Staunton Ireland Manager?

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10/01/2006, 1:26 PM
Den Perry

Klein, I agree. The vitriol to which I have been subjected as been very hurtful. I don't mind taking the abuse but when they start abusing my wife in the supermarket, its unacceptable
10/01/2006, 1:27 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by wallis

Its worth bearing in mind that as a footballing nation in transition we have to look towards the future. We are always going to be paying peanuts in relation to other management jobs so we arent going to be able to cherry pick the best. SS is someone that could be groomed and he could be there for many years (performances taken into account).

Secondly we have a chance (if the rumours are true) to appoint one of the most respected managers in the world to our staff. He must have seen practically every aspect of the game from the youth set ups at PSV, to the continental styles at Barca and in Portugal , right through to the premiership and the world cup. There isnt anything in football that Bobby Robson has not been involved with. The impact he could have not only at senior level but at the way our youth teams line up could be priceless in the long run. His contacts with clubs and players worldwide and his coaching methods mean that his worth to the future of Irish football far outweighs the pittance we would be paying him.

( I dream of a Euro 2008 qualifier at Croke. 70,000 fans and Bobby and Steve shaking Svens hand after a 2-0 victory over England ;) )

Totally agree.
10/01/2006, 1:29 PM
Stuttgart88

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Originally Posted by klein4

as usual when they dont have a leg to stand on the usual suspects are reduced to just abusing any poster who doesnt agree with them.

Not sure who you're referring to but I'm always happy to engage is reasoned debate with anyone whether I agree with him or not.
10/01/2006, 1:32 PM
klein4

I'm referring to to the I.Q one.
we are only one step away from hair pulling and wedgies.:rolleyes:
10/01/2006, 1:33 PM
Schlooooomp

If Venabless had been appointed to the manager's post it would have made it very hard for me to go to Landsdowne (though I still would). He is just after the money, I read somewhere yesterday that he was disappointed that the FAI never contacted him. I remember last year when Venables was asked about the job, he said that he would not apply but he was interested in the FAI contacting him. Arrogant b@stard, he is not in as much demand as he thinks he is..

As for Robson/Staunton combination, it smacks of desperation on the part of Delaney, he is using Robson as a face saving tactic, nobody can question Robson's experience as a coach at the top level. However, if he does not have any decision making powers, why are we employing him. The best way this can work out is if Robson is in charge for 2 years and groom Staunton to be his successor (I know that this has been mentiioned in previous posts, which I am in agreement with).

Anybody can turn around in 2 years time and refer us back to their posts about how they always knew this combination would be successful (if we are successsful) but the point at this stage is that Steve Staunton does not have the required experience to manage the senior Irish team.
10/01/2006, 1:35 PM
Peadar

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Originally Posted by wallis

( I dream of a Euro 2008 qualifier at Croke. 70,000 fans and Bobby and Steve shaking Svens hand after a 2-0 victory over England ;) )

You don't half talk some rubbish, wallis!

There's not a hope in hell that Sven will still have a job after the summer. :D
10/01/2006, 1:39 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by Schlooooomp

If Venabless had been appointed to the manager's post it would have made it very hard for me to go to Landsdowne (though I still would). He is just after the money, I read somewhere yesterday that he was disappointed that the FAI never contacted him. I remember last year when Venables was asked about the job, he said that he would not apply but he was interested in the FAI contacting him. Arrogant b@stard, he is not in as much demand as he thinks he is..

As for Robson/Staunton combination, it smacks of desperation on the part of Delaney, he is using Robson as a face saving tactic, nobody can question Robson's experience as a coach at the top level. However, if he does not have any decision making powers, why are we employing him. The best way this can work out is if Robson is in charge for 2 years and groom Staunton to be his successor (I know that this has been mentiioned in previous posts, which I am in agreement with).

Anybody can turn around in 2 years time and refer us back to their posts about how they always knew this combination would be successful (if we are successsful) but the point at this stage is that Steve Staunton does not have the required experience to manage the senior Irish team.

Don't believe the papers. I reckon it's Robson as manager with Staunton as assistant. I can't see Robson taking a junior role.
10/01/2006, 1:39 PM
Den Perry

Do any of you think that this could be a red herring?
10/01/2006, 1:40 PM
ranting rover

No-one here knows for sure what the combo is. All we know is that Staunton seems a cert and Robson is more than likely. But we don't know in what capacity. Only a rumour mill. And the press coverage reflects what we 'know'. so:

Staunton/Robson
Robson/Staunton

Who knows? I don't. The Press don't. No-one here does. So until someone in a position to do so categorically announces the relationship everyone should hold judgement and stop spouting rubbish.

