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The clubs are the last thing on any ones mind here.A lot of clubs are hanging by a thread and it is the players on a sunday who have to fork out for this.
Refs are well paid and put up with a lot of stick but to go looking for a rise in these times is over the top.
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Originally Posted by Fairkop
From what i hear the refs arent lookin for a rise...they just want what every other ref in Ireland gets which is the FAI fee?
LDMC are the only branch in Ireland with a problem with this, but that does not come as a surprise
By the sounds of things they're looking for more than the fee - mileage and what not - and when clubs can't pay the trouble starts.
If the issue was that they wanted the FAI rate I'm sure clubs would be more than happy to pay that rather than 100euro +.
Yes the clubs elect the LDMC committee every year and there's a lot of crusty old men in there but what's the alternative?
The men put themselves forward and the clubs can only vote on what's put in front of them.
I'd always be suspicious of anyone whose ambition it is to be in charge of something year in and year out, regardless of how well or badly that thing performs.
The mileage mightn't even be a massive issue if it was the mileage from Jackman to the pitch rather than from the ref's house to the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treaty Gooner
Any news on a meeting between both parties
why would the mileage be from jackman to the pitch.
the refs are providing a service and there should be an agreed rate (in total) for the match fee. all ref's get the same and the distance they travel should be monitoered by the LDMC to try and ensure that all refs travel roughly the same distance.
Its a shame that games are off for this, but we need ref's otherwise there is no competitive game of ball !(ps I am not a ref , just somebody who had endured them for the past 20years of playing in the LDMC league)
The LDMC dont appoint refs to games it the referee assesor that does that. .
Because most jobs that pay mileage calculate it from the place of work to the destination rather than from the person's house. It's the LDMC's base and it's central. Anything else is rife for abuse. It's ridiculous somebody claiming mileage from Cork to ref a match in Cals, for instance. On the other hand if the ref has to travel to Ballylanders, they deserve to be reimbursed for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Two Feet Up
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Originally Posted by Edgey
My mates a ref and told me 60% of Limerick refs either live out in the sticks ,Tip,Clare and Cork....only a handful are from the city...so its not really fair on them lads if the milage is from Jackman Park.
If they packed it in the limerick league would be fecked forever cos very few city lads join up due to the grief they get
the reason they would pay from the place of work is because they are paid to be at their place of work. I would expect the fee paid to a ref is really to cover expenses and not have an expense fee on top. Otherwise they are semi professional ref's.Quote:
Originally Posted by Edgey
so a ref lives near coonagh and ref's a match in annacotty, surely the ref's fee (no mileage) covers this cost in excess or are these guys actually working !
Tune into live 95 fm tomorrow between 10 &11were Paul Neville of ldmc & Edna quaid of the referees will fill people in on what's going on...
Usually between 48 to 55 euro in the Desmond league.
Tis enuf to be getting cash in hand aswell, hope they don't attract the attention
Of the TAXMAN!!!!!
well did anybody lsten in ?? are all junior games still of tomorrowQuote:
Originally Posted by js79
They are off old git and could be off for another couple Weeks yet of this us not resolved quicklyQuote:
Originally Posted by old git
jesus sounds bad I take it both parties are trying to get it sorted asap... have clubs been advised games are off I know up to last nights some clubs did not know if games were going ahead :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by js79
Old git them clubs would want a change of secretary every club was informed wednesday
It was posted on Facebook the other night bout all the games been called off,Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
It's just been proven that you can't have soccer without refs.. It sickens me. We're gone as bad as the GAA. The only people getting paid and their holding Junior players to ransom. Doesn't matter what way you dress it up, saying it's the LDMC fault etc. It's not, it's entirely greed, power pushing and attention seeking by the referee society. It's a closed book, I've witnessed first hand some of the most blatantly poor refereeing performances over the past few years. There is no standards to refereeing in a Limerick. You do a weekend course and your on the books. No adjudicators, no disciplining if refs. Mistakes will happen but some of the arrogance shown by referees to cover their own incompetence is laughable to say the least. Remember this, you can't have soccer without refs but you more importantly can't have soccer without players coaches etc. Referees aren't the most important people crossing the white line, It's the players who do it for free.Quote:
Originally Posted by old git
Il finish with this, there is some good refs, excellent refs in fact,in limerick but they are in the minority.
Players not getting paid. Ha ha ha ha haQuote:
Originally Posted by booster 03
Take your head out of the clouds man.
The ref bashing continues from one site to another so is it any wonder that the Limerick League fails to attract the best potential people to do the job. Is Limerick unique or do other players/clubs in other leagues take a cheap shot at every hands turn at the referees individually or collectively?Why is our league short on refs if it is such a money spinner?