A 7-team league First Division Next Year

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Originally Posted by A face

Look, its the FAI trying to get out of a shambolic situation by having new teams enter the league so it doesn't look like an absolute farce of a league. So that needs new teams who either apply themselves or there is an invite communicated to all the existing Premier Div clubs outlining that there is a new option available to them, a reserve team in the first div. This communication was never made. Its not an option (after the horse has bolted) to refer to the standard club application deadline and say 'oh well, because you didn't think of the idea of fielding a reserve team (something that was scraped something like ten years ago), and the fact that you've missed the deadline anyway, then its your problem." ..... That is comedy sketch stuff, gift grub/apres match kind of material. Its beyond ridiculous if we're expected to leave this fly for something that is going to resolve the problems within the league. It actually doesn't matter which way it falls now, its already been mismanaged, and the credibility and belief in the management team just went out the window after it.

Tin pot league, tin pot management and everyone just has to put up with it. We hear stories of mismanaged clubs and leagues from far off lands on 'Off the Ball' and you say to yourself "at least we're not that bad", when in actual fact its practically the same except no one gets shot and no club has the money to pay for a huge league-winning bribe. And to just assume that teams cant afford to field a reserve team as a plausible get out clause for not communicating the options available is like something from the Monty Python reunion tour with two bald men fighting over a comb, and a big foot just lands on the two of team .... shouldn't clubs be at least asked that something has changed in the last year, in that clubs have the reserve team option, rather than trying to second guess what would work as a get out of jail for the FAI, laugh or cry stuff. They made a pigs ear of the first division but the 'fudged out to the max' solution we have for it we'll keep them in the dark and second guessing, that'll teach them for trying to sort us out !!!

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Are we absolutely sure about this?

In all sincerity can anyone name a club who would consider entering a second team in the first division?

Or are we all moaning about not being asked to a dance we are unavailable to attend in the first place??

I fear it is the latter.

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

In all sincerity can anyone name a club who would consider entering a second team in the first division?

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Cork City FC

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Originally Posted by A face

Cork City FC

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Sure don't you have Cobh - loaning players to another clubs is the exact same as keeping them in the club structures, having them available to the 1st team, being able to scrape your U19's to offset the cost of a B team...

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

Or are we all moaning about not being asked to a dance we are unavailable to attend in the first place??

I fear it is the latter.

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I think it's a crap idea for the first division. However, it is perfectly acceptable to be annoyed at another underhand move by the FAI. The process should've been open and transparent. The conditions and benefits of a B team should be open and transparent. The rules regarding player movements should be open and transparent and clear.

Some of ye are displaying Stockholm syndrome in giving the FAI a pass on this - so what if no other club isn't in a position to enter a B team (we won't know until they're fecking asked), the process is a major part of the problem.

1st division clubs should also have been consulted - 7 would've been a joke, 8 with 1 B team entered in this way isn't much better.

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

In all sincerity can anyone name a club who would consider entering a second team in the first division?

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The number of clubs interested would be likely to fluctuate significantly depending on the arrangements and criteria, in particular
* Movement of players between teams
* Suspension of licencing requirement for an U-19 team
* League Entry fee

Each of the above potentially would have an impact on the finances required. The smaller the cost the more the number of clubs who would be interested.

The main point still remains that the FAI should have stated the criteria in advance and invited applications from all clubs

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Originally Posted by galwayhoop

In all sincerity can anyone name a club who would consider entering a second team in the first division?

Or are we all moaning about not being asked to a dance we are unavailable to attend in the first place??

I fear it is the latter.

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Could have let Mervue and Salthill have another year in the first, both well managed clubs, without bending the knee to GUST/Galway FC
This reserve team idea is a joke, another FAIlure

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Could have let Mervue and Salthill have another year in the first, both well managed clubs, without bending the knee to GUST/Galway FC
This reserve team idea is a joke, another FAIlure

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Couldn't agree more.

My only issue with that would be that Mervue would probably have handed us our ar5es again.

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Originally Posted by A face

Cork City FC

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If by consider you mean have a quick chat about it and immediately rule it out due to cost, then sure.

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Could have let Mervue and Salthill have another year in the first, both well managed clubs, without bending the knee to GUST/Galway FC
This reserve team idea is a joke, another FAIlure

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The knee was not bent to GUST. They were ignored and continue to be.

Should this b team farce go ahead, how would it work. If players play for the b team does that mean they can't play for the rovers first team should there be some kind of injury crisis etc

We don't know how it works because we don't even know if it will happen at all.

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

Could have let Mervue and Salthill have another year in the first, both well managed clubs, without bending the knee to GUST/Galway FCThis reserve team idea is a joke, another FAIlure

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There was no knee bending at all as this is what they both wanted anyway. Mervue is a well managed club winning left right and centre across junior and juvenile levels (15 leagues/cups won last year) but the members didn't want to stay in the league and want the club to concentrate on there successful underage structure. Salthill on the other hand have fallen to the wayside with only the womens teams with any kind of success. There main team outside of LOI, the mens junior team were relegated last season, mainly due to the lack of players (for one match they had only 9 players available, with 3 reserve keepers playing outfield rolls).

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Originally Posted by Terry

There was no knee bending at all as this is what they both wanted anyway. Mervue is a well managed club winning left right and centre across junior and juvenile levels (15 leagues/cups won last year) but the members didn't want to stay in the league and want the club to concentrate on there successful underage structure. Salthill on the other hand have fallen to the wayside with only the womens teams with any kind of success. There main team outside of LOI, the mens junior team were relegated last season, mainly due to the lack of players (for one match they had only 9 players available, with 3 reserve keepers playing outfield rolls).

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But you got what you want? A Galway United team playing out of Terryland. I know both other teams wanted out, but we all knew that for a long time and so did the FAI. Jesus even a whole season to try and get some other team up to the challenge. If not then should have left it.

If a B team is being allowed to enter the first division, there should be more information from the FAI as to the criteria for any club to enter a B team. Though they do fudge, information on criteria is usually provided publicly via a press release or statement on their website.

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But you got what you want? A Galway United team playing out of Terryland. I know both other teams wanted out, but we all knew that for a long time and so did the FAI. Jesus even a whole season to try and get some other team up to the challenge. If not then should have left it.

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But your thinking about on the pitch, everything about football in Galway has always been about off field politics

how can people say that the b team idea is a joke?? in spain and germany b teams play in the division below the top tier or even the next league. youngsters who are not good enough for 1st team yet playing a real game of football every week with all the pressures of relegation and so forth. this is not the case in england and look at the difference in player production in those countries. if rovers or st pats or cork had a bteam in the loi 1st division it would be quality for their younger players to be playing waterford, galway, longford every week. wakey wakey people.

saw in paper today that Galway FC confirmed that they are interested in signin some of the Mervue Salthill squad from last season.

Don't know if its been asked/answered on here already. But just say Rovers B finish top. Will they go down as champions and get the trophy or will it go to second place? And would second place get the automatic promotion spot and 3rd and 4th get the playoffs?

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Originally Posted by ATFC-1887

Don't know if its been asked/answered on here already. But just say Rovers B finish top. Will they go down as champions and get the trophy or will it go to second place? And would second place get the automatic promotion spot and 3rd and 4th get the playoffs?

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None of us have a clue about any of this! We probably won't find out unless it actually happens either. The logical thing would be that they go down as champions but the promotion spot goes to the next team but this is the LOI.