There's a thread on it here
http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/09/04/...-east-belfast/
They may be reading too much into it all, Billy Hutchinson is after all, a well known Leeds supporter
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There's a thread on it here
http://sluggerotoole.com/2013/09/04/...-east-belfast/
They may be reading too much into it all, Billy Hutchinson is after all, a well known Leeds supporter
The irony, lost on the neanderthal dishing out the verbals, was that there was more "taigs" than "non taigs" playing for Linfield on the day.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Hopefully the culprit is charged and appropriately punished.
And if you thought we were bad...
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/24046259
Plus a slight case of 'oops'.
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-29577518.html
Another day, another eejit.
And if both sides became one, we would still have a sh#t team!
Probably, but at this stage there are far too many 'countries' in Europe and to tie into other threads, pre-qualifying becomes almost inevitable.
How do they manage that exactly; beat Russia one month and lose to Luxembourg the next? :bulgy:
See #5581...
;)
Jamie Bryson defends NI fans' singing of the 'Billy Boys' during the Luxembourg game: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/ne...-29577518.html
Just because something happens to be cultural or traditional shouldn't insulate it from potential criticism. Certain traditions can be very much sectarian. And what exactly is he referring to when he says the IFA "wipe[d] out the National Anthem from the Nations Cup Final showpiece"?Quote:
Bryson (23) confirmed that the Billy Boys, a song which originated in Glasgow and is infamous for the line “We're up to our necks in fenian blood, surrender or you die”, was sung at the match at Stade Josy Barthel.
Just over a thousand fans travelled to Luxembourg on Tuesday to see Northern Ireland trounced by 3-2 by the much less fancied side.
A spokeswoman for the Irish Football Association said the incident has not been brought to their attention.
“Nothing has been brought to the attention of the Irish FA by the match delegate,” she said.
“The Irish FA totally condemns any form of sectarianism.
“The Association has worked tirelessly in partnership with fans and key stakeholders to eradicate and challenge sectarianism and to create a family-friendly atmosphere at Northern Ireland games.”
Bryson defended the singing of the song at the match, claiming the Billy Boys is “no more sectarian than the Fields of Athenry”.
He said: “Firstly the definition of sectarianism has become somewhat blurred, it now seems to be merely anything Sinn Fein or the wider pan nationalist movement feel is not conducive to their goal of Irish unification.
“I would not concur with this viewpoint and would most certainly not view cultural and traditional songs as 'sectarian'.
“The Billy Boys is no more sectarian than the Fields Of Athenry.”
Bryson went on to add: “I will watch with interest at how the IFA deal with these malicious allegations.
“Their recent case history doesn't bode well.
“They had the audacity to wipe out the National Anthem from the Nations Cup Final showpiece and they also went to great lengths to distance themselves from me over my one-time role as a mascot.”
The Donaghadee man acted as the Northern Ireland’s team mascot once in November 2012, for its match against Azerbaijan.
He is currently out on bail after being charged with a number of offences relating the flag protests which followed a vote by Belfast City Council to fly the Union flag on a designated number of days each year.
He is subject to a number of bail conditions which include not attending flag protests.
Bryson has been charged with encouraging or assisting offences, and taking part in an unnotified public procession.
Who cares what he's referring to. Just a publicity seeking ****!Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
Did the IFA decide against having 'God Save the Queen' played before their fixture against Wales or something?
Why do you say that Danny?
are there a lot of dead bodies lying around?
What is the "Nations Cup Final showpiece" to which Bryson is referring and in what way did the IFA have the "audacity to wipe out the National Anthem" from it? Of course, the Nations Cup didn't have a final as it was based on a mini-league format, but I imagined he was speaking of NI's last fixture of the competition, which would have been against Wales.
Think it was the irish cup final Cliftonville V CruesadersQuote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
And leave Jamie alone - the guy just continues to give and give, thinking about standing at the European elections if LAD is to be believed - you couldnt make it up
Ah, I see. A mix of awful quoting and punctuation along with Bryson's peculiar usage of the word "nation" in the context had me thinking he was referring to the Carling Nations Cup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newryrep
Yes that is right he is referring to the Irish Cup final this year which featured Cliftonville against the Glens, think it was claimed on ILS that Bwyson is a Glentoran fan and attends the odd match maybe that is why he was so upset by it! It also didn't get played in 2009 when Cliftonville played Crusaders and it didn't get much of a mention at all.
He's a Grade A **** Fly.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fly
Hope he does put himself forward at a future election - he'll find out that he does not speak for "The Protestant People Of Ulster".
He's a wannabe nobody.
Ha, agreed NB. But as Nr says he is a 'gift'.
And beat you to that story, Danny...unusually!
Btw, do Cliftonville have a special dispensation avoid hearing the royal dirge if they make the IFA Cup Final?