AND, I'd imagine that Robson will not be an 'assistant', his role is that of 'mentor'. The distinction is very important.
10/01/2006, 1:41 PM
gufct

Just makes you wonder why they sacked Kerr

I have great time for Stan and wish him well but it just goes to show what an egotistical man JD is.All the spouting about scouring the world for the right man etc. seems very hollow now.

The press have been lead a merry dance and yesterday shows the FAI is still leaking like a sieve.
10/01/2006, 1:44 PM
Hither green

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Originally Posted by klein4

I'm referring to to the I.Q one.
we are only one step away from hair pulling and wedgies.:rolleyes:

Yes but they're really difficult on the internet. We clearly need to expand the Smilies.

What about Mick and Jack? Who's going to protect their honour? :)
10/01/2006, 1:44 PM
klein4

are you not contradicting yourself in your own post there?
saying nobody knows what the combination will be and then saying robson will deffo be the mentor.
10/01/2006, 1:46 PM
colster

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Originally Posted by gufct

I have great time for Stan and wish him well but it just goes to show what an egotistical man JD is.All the spouting about scouring the world for the right man etc. seems very hollow now.

The press have been lead a merry dance and yesterday shows the FAI is still leaking like a sieve.

Maybe the leak if any came from the Staunton side.
10/01/2006, 1:52 PM
lopez

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Originally Posted by Macy

Think you're wrong really - the Irish press slated Kerr because he didn't have English experience. They wanted a big name rent-a-quote Brit so they could relive the glory days. This appointment is all about the cheap option, and not having the balls to wait for someone decent to become available.

Not privvy to the Irish tabloids here in Andalucia so I'll take your word on that. However it was clear that Kerr was a favourite last time ahead of some better qualified in the Premiership stakes and with regards to Mick. Same when Jack took over. As for waiting, well that's like shooting at Mars. Euro 08 kicks off in less than 9 months time.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

So what?

I think Perry's on about Snowflake's ability to count the money, not just earn it.
10/01/2006, 1:53 PM
Den Perry

yES HE SHOULD BE SACKED FOR LEAKING.....LIKE HIS DEFENCE WILL BE SOON ENOUGH
10/01/2006, 1:53 PM
Hither green

The rumours are describing Robson as some sort of consultant to the FAI - which would be a strange @rse about face way of doing things. If he's some sort of director of football (an Irish Howard Wilkinson - God forbid) shouldn't he have been involved in Staunton's appointment?
10/01/2006, 1:53 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by ranting rover

AND, I'd imagine that Robson will not be an 'assistant', his role is that of 'mentor'. The distinction is very important.

True. Think it's being overlooked though. Stan may be number 1, but that doesn't necessarily mean Robson is no 2.
10/01/2006, 1:54 PM
NeilMcD

I think this is a huge gamble as we dont know how good Staunton will be as a manager. But it could work but its like the guy going into Paddy Power at the start of the season and betting on Alonso Scoring from his own half. Surely the appointment of an international manager should be more based on Science rather than luck. However Maybe we need a lucky general after Brian Kerr. I will be in full support of the Irish team, which I would have found hard to do under Verry Tenables. But I would not say I am overjoyed by the appointment. But silly comments bout where Staunton is from, his accent, the tone of his voice, his relationship with Roy Keane, or Bobby Robsons, age or mixing up players names, are silly comments which contribute little to intelligent debate.
10/01/2006, 1:54 PM
pineapple stu

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Originally Posted by Hither green

If he's some sort of director of football (an Irish Howard Wilkinson - God forbid) shouldn't he have been involved in Staunton's appointment?

I assume it's hardly a surprise to him though. If he doesn't rate Staunton, he doesn't have to take the job. But it appears he is, so he must be happy doing so.
10/01/2006, 1:58 PM
pete

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Originally Posted by Den Perry

yES HE SHOULD BE SACKED FOR LEAKING.....LIKE HIS DEFENCE WILL BE SOON ENOUGH

I agree. Delaney has failed with Plan A (Martin O'Neill) & no Plan B.

Appointing someone with no management & basic coaching experience is pathetic.

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