I find it bizarre that Keane is calling Reid's exclusion a challenge, and yet was foaming at the mouth when Staunton excluded Liam Miller.
Guess it comes down to Keane respecting Trap...
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I find it bizarre that Keane is calling Reid's exclusion a challenge, and yet was foaming at the mouth when Staunton excluded Liam Miller.
Guess it comes down to Keane respecting Trap...
Did anyone notice Liam Mackey's article yesterday, giving a bit more detail on the spat between Reid & Trap?
No have you got a link.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Rumour I heard was that there was a spat in the bar between Trap who had just arrived and Reid who had also just arrived into bar. Trap ordered Reid to bed but he refused and was eventually persuaded by Brady to leave and go to his room.
ha that sounds awful stupid.
keane is getting annoying now, talking about everything to deflect from himself. He only said that so he could use it against reid to get him to better himself for sunderland. There is an awful amount of hypocrisy in football.
From yesterday's Examiner:Quote:
Originally Posted by drummerboy
The Dubliner was left on the bench for the World Cup qualifying win against Cyprus at Croke Park four weeks ago after claims that he and Trapattoni almost came to blows following the victory over Georgia in September, when the 69-year-old Italian was said to have broken up a late-night singing session led by a guitar-strumming Reid at the team’s hotel.
RIP Andy Reid's international career under the Trap regime. Impossible to come back from that - the Trap is a pensioner :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Trap breaks up an (illegal) late post match singing session a couple of days before our next game.
At long last we have a manager with cojones.
Its more likely that he took umbridge with Reid murdering Damien Rice songs....
Wasn't Andy just singing for his supper?!;)
Might have all been different if he was singing the Good Ship Kan goor oooooh
not possible....Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
already murdered?
Well he has more time to practice them now along with the new instrument hes learning for that TG4 show.........cringe.Quote:
Originally Posted by centre mid
I heard this rumour a number of weeks ago - the version of events that I heard was that drink was involved, Trapp broke up the session and Reid "went for him".Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I've a feeling that fact and fiction may have blurred here, as this story has been circulating since immediately after the Georgia game.
Purple Monkey Dishwasher.
Have you ever heard of an Irish session that did not involve drink?
So the inevitable line added was "there must have been drink involved"
and instantly accepted as gospel.
Has much more cred than a PMD
good job the Trap didn't have to endure the Harry Ramsden challenge........
on second thoughts when you look at Reidy......
I obviously don't know Andy Reid personally at all, but from what I've seen in interviews, this doesn't sound like him at all.
Can anyone honestly see Andy Reid lunging at a 69 year old Trapattoni?
At worst I could hear some disgruntled remarks, but this story reeks of bull****.
I agree. Surely loads of people would have seen this happen and yet all we have is vague details of something that might have happened. It is just as likely that nothing ever happened between Reid and Trap. No bar. No lingalong. No bust up.Quote:
Originally Posted by irishfan86
We have to remember too that this is the same manager who dropped Pirlo.
For good or ill, he has a system, and it seems that playmaking central midfielders are incompatible with it.
It's evident that he wasn't picked to play before the alleged late night alcohol lubricated session in Mainz.
But there was a glimmer of him on the sidelines being told to get ready to come on as a sub in the game against Georgia.
His árse has been sat firmly on the bench for the 2 games after that
Now people are looking for reasons as to why he is not in the squad.
Something happened.
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Originally Posted by Wolfie
ya and he was still around the squad for the following game. Thats a load of poppycock.
Quite possibly so - just to reiterate, I'm relaying the version of events I heard and I'm particularly dubious as to how accurate or true it is.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
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Originally Posted by paul_oshea
The true story which nobody seems to believe is all to do with a Mama Luigi pizza with double pepperoni. Trappatoni ordered it, Andy ate it, simple as that, and you don't eat the Capo de Tutti Capi's pizza!
with Keane gone, will he get more chances at Sunderland?
(well ..so the rumour of the day is going)
;)I was going to post that but didn't want this thread to be flooded by Keane enthusiasts....... There's a thread in world football for them to discuss now though so hopefully this will continue as the Andy Reid thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by macdermesser
Yep. If Trap as punishing him for an incident in Germany why would he be on the bench twice subsequently and only left out now?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
thats what i said.
Brady and Tardelli placated Trapp. Reid stayed, sulked for the duration and now Trapp feels that Reid is an unsettling influence on the squad?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Pure speculation though.
http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9JitDWQI9qcA member of at staff at the hotel recorded the incident and post it on utube. http://ie.youtube.com/watch?v=9JitDWQI9qcQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Brilliant - Andy Reid is no joking matter though.;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
yeah, but i nearly always ignore you.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Trap said that Reid was on a list of 3 subs he had planned to bring on in Montenegro (for one of the strikers) but he was happy with how it was going.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
If Trap was going to use him in the Montenegro game (and the Georgia game), that suggests he thought him at least deserving to be a substitute.
Something has changed.
Either something happened sometime or Andy Reid has simply been dropped.
Most people now can't understand why he isn't in the squad.
Journalists have shifted towards the Mainz story/rumour.
Could well be that after Trap out sprinted Andy in a fitness test, he had second thoughts .
We, as Ireland fans, are more familiar with Andy Reid than Trap is.
We've seen his goals, and his performances for us over the last few years.
Since Trap has arrived, Andy Reid has gone from key player at Sunderland, to a borderline starter.
In the weeks leading up to this Poland friendly, Reid didn't play at all in the Premiership.
If Reid was dropped, and so were the likes of Long and Whelan, then I'd have no problem with it, as he'd be showing consistency.
My problem with Reid's omission is that it isn't really consistent with Trap's other decisions.
Why Long gets to stay, and Reid doesn't, makes no sense to me.
The Sunderland v Blackburn game tomorrow should be an interesting. We could have Reid up against Andrews.
If Reid plays. Probably more interest in if Roy Keane turns up. According to Sunderland Echo Keane has quit then they say this is not true. No smoke without fire id say.Quote:
Originally Posted by Noelys Guitar
Rubbish. Keane will be in the dugout today.Quote:
Originally Posted by viagogo
From today's Guardian:
However, the success of Richardson and Malbranque [in the centre] has often led to Keane leaving Andy Reid's goal-conjuring invention on the bench. When Sunderland's players recently paraded at a charity fashion catwalk, the guitar-strumming, Reid - a talented singer-songwriter - provided both backing music and vocals. The diminutive, slightly chunky midfielder can be similarly inspiring on the pitch and his presence invariably helps Sunderland flow.
Yet if Djibril Cissé craves the Dubliner's improvisational passing incision, Keane appears to have become slightly fixated with computerised analysis of players' performances just lately and Reid is probably not top of the class when it comes to the ProZone print-outs adorning the manager's desk.
Reid on the bench.
Didn't Reid say his prozone stats are up there with most premiership players? At least that's what I remember a commentator say earlier this season.