If so, hope they make the Final every year...
I'm waiting on him coming out with the immortal - Sinn Fein/IFA ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Now that would be a turn-up...almost inspired!
:rolleyes:
Though even he's not that stupid, surely...
Oh, I think his stupidity knows no bounds AB - now claiming on Twitter that he did not say that "The Billy Boys" was sung at the ground on Tuesday, and that the media have an "agenda" against him. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
If you didn't laugh, you'd cry at his cringeworthy bollicks.
Hmm, strange chap.
There was that picture of him with the green harp/'Erin Go Bragh'? flag, in a Cork pub which don't think is 'Photoshopped' that seems to mean he's pretty insecure about his identity, or an attention-seeker, or :rolleyes: both...
http://i49.tinypic.com/28bvbzm.jpg
Nail on the head.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Indeed, in that BT article, Jamie does not admit that the Billy song was sung at the match in Luxembourg.
He does not confirm or deny that the song was sung by NI supporters. He states that the song is not sectarian etc etc.
You might need to re-read the first half of this article, albeit it is from The BT.
Why would I need to reread the first half?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Where is Bryson quoted as confirming or admitting that the BB was sung?
Presumably you are being obtuse for some reason? Read the first line...
You mean to state that the BT claims Bryson confirmed the song was sung in Luxembourg?Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Bryson denies he did, and I note that there is no quote from Bryson in the BT article to support their claim.
Therefore I state clearly and concisely, that there is no quote from Bryson in that BT article, where he admits that the BB song was sung in Luxembourg.
The article is a stitch-up, just because it's a stitch-up of a moron, doesn't make it any less of a stitch-up.
Except I didn't say he did. If you want to go down a pointless route of pedantry.
As for your other 'point', please read the second word of the second paragraph of the original article!
You are being as vague and slippery as Bryson :)Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
I didn't claim you said anything, I asked a question for clarification purposes.
Is that word (confirmed), a quote from Bryson or what the journalist plants?Quote:
As for your other 'point', please read the second word of the second paragraph of the original article!
If it's the former, then it should be in quotes.
If it's the latter, then it's not a quote, is it?
Bryson is not quoted as confirming anything. An article needs direct quotes to back up an accusation of what a person is suppose to have said.
Ok, but you're in a minority of one with such semantics...
It's implied as is the case with lots of media. So what?
Always have to laugh when people claims the Billy Boys is no more sectarian than the Fields of Athenry - there is a special form of dementedness involved there. If they wanted to pick an Irish song that could be considered sectarian, they could always go with Amhran na bhFiann, although I suppose that would first require them to acknowledge that it exists.
Semantics my árse,Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
as if 'semantics' explains being able to discriminate the difference between a junk journalist and one who respects the minimum standard of reporting about what a person has actually said re a controversial event.
Ah I see, if Ardeebhoy is satisfied with the accuracy of an Indo news journalist's implication, therefore it must be true, because lots of other media do it. ;)Quote:
It's implied as is the case with lots of media. So what?
And when the implication is denied by Bryson, you take issue with somebody who points out that Bryson is not quoted in the article,
you say "so what" "it's implied", "lots of media (do it)":D
Yes, geysir you're bored. No-one bar you is interested in such pettiness. Even when it's the Indo, any easy target.
Get over it...
:)
Hard to tell from the article really. They may have asked him if the song was sung and he said 'yes' - hard (but not impossible) to quote him directly in that case. If he's been misrepresented then I'm sure wee Jamie will clear things up in due course.
It is reported that he confirmed it was sung.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
He either confirmed it was sung or he has a case for defamation of character.Quote:
Bryson (23) confirmed that the Billy Boys ... was sung at the match at Stade Josy Barthel.
Ha ha.
Its very simple, Bryson denies he confirmed it, and the BT does not carry any quotes where he admits he confirmed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DannyInvincible
I don't know how such journalism defames Bryson, imho it doesn't, at most the BT just has to correct a detail.
The laugh of a fool.Quote:
Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy
Do you have a source for Bryson denying it? Not that I disbelieve you, just interested. Severe breach of ethics if so.
Ha ha. Except it's the truth. According to the august BT.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Look forward to you being a 'character witness' for the 'noble' Bryson...
:rolleyes:
Bryson tweeted the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Quote:
I tell BT there was no sectarian songs. They print headline saying there was sectarian songs. Agenda?
Quote:
BT headline deliberately misleading. Billy Boys never sung at game and in fact I said no contentious songs were sung in the ground.
He does appear to imply it was sung outside the ground though.Quote:
I did not hear that song sung in stadium no.
Quote:
What people do amongst their own community outside the ground is their business. Only songs in ground were supporting team
Quote:
Yes I said that any songs sung outside the ground were ppls own business. And said I didn't view songs as sectarian