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https://www.finnharps.ie/post/finn-h...te-august-2019
If anyone cares about these updates anymore?
Athlone Town stadium Part II.
Boom is back! Property value of Finn Park must have recovered sufficiently to get the developer rolling again. 24 months from the first half of 2020 seem very long for one proper stand unless there is additional work being done on other sides eg terracing - stil long when stands can go up in 6 weeks these days.
And considering most of the structural work on the main stand is already done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Club hope to keep Finn Park now, which would be massive for the club.
Except under this plan Finn Park is retained.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
In any case everything is fecked until the department of Sport are happy with the FAI, and that does not appear to be imminent.
Is there some sort of cooling in relationships between SDCC and Shamrock Rovers?
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“Tallaght Stadium is a South Dublin County Council-owned stadium and to provide flags in the colours of Shamrock Rovers would not be in keeping with the promotion of the stadium as a destination for all events throughout the county.”
http://www.echo.ie/tallaght/article/...great-feedback
What's the real advantage of moving if they're only building one stand and want to retain Finn Park? Would something like Sligo Rovers main stand and adding simple terracing behind the grassy end of Finn Park not do a reasonable job? I would worry that you'll end up with Athlone Stadium 2. One great stand that covers all your needs and leaves you with an incomplete looking ground. If they do add terracing it will help with the "incomplete" aspect but that press release is a bit vague. Phase 2 in this country is a rarity.
Extra pitches and facilities is definitely a major upside- it's a massive toll on the club finding pitches for the various teams to train and play on, especially when there are 5 or 6 teams playing in the same weekend plus all the various Academy teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by bohsmug
I guess a lot depends on how developed those open terraces would be and what effort level would be required to upgrade them to seating or covered terracing.
TBH.. I love the idea of a big covered terrace on one side of the pitch!
From a purely superficial point of view, one behind the goal keeps the fans on camera. I'm possibly guilty of over focusing on that myself. I do think it's good that Harps are not just blindly pursuing the all-seater route for the sake of it. As much as United Park is a kip, I always love the atmosphere in the small covered terrace.
That's always been the council's view. It's why the seats are a complete eyesoreQuote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
And because they misunderstood the concept of mixing multiple colours/shades of seats to help make a ground not look so bad with empty seats and have doubled, trebled and with the new stand will quadruple down on the initial misunderstanding.
Agree! I far prefer to stand at games. Anything that encloses a ground and improves the atmosphere. Tallaght felt souless at times until the additional stand was built so when the 4th stand is built it will be a nice wee cauldron on big match nights.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Will there be work done on Finn Park itself when Stranrolar opens. I understand the need for additional pitches but it will still eat in to some of the finances to maintain.
I agree and actually I'm surprised how much that has lifted the place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
I would say that at some stage the stand will have to come down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
There will be costs involved in maintaining those extra pitches for sure but at the moment we end up paying to rent facilities in any case, and the week to week organization involved is a huge amount of effort that could be better spent elsewhere.
Been meaning to ask for a while. Sligo Rovers 2017 - 2021 strategic plan included this in the section about infrastructure improvements:
1 - Construction of a multi-purpose facility at the Church hill road end to include a large multi use room at ground level which can be used as an indoor function room, bar and gym and incorporating dressing room and showers and fully equipped first aid room to UEFA standards and storage.
2 - First floor of Church Hill Road facility to be designed to have approximately 200 seats overlooking the pitch with facilities for a TV control room, players lounge and some corporate/sponsored space in balcony seating.
3 - Museum section and a family section to be incorporated into the first floor space also. Achievement of this project listed under actions 3, 4 and 5 will be dependent on grant financing.
4 - Ground development plan which will prioritise works to be undertaken taking account of essential works and developments likely to generate revenue. The plan will provide for facilities as indicated in this strategy and will outline indicative funding requirements as well as funding opportunities.
Is there any word of this now?
it was also to do with the amount of very visible Dublin GAH flags around the stadium
Not sure if you're being serious here, but that isn't why they have that mess of colours.Quote:
Originally Posted by bohsmug
https://macdaraferris.wordpress.com/...2/take-a-seat/
This is what an assortment of colours across a stand to reduce the appearance of emptiness looks like: Attachment 2805Quote:
Originally Posted by MacDara Ferris
That is actually excellent pity they didn't do that in Tallaght.
The colours they picked lend themselves to doing it perfectly too just they either made a complete mess of it, or more likely reason is that there was just some stubborn gah head councillor that insisted the seats couldn't be rovers colours so this was the compromise and what was said to the press was a cover of thatQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Or the fact that the FAI were trying there best to get Pats into Tallaght with Rovers and put red white and yellow seats in along with the green and white ones?
