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Originally Posted by Diggs246
I like Keith Andrews.
I can't remember if there was something specific that a lot of posters here don't like about him, or if it is simply down to being associated with the Kenny era.
I hope he does well.
I don't think it's a personal issue at all. I'm sure he's a decent man. But he was Kenny's right hand man throughout his disastrous time in charge of the Ireland senior team and seemed incapable of offering anything to change things for the better. So it's understandable that Irish football supporters are sceptical of his abilities.
His hair. And he kind of looks a bit like a woman in some photos. That’s all for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
I don't think anyone here actively wants him to fail, but with his lack of experience in a pretty unforgiving environment, it's more likely than not that he won't be a success
Its good to see an Irish manager getting a shot at the Premier league but it must be a bit of a sickener for the likes of Kenny and Bradser that the guy probably the least qualified of the 3 of them gets a shot at it and the big bucks
That being said he obviously impressed Brentford with the work he was doing for them as they wouldnt have been short of candidates.
Kenny's failures with Dunfermline and Ireland pretty much ensure that he will never be a serious candidate at that level. Not to mention his complete inability to deal with the media in any kind of coherent manner. Even Lincoln City weren't interested when he applied.Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Bradley's inability to go 10 minutes without stirring up trouble or picking a fight via the media will almost certainly be counting against him also. Plus there remains a sense that he's a "when Plan A fails try Plan A" kind of manager.
Phil Giles, who's in charge of recruitment (and no bulls1tter) said that when they originally took him on, it was in order to get him on the (general) coaching team somewhere, but they asked him to take charge of set pieces, since a vacancy had just arisen due to the previous incumbent leaving (for Arsenal?).Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
Meaning they were observing his overall work and impact, not just in his specialist role. Though as it happens, he did brilliantly at that, since BFC's nett Set Piece success rate (i.e. goals scored minus goals conceded) was top of the PL by some way. And it may have been KA who identified the kick-off as a "set-piece", with BFC scoring in three successive games within the first minute, before opponents got wise to it.
While more generally, the club always recruits to their coaching team individuals who might one day graduate to the top job. On which point, it is very possible that Justin Cochrane would have got the Bees gig ahead of KA, had Frank not taken him with him to Spurs. JC is another one who has never held the Head Coach job at any club, while having a much less distinguished playing career than KA: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justin_Cochrane
I think around the Greek games where he was naive in press conferences and Poyet basically laughed at him, did a lot to damage his reputation in my eyes anyway. He was never a genuine contender when the Irish Manager saga was on going because of it I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
At the same time he walked straight into a Premiership gig after Ireland and has been consistently employed since. There might be a bit of Martinez about him, in that hes good at managing upwards. I hope hes brilliant at Brentford, especially considering the Irish players there.
Poyet is managing Jeonbuh Hyundai Motors now, while Andrews is managing in the premier league. One for Andrews to include in his golden clerics award speech.Quote:
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Really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
I wish him nothing but success but I’m wondering how you knew my nameQuote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
i'm not sure. made the connection years ago. i think maybe there was a link on the bio to bandcamp or something was posted at some point. liked the musician before i ever knew anything of the forumQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
Really!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kingdom
Wish him the best. He's kind of had a career of coming out of nowhere to suddenly being at the top so there must be something that we don't see as much. I've a feeling they're going to start the season strong. Will be very curious to see how he handles things when the inevitable bad spell kicks off
Well, Eamonn Andrews did very well in the UK.
Any relation, I wonder ?
From May 2012 :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
I didn't say anything about him being a good manager.
He was our best player at Euro 2012 and probably a bit underrated for us as he was involved in some dreadful displays.
But he was solid.
Him and Whelan in Paris absolutely bossed it.
