https://www.finnharps.ie/post/finn-h...te-august-2019Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
i never thought we’d see phase 2.
I also for what it was worth thought it was a woeful idea to tie funding for the training facility to the stadium
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https://www.finnharps.ie/post/finn-h...te-august-2019Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
i never thought we’d see phase 2.
I also for what it was worth thought it was a woeful idea to tie funding for the training facility to the stadium
Far as I know, the training facility is being done in conjunction with Donegal County council.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDMRooney
The Athlone type job is only phase one. We're going to end up with two main stands and two terraced ends.
im sure that’s the plan and I’ll believe we’ll see phase two when phase two starts in the BrandywellQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
On current timescale of delivery phase 4 should be complete in 43 years of there about!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Nigel i admire your unwavering belief but how often do club managed projects move beyond Phase 1!? Certainly 2 struggled to even gate phase 1 complete.
The whole League of Ireland is still in Phase One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I'm definitely in the 'believe it when I see it' camp too, but considering most of the terracing is expected to be part of phase one, I don't believe we'll end up with just one stand and a barren ground otherwise like Lissywollen.
I think I have certainly given up on the idea we will ever see anything. I don’t know whose fault all this is but even with all the barriers to projects in Ireland this has been just beyond justifying. As well as the fact nobody has ever been candid about the reasons for starting, stopping etc. At some point this is the fault of the board because while there is always a convenient excuse the economic crisis, the FAI things are being built and for some reason the club cannot get this doneQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Is the redevelopment of Dalymount still going ahead?
You're optimistic! Brandywell phase two should have been anounced back in 2017.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDMRooney
Its in appendix 1 of new deal, so expect movement soon. Even if money not announced for a while.
is the brandywell a regional/sub regional stadium for the purposes of the deal?Quote:
Originally Posted by A N Mouse
Deal? It is a sham deal cooked up by the DUP and Sinn Fein.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDMRooney
13.7 millon euro allocated to cash rich GAA for single use stadiums in Waterford Navan and some other kip.Nothing for Dalymount .
Thats the fault of the FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Also an extra 10 million for Connacht rugby.
No real need for the FAI to have any involvement.
Municipal stadium owned by the local authority.
My mistake, an extra 10 million for Connacht rugby, bringing the total to 20 million.Probably about 50 k per registered adult player in the province.
It is my understanding that Dalymount is being dealt with under stream one of the LSSIF the outcome of which hadn't been announced yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Extremely disappointing for all at Harps, biggest kick in the teeth is that I read today something like, that Connacht Rugby have had their stadium allocation increased to 20m from 10m courtesy of An Teesh.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Seen something in one of papers today that there is another tranche of funding to be announced on Monday Harps could feature in this?
It's for projects that are further behind in the development process based on what I read so that would definitely make sense for Harps and BohsQuote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
The thing that makes me so made angry about the FAI is there 3rd rate performance when compared to the GAA and IRFU when it comes to accessing governement funding. Most popular sport on the at this point only habitable planet in the universe, most registered players of any sport in the country and we had to have humpty dumpty, dumbo and Laurel and Hardy in charge.
The Sportsground probably does need improving but didnt think 20mil worth of work! Undoubtedly Pearse Stadium will get a multimillion € redevelopment soon enough. With ED Park (a good facility too), the Rugby and GAA ground(in due course) in a city of 80K - value for money for the taxpayer...
The FAI have been incredibly poor at lobbying for funding of new gounds to the point of contempt for their own sport. But the level of funding for GAA and IRFU has a lot to do with so many TDs only looking to support their own insular agenda. Sure look at McCreevy and his support of horse racing and reducing betting taxes down to 1% as a raging gambler, one of the most blatant incidences of looking after personal interest in sport. The active blocking of a new stadium for rugby and soccer for Dundalk and Drogheda by likes of Peter Fitzpatrick (ex Louth GAA manager) is another fine example.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingswood Rover
It was funded from the scheme as such previously.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDMRooney
If you care to look you'll find quotes from usual suspects suggesting dcfc play in IL if they want to avail of such funding.
It isn't new money, any announcement on stadia (possible exception of particular $h1tshow in Belfast) will be getting on three years late. So yeah, we could have had an announcement about phase two before completion of phase one, how mad would that have been?
Finn Harps released a statement on the matter this morning:
https://www.finnharps.ie/post/finn-h...sh7ifj221LZOz8Quote:
Originally Posted by Finn Harps
Didn't Shane Ross say last month that clubs only had to apply and they'd get funding, or that he wanted to see a lot more applications from LoI clubs, or something along those lines?
Both the Rugby & GAA have strong associations constantly lobbying for them while the LOI & football in general have the FAI :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalymountrower
Shane Ross said a lot of things. He gave assurances to Harps that he reneged onQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Well yeah - but if Shane Ross said these things, it should be emphasised I think.
Did the site have to be purchased after the land swap with the developer fell through? Not knowing the ins and outs I'd have thought that if contracts were signed with the developer back in 2007 that they should have been held to the contractual obligations. Yes the bottom fell out of the property market but tough, the builder speculated and were going to lose money - many people ended up in negative equity but couldnt renege on agreements made. Also surely Finn Park recovered a lot of its value by even the 2014 push and definitely 2017. I think it was said that new plans mean that Finn Park will will be held on to, Stranrolar is key to Harps plans so cant Finn Park be back on the table as up for sale even at 75% of 2007 value. That'd generate roughly 800k and would finish the current phase, keep things moving until the issue with the Dept is sorted.