Dont forget the possibility of Cabinteely also, Tallaght along with other spots thrown out there is they make a push for play-offs and manage to pull off a minor miracle of promotion. Tallaght is more than capable of hosting 2 'anchor' tenants!
Cabo are an interesting one. Devlin was in the media during the week talking about what would happen if they went up. Said Stradbrook wasn't up to scratch (which it clearly isn't), and that they'd have to look at Bray, UCD or Tallaght. But they were trying to get into Bray a couple of years ago, and UCD (the college) have previously blocked other clubs (Shamrock Rovers) from playing home games there. So Cabo seem to be running out of options for a new ground.
Cabinteely may as well fold now if they intend to become anchor tenants at Tallaght, they could maybe just about survive using it for a year but even that'd be pushing it. There's a reason Pats as a club and their fans are dead set against it.
Don't Cabinteely have plans to develop Kilbogget Park? Was in their 5 year plan anyway.
I can understand clubs and fans not wanting to leave their historical home area. Rovers thanks to history in general managed to both move from their traditional base and share grounds and survive bar the trouble they got in to over Tallaght development in the end ironically. Cabinteely could roll on as an amatuer type set-up, its by no means a forgone conclusion that they would go to the wall. If promoted they would in all likelhood be relegated again and go back to Stradbrook. You really really dont like the idea of Tallaght Stadium being used by other clubs RH ;) Any time its mentioned you blow cold quickly!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Well firstly I wasn't wrong about Dundalk and Tallaghts availability was I? You can ask Sligo fans how right I was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Secondly I've no problem with Cabinteely sharing Tallaght but it would throw their business plan out the window and some and there's not a chance they'd survive multiple years of it, Rovers barely survived it and no other club would stand a chance doing anything similar nevermind a club as small as Cabo (in LOI terms).
Unfortunately that issue never really aroseQuote:
Originally Posted by RathfarnhamHoop
Yeah yous played on the Tuesday night for the craicQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Yeah Cabo have plans to develop kilbogget but it is years away and dependent on council funding....it's about as close to reality as saying x random club has plansQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
There isn't a hope of Cabo moving to Tallaght.
The pitch is used by rovers most weekends for 19s etc from a pure logistics perspective but more importantly from Cabo' S viewpoint they can't get a crowd a 10 minute drive away from kilbogget in blackrock there is zero hope of people traveling out to tallafornia
No direct bus from kilbogget to Tallaght 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Think the idea was that Pats would move to Tallaght (as per FAI masterplan) Bohs/Shels at revamped Dalymount and Shams/Pats at Tallaght. Still the most likely long term outcome (even if Pats are playing hard to get).
Cabo fans don't use the bus service, they only run buses out there so the maids, gardeners and general helpers can get homeQuote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
Cabo missed a trick not pushing for a stadium to be included in the Cherrywood development, ideal location and good timing but seems to have passed them by.
They did push just got nowhere.
Council put lots of requirements on the developers 're schools public areas etc, even provision of full size astro which is already built but there are no access roads so local clubs can't use them.
I assume a new junior club will start up eventually when people start to move in.
....cherrywood fc ....
The council should build a 2000 seater stadium in kilbogget with a running track around it.
An astro pitch would accomadate seapoint RFC , Cabo, Cabo athletics club and some GAA crowd that play there as well.
If they provide comfortable padded heated seats with access to a bar (the rugger boys already have one....typically ! The locals will give it a try
that "some GAA crowd" were in last years all-Ireland ladies club final!Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
there are plans to develop the park but cant see a stadium being part of the plan. too much pressure on space for the existing requirements as it is.
That's a strategy that would see the league essentially end up with just 2 of those 4 teams surviving/competing in the long term.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinobohs
LOI club struggle to get crowds as it is. Putting two of them together in the exact same place in Dublin means they'd be competing for the same local support as well.
It's just typical FAI to come up with something like this, as they don't give a sh!te about the league..
100% correct , whichever of the two clubs was more successful would take any new "floating support" and Corporate sponsorship and bleed the other one dry.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Although maybe the FAI have a cunning plan for increasing average attendances Shelhiams V Shamrock Athletic ??
Would be a loss alright to lose the two lesser clubs but Bohs and Pats would just have to carry on 😎Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
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Originally Posted by marinobohs
Shelhimians and ShamCaboRock Atheltic carving up the euro places with Drogdalk town for years to come, you know it makes sense
I prefer Shamteely Athletic personally. Rolls off the tongue nicelyQuote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I quite like the name Bohbourne.
And Shamtrick Rovletics