That's the way things should work.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I voted yes and explained it as best I could to those around me with the caveat that .if they still weren't sure that they should vote no.
It can always be ran again.
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That's the way things should work.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
I voted yes and explained it as best I could to those around me with the caveat that .if they still weren't sure that they should vote no.
It can always be ran again.
If in doubt vote no, but it was definitely a confused doubt for me, when I heard McDowell vehemently urging a no vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Well done to Michael D, I think he will do alright.
I trust he doesn't get involved in the role of "selling Ireland" and I look forward to his active presidency in promoting a citizenship based on equality, respect, solidarity and participation for Travellers.
It will be great to welcome our president back to Galway officially next friday in front of 5000 for the play off, i hope Roddy behaves
The whole Presidential fiasco was a wonderful media circus, it happily deflected attention from what should have been looked at with real scrutiny - the 2 amendments, more money leaked into banks and how Ireland stoically continues to pay debts while others get off quite a bit. In my opinion the media made such a mockery of it all (okay, the candidates didn't help) that many solid voters just couldn't be bothered. Most people had better things to do, but that doesn't explain it all. Good luck to the winner, there are far worse places to spend 7 restful years.
I appear to have missed all your posts on those subjects too, spud.
btw The money going to the banks and the greek deal has had plenty of coverage. Sure they had nothing else to talk about yesterday! And as a second btw, the commentary on it was incredibly simplistic - so even if it did have more coverage I'm not sure the general public is/was that informed.
Congratulations to the winner of the Irish Presidential elections..... Dungeon Master
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Nice :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Well, the luvvies got their man, especially after the implosion of David Norris, so we're set for 7 years of establishment nodding dog. I'm surprised at how much support Gallagher got in the end, even in transfers. And Labour get the extra seat in Dublin West to boot. We'll never learn.
I just find it incredibly annoying that these votes can't be done over a weekend, I know no matter when you have it, some people will miss out, but there must be an incredible amount of people (students) who simply can't get the time off to go back, yes I know about voting by post but you know people and being lazy, I enquired about it about a month ago but was told it was too late to change where you vote from. Bah humbug
Those students should've gotten off their asses and registered at their local address which would have enabled them to vote where they were in college.Quote:
Originally Posted by Acornvilla
No excuses.
You had until Monday October 3rd to register this time.
I hear you but praise the lord we didnt get the FF bag man Gallagher and the shame of all that. It is Ireland we are never going to change that much and what was the actual turnout - wasnt it just over 50% or am I wrong (which is not great really)Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
As for lazy students - thats bull Bonnie, having it on a thursday is a joke
This has to be a new low for this forum - writing off a 7 year term, the best part of weeks before he's even sworn in!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spudulika
Turnout is up on the last presidential election. Full time students are facilitated by a postal ballot, if they bother their holes to apply.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
All elections and referenda should be at weekends however I feel people would still manage to crib that they had a christening/match or something else to go to anyway that's another day's work.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Anyone who has to make an excuse not to vote is an idiot.
Can you explain to me why those students couldn't register at their term addresses? You know why, because they couldn't be arsed!
And as Macy said they had the option of a postal vote.
Just great to see a genuine LOI supporter become President. Michael D unlike a lot of politicians he attends up to 16/20 LOI games most seasons at Terryland and not just at election times either. He has a real technical understanding of the game from a football and fans point of view. Hopefully the League can benefit a bit from his stint in the Phoenix Park....
With you on Gallagher, it was clear all along he was a sleeper for FF, I just don't see the merit in having the Aras being a retirement home again (despite the LOI link). The turnout shows how demotivated/lazy the people are. Though I suppose at least we can't complain about electoral fraud.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Bonnie, there's no reason for the election not to be held on a Saturday as in many other countries. I always wondered if there was a particular reason for it to be on a weekday in Ireland.
Maybe they saw through the pointlessness of the thing, and decided not to bother. I wouldn't have if the Trinity Senator hadn't put his name on the paper, and I'm not a student.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Our real President was in Brussels the other day telling us all what we had to do to get ourselves out of our mess. Nobody voted for him, but his decisions have the power to change our lives. We did however elect a 70-year old to sit in a personal retirement home for 14 years, sign a few bits of Dail business, travel in royalty around the world representing himself, form/dissolve a Parliament, hand out a few seals of office, and collect a large cheque for the priviledge. He'll enjoy it though, the other candidates have jobs to do in their own worlds.
Good to see the Oireachtas Inquiry bill rejected, though the bill would only be effective so long as it didn't conflict with The Constitution for Europe document that the state signed up to in the last Referendum.
That's a pretty neat summation Mypost. I wonder if the Inquiry bill will return though, so that we do what we're told next time.
get off your high horse, I tried to, as did a few others I know, I didn't know the dates and inquired too late as I had assumed I would make it back (didn't realize it was on a Thursday until about 3 weeks before the election).Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
By then it literally was a choice of eating or voting so..
If the government wanted to have students voting, they could have held it next week: it's midterm break in colleges of further education and reading week in some ITs. And they wouldn't have had to close schools for a day either.
Glad the Inquiry referendum failed. We need the provision, but with safeguards. What Shatter was proposing was lax, dangerously so. If I was Kenny, I'd be watching closely to see whether he's up to the job. It's a high profile failure, especially considering his recent arrogance.
EG, do you think Enda didn't know about it, or that it wasn't deliberate. From what I read of it - I spent an hour reading through an abridged version and came away very worried - they could overrule courts and order searches and seizures without recourse to courts. There was also something (please correct me if I'm wrong) on prosecution without representation. I was being told how great it was by an FG staffer and that I should vote yes to it as it meant they could go after the bankers. But I just thought it a bit too Orwellian in concept. Which brings me back to Shatter and Kenny, did they draw it up or was it foisted on them?