I dont know what sort of site prep work was needed and could have eaten in to the initial 750k (assuming all of the 2019 300k was used up revising plans) but i'd have thought there was enough in the overall 1mil to secure the site from deterioration while waiting - an additional year is frustrating but is it really going that mouldy or will much more so in a year? The developer doesnt want to continue work until money is payed up front and they are probably right considering promised money transpired to = €0 available to pay them but if proportionate funding is needed to draw down a grant where would Harps secure that 20% or whatever is required these days (I doubt it is matching funding as in the past?).
http://www.donegalsporthub.com/finn-...nding-debacle/
if this is accurate it is more complex than the Minister screwed us
What did Finn Harps do to be punished by the FAI - not release a statement massaging the former CEOs ego and backing him after the PAC charade? Sounds like the FAI have put all effort in to securing funding Glenmire at Harps expense. It's been mentioned on Orielweb that senior members of the Munster FA are relations of Delaney so one last dose of back scratching among the old cliqué. You'd think all things considered that the Dept of Sport would have snubbed a proposal that is so close to Delaney - a dose of their own medicine in punishment!Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDMRooney
Question for Sligo supporters or anybody who knows. How did Sligo manage to build their stand behind the goal for €200k? Is that the going rate for similar or was the work carried out by somebody with a grá for the club?
Also, in general, I wonder if the desire for cantilever style roofs hamstrings clubs a little bit. Does it mean that stands like that end up being uncovered with a vague plan to eventually put a roof in? Would fans have a big issue with support beams if it was a lot cheaper?
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Originally Posted by bohsmug
Personally, I hate support beams. They look amateurish and old. I cannot wait for the redeveloped Dalymount so they'll be removed and you won't miss headers, tackles, penalty incidents etc. Dalyer isn't even too bad when compared with the away end in Drogheda and Tolka Park.
QuOte from Councillor Joe Costelloe... collective punishment for the sins of the few in the FAI.Quote:
Originally Posted by SeanDMRooney
Labour candidate for Dublin Central, and spokesperson on Urban Regeneration Cllr Joe Costello has condemned the failure of Fine Gael to fund the development of Dalymount while millions has been found for other sports in the pre-election funding announcement.
Cllr Costello said:
"The failure of the Government to provide any funding for the redevelopment of Dalymount Park in the latest round of €77 grants for sporting infrastructure is astonishing and unacceptable. Dublin City Council has drawn up a regeneration plan for the stadium costing €35 million that would be financed jointly by the City Council and the Government. Each would contribute €15 million. However, the Government which was expected to deliver its share of €15 million in the Large Scale Sports Infrastructure Fund (LSSIF) gave absolutely nothing to the project.
"At the same time major funding was provided to the GAA and to Irish Rugby out of the €77 million fund. Indeed an extra €10m was found for Connacht rugby for Fine Gael candidates to announce locally on top of the €10m already allocated.
"It appears that Irish soccer has become the victim of the row between the FAI and the Government. Soccer is the sport engaged in by the largest number of young people in this country. Neither gaelic football nor hurling have equal numbers.
"Dalymount Park, the home of Bohemians, have been promised funding by the Government for a number of years. The stadium is to be developed as a community hub with a range of local sporting facilities and a new library for the Phibsborough area. Shelbourne Football Club would move from its base in Tolka Park and share the grounds. It was intended that the stadium would become the second tier stadium after the Aviva Stadium, hosting under-age and women’s international matches.
"This Government has destroyed the dream for a new home for Bohemians and Shelbourne and at the same time they have signalled to the business community and residents of Phibsborough that they do not care about a major project that would have kickstarted a major regeneration of Phibsborough."
Our rep has been quite outspoken about the need to implement change faster including at the AGM. But then only one FAI project made it at all so that could be smokescreen as well. We need to get to the bottom of what happened with this situation TBH.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Thats disgraceful behaviour from this sham of a government more obessed with the GAA and rugby. I stand corrected on what I said last week as todays announcements were for new projects only. Our only hope is to have Fianna Fail in charge.
FG must think that Joe McHugh is a shoe in, in Donegal come the election, but looking at the restless t from last time, 2 SF looks a possibility providing Pringle gets in McHugh could be our.
Wouldn't be surprised for an announcement for funding to be made yet, seems an awful OG for FG, but even if it is made doesn't mean it will come. Most People in Dublin NC (if that is where Dayler is) couldn't give a feck about Dayler, well not enough to count.
Harps' Paul McLoone will be on Highland Radio tomorrow morning at 9am to talk about the project and where we go from here. It'll be interesting to say the least.
https://bohemianfc.com/?p=15112
as suspected
Effectively, as expected, the government department made a balls of Harps application.
The application was initially turned down by the department due to a lack of an 'ecomonic appraisal'. After the sh!t-show they were met with in the aftermath of the announcements, this document was all of a sudden found somewhere.
The project has been put into the review stage with the other approved projects.
There's a limited time left for work to restart before the €1.2m already spent on the project is effectively wasted.