Darron Gibson

Well said. From what I can see, Besic plays in the Hungarian league and, on the assumption that he did quite well at the World Cup, international tournaments are not a very accurate barometer for relatively unknown players. That's not to say Martinez has signed him on the World Cup solely without having scouted him quite thoroughly before putting his hand in Kenwright's very tight pocket. But it's fairly ludicrous to insinuate that he's going to push two Irish players down the pecking order and out the door, an insinuation made exponentially defeatist by the fact that the two players in question play in completely different positions.

Gibson hopefully makes comeback appearance tomorrow against Tranmere. I hope that this is the beginning of a new era and he can go a long stretch now without succumbing to any more major injuries and he will hopefully play a big part for us in the next qualifying campaign.

Here's what Martinez has had to say:

"Darron Gibson is fully fit and he looks a refreshed, regenerated player," Martinez told evertontv. "He's been training in an impressive, impressive way and I would expect him to be involved like the rest of the squad."

http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archiv...-set-to-return

http://www1.skysports.com/football/n...ruciate-injury

That Muhamed Besic transfer to Everton appears to have stalled. Doesn't make much of a difference to Darron either way. He has to establish himself as McCarthy's partner over Barry anyway. He's making plenty positive moves and Martinez is making plenty positive sounds.

Still great that he's only 26. This is 'big season' territory for him at club and international level and he's starting as he needs to go on.

Take Martinez's sound bites with a pinch of salt. He repeatedly waxed lyrical about McGeady last year, but it didn't translate into starts.

Ya but didnt you know, he was managing Mcgeadys fitness etc etc...<interject here CD>

He does it for all players. Have you ever heard him say anything bad? Its a good motivational tool, thats all it is. Sure he would be starting about 25 players if you read into his comments meaning gametime.

For christ's sake Paul, you know full well I never said that.

No you said this, whats funny if it was me you and your cronies would have found these straight away in reply:

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" I'd say a lot of it has to do with the fact he's still working towards full match fitness (his pre-season started in January) and can't play three games in a week.
There's no sense bringing him on when you're 3-0 up if he needs the recovery time....You have to let players rest. He hasn't had a proper break in almost 18 months,..he needs to be managed for the crucial fixtures coming up."

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you also said this nonsense in rebuke to me, when i said not to be getting carried away and arsenal were in prime position for 5th. Who was right again, in fact loads of posts i found this to be the case, i should do a collage:

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At home, one of whom they've already beaten away. Arsenal have an easier run-in, but they've also only won one game in six in the league. I think both sides will drop points and Arsenal look more likely to drop silly points.

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It's one game, Paul, postpone the victory dance. Everton fans and Martinez have both been very positive about his contribution so far. I'd say a lot of it has to do with the fact he's still working towards full match fitness (his pre-season started in January) and can't play three games in a week.
There's no sense bringing him on when you're 3-0 up if he needs the recovery time.

You have to let players rest. He hasn't had a proper break in almost 18 months, he'll be stuffed by the summer e needs to be managed for the crucial fixtures coming up.

Fair enough, didn't realise I'd been so loose with my language, but I think my point was fairly clear was that the reason he wasn't playing many games is because he wasn't fit.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

For christ's sake Paul, you know full well I never said that.

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what was that. :P

only messing fair play for apologising and acknowledging your mistake.I forgive you.

Do you think he will play many games and start many games now CD, that original post and the one above suggests you do?

More nice words from Martinez on Gibson:

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Originally Posted by Martinez

“Darron is quite a different midfielder, he’s that sort of playmaker and for me he is one of the best passers in the league.”

”It has been a very frustrating time since he got injured. But he has shown some good flashes during pre-season but we must make sure we are patient enough to allow him to recover fully and if we can get him fully fit it will be a massive, massive boost for the squad.”

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http://www.squawka.com/news/roberto-...everton/158341

With Gibson again being precautionarily rested in the last friendly against Paderborn (another poor 3-1 defeat, McGeady played most of the game, McCarthy cameo) last week, I wouldn't be surprised if we don't see him for Everton until the europe league (18/9) or the carling cup (24/9) games next month. Possibly on the bench before that, but I can't see him starting before then. It'll be interesting to see if he's involved in our games next month. I wouldn't be surprised if he isn't.

For Everton's sake, hopefully Coleman, Lukaku and Mirallas are ready for Leicester on Saturday.

I read Martinez as saying that Darren was one of the best píssers in the league,
I suspect it's time to upgrade my lenses to compensate.

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Originally Posted by geysir

I read Martinez as saying that Darren was one of the best píssers in the league,
I suspect it's time to upgrade my lenses to compensate.

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Feast your eyes on this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajaDJ3Wch9M

Gibson is unlikely to feature in the forthcoming internationals as Martinez is slowing his comeback to ensure he doesn't break down: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30521482.html

He'll be trying to get him to defect to Scotland next.

Everton allegedly bringing in Mo Diame. No, really.

Gibson on the bench this evening for Everton, McCarthy and McGeady start

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Gibson is unlikely to feature in the forthcoming internationals as Martinez is slowing his comeback to ensure he doesn't break down: http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...-30521482.html

He'll be trying to get him to defect to Scotland next.

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Delighted to see Martinez has not succeeded in keeping gibson out of the international games. He talks alot of nonsense at times

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Delighted to see Martinez has not succeeded in keeping gibson out of the international games. He talks alot of nonsense at times

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His wife is Scottish. It must have been her putting him up to it.

By the way how bad was Barry today. If he keeps gibson out Everton will have no chance of making europe this year

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

Delighted to see Martinez has not succeeded in keeping gibson out of the international games. He talks alot of nonsense at times

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I would be inclined to side with Martinez on this one.