AIPL plans revealed

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Originally Posted by gspain

On the contrary I think the "highlight everything negative we can about" domestic football campaign in the media has been cleverly orchestrated by Platinum 1.

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Same here.

And platinum's handling of Barcelona friendlies in Scotland is vastly different to running a full national league.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Interesting aside in the Independent today about yesterday's game between Cobh and Sunderland. Only 3000 went along, prompting McDonnell to note that perhaps the novelty had worn off seeing Sunderland play. If that's the case (and I'm sure there were numerous other reasons why the crowd was that low), there's no way an AIPL would sustain the interest in this country long enough to have even one season with ten fully-pro teams, let alone to keep it going. Nothing in the Platinum One proposals have addressed this (bar that catch all, "marketing"...)

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Rangers came to play Linfield 3 or 4 seasons in a row. The crowds where hitting 20,000 at the start, but the last one only had 12,000 or so.

The point is, the novelty of watching Rangers in a friendly worn thin with the Ulster/Irish Rangers support.

But the support for Rangers is still as strong as ever, just not in a friendly game.

Platinum One have announced the plan is not feasible anymore

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/221-01.html

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Same here.

And platinum's handling of Barcelona friendlies in Scotland is vastly different to running a full national league.

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Well were they behind the Hearts Barca game??If so it they didnt handle it very well as Hearts made a loss when they played Barcelona.

I also believe P1 were(are)behind all the negative media reports on LOI football.

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Originally Posted by Battery Rover

Platinum One have announced the plan is not feasible anymore

http://www.rte.ie/aertel/221-01.html

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Hmm. I wonder what's changed? (Or more accurately, what's the straw that just broke the camel's back?)

Good riddance anyways.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Hmm. I wonder what's changed? (Or more accurately, what's the straw that just broke the camel's back?)

Good riddance anyways.

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They either:
1) Over-estimated the willingness and ability (see below) of target clubs to proceed
2) under-estimated the pushback from the FAI and IL
3) lost their bottle at taking on the existing leagues
4) don't have access to the money to launch it they thought they would

or possibly a combination.

Since the time they first started discussing the AIL, Bohs land deal has started to look dodgy, Drogs plans have pretty much died, Derry have announced a return to part-time and Cork have gone into examinership.

And both jurisdictions are in a recession.

None of that's a shock though. Suppose the money just ran out.

The recession would not have helped.You dont want to be trying this when money is tight all round.

Looks like they overestimated the clubs involved.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Derry have announced a return to part-time

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WTF are you talking about, there is absolutely ZERO talk of part-time football, yet. In fact two players have just had two year extensions on there full-time contracts, one just signed new for the club on a full-time contract, and apparently others will sign extensions, we have pretty much a full full-time squad for the next two seasons, after that its anyones guess.

Unless you know something the rest of us dont?

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Originally Posted by garyderry

WTF are you talking about,

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Any need?

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Originally Posted by garyderry

there is absolutely ZERO talk of part-time football, yet. Unless you know something the rest of us dont?

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There definitely was talk. Fair enough that it wasn't announced.

But, how long we have players signed for is no guide to how long we will be fully professional for. Take Cork as an example.

Its highly conceivable at the end of this season that Pats will be the only full time team left. Will we still be professional in that case?

Didn't MariborKev say it on here? That's not far off being official.

The Indo today reported the end of Platinum One as a "shock" move. Adds weight to the theory that newspapers have been giving P1 a blank page to write whatever they want about the league.

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Originally Posted by OneRedArmy

Any need? There definitely was talk. Fair enough that it wasn't announced.

But, how long we have players signed for is no guide to how long we will be fully professional for. Take Cork as an example.

Its highly conceivable at the end of this season that Pats will be the only full time team left. Will we still be professional in that case?

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Fair enough your going to have a lot better idea of the internals of the club than most on here, me included, however every statement and comment from every one related to the club mentioned cutting back in the short-term so we can have a professional team long term, no mention of part-time, but talk of a smaller squad and cutting back wages

Isnt the whole basis of the new ground and hiring a full-time
commercial manager to attempt to sustain a full-time squad?
if that doesnt happened, we will definitely end up Part-time,
however there has been fairly consistent statements from Pat McDaid
and Stephen Kenny stating there is no plan to go part-time?

As for the 'WTF', that was shock that a derry fan (with a fair idea what is going on and not exactly known for scare mongering or talking rubbish, unlike the rest of us) was saying we were going part-time, when everyone at the club was saying we werent, so are we as a club considering part-time football, and both Pat McDaid and Stephen kenny are talking rubbish to the press the last few months? saying we arent?

As for offering players contracts then not meeting those contracts
If we dont keep to those contracts we wont have a club, as ourselves,
Omagh and Colraine found out in the past, unlike rovers who were allowed
to pay a cent in the euro to clear there debt, the tax man / courts up north will just shut us down. Very very risky if we are offering contracts we dont think we can meet :-(

Didn't Coleraine do more or less the same as Rovers though?

he says it failed dueto lack of support from the majority of clubs but how would something that did not include the majority of clubs expect to get there support

The failure of any of the clubs to raise the issue at the recent FAI AGM - never mind push it - was probably the straw that broke the camels back.

Demonstrated to Delaney - and Platinum - that they had no stomach to fight for it.

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Originally Posted by gspain

On the contrary I think the "highlight everything negative we can about" domestic football campaign in the media has been cleverly orchestrated by Platinum 1.

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Back page of the Indo today tells you everything you need to know about the methods Drury is using to try and manipulate supporters across the country. We're well shot of this guy lads

I think Linfield & Glentorans silence during the whole process was enough for this to be dead before it got off the ground. The FAI let it pass over too which was a good thing.
Without the support of the FAI or the IFA this was never going to be a viable entity and as it turned out the clubs spearheading it didn't have the balls to go ahead with it either. When Arkaga realised this wasn't going to happen they sent Cork into examinership. It seems to me that the backers of Drogheda want out because it's not going to happen (the stadium issue may be cited but I think this is the sole reason).
P1 main problem was that it left too many clubs out of the circle. By taking the big 2 from the north their league would be gone. By P1 overlooking the remaining clubs here they really had an up hill battle to win over the FAI who are supposed to be their to fight for the little guy.

I don't believe that an AIPL is entirely dead and I actually do want this to happen but it will only happen on the terms of the FAI and IFA and not a sports agents company.

not to sure jinxy i think it will be off the rader for a long time as it is impossable to get two clubs to agree to anything never mind 22. i wonder will jr return to derry or has he burned that bridge

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Originally Posted by jebus

Back page of the Indo today tells you everything you need to know about the methods Drury is using to try and manipulate supporters across the country. We're well shot of this guy lads

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I've only read the article entitled "Dead in the Water" on the online version in which Drury doesn't say anything that could be construed or manipulative.

Is this the one you're referring to, or is there another article I missed?
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