As a pundit, he comes across as a total shaper. That coupled with the clothes range is just a bit….unusual for Irish people I suppose. It’s a bit McGregor I suppose. Or maybe Paul Galvin. We’re not used to it. But as I said, best of luck to him. I hope he succeeds
Opening fixtures:Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
Forest (A)
Villa (H)
Sunderland (A)
Chelsea (H)
Fulham (A)
Man U (H)
Man City (H)
WHU (A)
L'pool (H)
So not too hard to start off, before it gets noticeably harder?
A handy 27 points going there anyways.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Getting 9 points from those games would be an excellent return. You'd expect to beat Sunderland. Draws away to Fulham and West Ham would be good results. The rest are European sides (and Man Utd who should be a lot better next season)Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Thanks Fixer, you sparked a memory there with the Paris comment. It was Andrews who sparked off against Diarra towards the end of the first leg when the French were starting to go all Frenchy and arrogant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
And his missus I'm pretty sure is the designer (she was charged with the Euro 2012 squad outfits) - the comparison with Galvin is a god one.
This - Brentford are a very well run club and they tend to make good choices. Appointing Andrews is a risk and survival in the PL this season would be a good result for them and him. Surrounding himself with good coaches will help and he has started with getting that U-21 coach from Arsenal who has a good reputation and O'Connor has a developing reputation as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
I hope it works out well for Andrews (and the Irish players at Brentford).
Wissa left the Brentford pre-season camp... they really do seem to be in trouble this year... didnt know if it would be more depressing to put it in here or in Kellehers thread...
Nothing on show today to alleviate the fears held by Irish fans about this appointment. It's just one game but their fixture list for the next while looks awful - away to the teams they may fancy themselves to beat while the home games look very difficult.
Brentford were poor and seem to be in trouble - they have lost some big players and haven't replaced them. West Ham are another team in trouble - a soft underbelly like all Potter teams - never thought he was anything other than a spoofer.
Brentford were constantly getting pinned in. What possession they had in the first half consisted of slow, lateral balls across the back line as they were incapable of moving through the lines. Where have we seen that before …
Early days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
They were missing midfielder Damsgaard, their POTY last season. Thiago (£30m striker signed from Cercle Bruges last summer) is back from a year out injured, while Rico Henry (super LB, with England potential at one stage) back after 2 years out injured, so both will take a few games to get up to speed. While Jordan Henderson wassn't quite fit enough to start (that'll come), and Dango Ouattara, new £42m signing from Bournemouth, will also be ready soon, possibly next match.
On top of that, they have a number of young players - eg Carvalho, Yarmolek, Kayode - who probably aren't yet ready to take a leading role at this level, but give them another six months and 20-odd games, and they should probably prove good enough.
Which is not to say that the club will pull all this off - it's a tough league and getting tougher all the time - but whatever happens, they won't panic. Remember, when Thomas Frank was appointed, his record in his first 10 games was W1, D1, L8.
Not a huge Andrews fan but….its one game! Give him a chance
A good three points at home for him today, Collins playing very well by all accounts.
Collins and Sepp Van Der Berg look like a really good partnership.
Kelleher didn’t have a lot to do but had 2 or 3 excellent moments. There was one where he came out and pounced on the ball really well, he was so fast reacting. One good save in the first half with his feet too. His distribution was really good.
Brentford should have had a second, it was ruled out for a very questionable foul on the keeper.
Kelleher rated player of the match according to BBC report.
Collins was better imo.
Definitely. For all their possession, Kelleher didn’t have much to do. His distribution was excellent. Collins was class.
No harm to Kelleher, who was good, but the defence shielded him so well I can't see how that they reached that conclusion.Quote:
Originally Posted by third policeman
Indeed, as was the entire defence - very comfortable on the back foot and defending deep, according to plan.Quote:
Originally Posted by the 12 th man
However I'd give it to Damsgaard, a truly wonderful display, all over the pitch. You can see why many Danes see him as a successor to Eriksen for his creativity.
A good win for Brentford. Really hoping they can do well this season. We haven't got many Irish managers at any level nevermind at the top levels. So it will be great to see Andrews do well. Added bonus that it also means Kelleher and Collins doing well.