillful way that Fingal play - is by definition entertaining. It's hardly something that only teenagers and casual fans find important. Fingal play the game as it should be played and for that reason if we do go t**s up then it'll be a tragedy for the league. Fingal's support increased steadily over 2010, due to large part to how they play the game. We're doing the right thing. Attendences will grow because people want to see the beautiful game played beautifully.

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Originally Posted by bingoballs

No disrespect to Fingal fans but I wouldn't be sorry to see them going belly up. Whats their average home attendance? When they went 2-1 up against Shams in a Dublin derby in Tallaght you would imagine their fans would have gone mad, all eight of them did alright! Surely they are relying on European qualification to fund themselves for next season. They have a handful of fans and should they qualify for Europe, they would only be depriving Sligo Rovers or Pats fans a European adventure that their seasons truely deserve.

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There were 100 + of us at that match. A few more than '8' or a 'handful'. Numbers are growing all the time...wait and see!

We are waiting...
Hopped in here thinking that you were making the fabled announcement.
Ah well... we live in hope.
But seriously, b2bw, ye do play a variety of attractive football, but give over your talk, you make it sound like Arsenal are playing in Morton.

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Originally Posted by born2bwild

It's hardly something that only teenagers and casual fans find important.

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Who said it was?

There's a difference between finding it important and it being the reason you follow your team.

Sure they're only new. Support will come along eventually and they're in a catchment area, North County Dublin, where no other clubs have a definite support base.

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Originally Posted by RahenyBohs

Sure they're only new. Support will come along eventually and they're in a catchment area, North County Dublin, where no other clubs have a definite support base.

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Apparently they've enquired to Shels about renting Tolka next season, Sporting Dublin City Council would be a more apt name for the club if that happens

Smart move. They really need a bigger stadium.

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Originally Posted by total hoofball

Apparently they've enquired to Shels about renting Tolka next season, Sporting Dublin City Council would be a more apt name for the club if that happens

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hardly a major geographical switch if true and certainly unlikely to have much impact on crowds one way or the other. still sourcing a new ground hardly backs up the "fingal going bust theory".

Tolka is more of a footballing stadium, it'd be a good move until they can set-up base in Lusk whenever that might happen.

It's also Shels' home ground; we've seen what's happened Rovers and Dublin City when they've been groundsharing in areas where their rivals are established (as much as anyone in this league is established in their area).

Also, I'd be surprised if Lusk didn't go the way of Bohs, Pat's, Shels, Cork and Drogheda's (and Derry's?) new ground plans. Bit of a trend there...

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

It's also Shels' home ground; we've seen what's happened Rovers and Dublin City when they've been groundsharing in areas where their rivals are established (as much as anyone in this league is established in their area).

Also, I'd be surprised if Lusk didn't go the way of Bohs, Pat's, Shels, Cork and Drogheda's (and Derry's?) new ground plans. Bit of a trend there...

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If I were in charge of Fingal, I'd get into Lusk as soon as possible. Even if they had to play in a field. Get onto the site by whatever means you can, throw up a fence, some turnstiles, and a small stand (the Rehab Bingo stand in Bray can't have cost much!), and do the bare minimum to get licensing. All the fancy stuff can come later, but they have to start building their fan base in Lusk now. Could building a small, tidy, interim ground really cost that much more than the rent on Tolka would?

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

It's also Shels' home ground; we've seen what's happened Rovers and Dublin City when they've been groundsharing in areas where their rivals are established (as much as anyone in this league is established in their area).

Also, I'd be surprised if Lusk didn't go the way of Bohs, Pat's, Shels, Cork and Drogheda's (and Derry's?) new ground plans. Bit of a trend there...

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yea, agree 100%. I suspect Sporting fingals proposed new stadium may well go "on the long finger" especially as the clubs main funder is hardly likely to be putting much money up. i seem to recall that some deal had been agreed so may be some way up road ?

cant see any new stadia built any time soon given the economic situation

Bohs could try to sell them Dalymount maybe??

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Bohs could try to sell them Dalymount maybe??

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..........Only if they agree to buy it TWICE :cool:

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Originally Posted by Lim till i die

Bohs could try to sell them Dalymount maybe??

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lessons on business administration from a Limerick fan?!?!?! :eek::p

Lessons on business administration from a Limerick fan to a Bohs fan

So I think we can allow it.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Lessons on business administration from a Limerick fan to a Bohs fan

So I think we can allow it.

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hey hey - sure Bohs are in a spot of bother for now but we're not the ones who reformed 37 times or something (thats what the 37 referred to, right?) ;) ;)