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We are all peculiar, we post on line about LOI.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
But
"its not that bad you know"
1,072 at the RSC for Waterford v Athlone, numbers dropping off big time now.
Any update on the club and league averages now we're a third of the way through the season ? (Nigel ?)
Not that bad a crowd IMO. Given it's a daytime kick off on a Bank Holiday Monday, and the fact that Athlone aren't a big draw and don't bring many fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by SPXcyan
Usually I would see no reason to doubt an official figure announced, but for whatever reason it just seems to be lower than actual these last few games. I really think there was just over 3k at the Drogs game, now its only 200 or so out, but I don't know why it seems to be out, can't be that difficult to get an accurate figure counted, zap ST and count up sales on the night.Quote:
Originally Posted by ToberonaTornado
2,805 in Edp looked bigger. Great to see all juvenile boys and girls teams there.
Fair few official figures missing again past few weeks if anyone can help. Have estimates in place for now.
UCD v Drogheda - 15th Apr
Bohs v Harps - 15th Apr
Shels v Bohs - 18th Apr
Drogs v Derry - 18th Apr
Pats v Harps - 22nd Apr
Sligo v Drogs - 23rd Apr
Bohs v UCD - 29th Apr
Pats v Derry - 29th Apr
Athlone v Treaty - 15th Apr
Wexford v Cobh - 15th Apr
Bray v Longford - 18th Apr
Cobh v Athlone - 18th Apr
Treaty v Wexford - 18th apr
Galway v Bray - 22nd Apr
Longford v Treaty - 23rd Apr
Athlone v Wexford - 29th Apr
Treaty v Galway - 29th Apr
Bray v Cobh - 29th Apr
Wexford v Bray - 2nd May
PREMIER DIVISION
Bohs - 3,265 (2,878 {2019}; 2,148; 2,006; 1,627; 1,724; 1,395; 1,597; 1,496; 1,488)
Derry - 3,362 (2,878; 2,297; 1,517; 1,563; 1,124; 1,106; 1,446; 1,460; 2,135)
Drogheda - 1,577 (928 FD; 377 FD; 850; 583 FD; 813; 1,064; 817; 977; 811)
Dundalk - 2,808 (2,775; 2,738; 2,674; 2,738; 3,158; 2,534; 1,997; 949; 1,355)
Harps - 1,775 (1,153; 708 FD; 1,202; 1,216; 784 FD; 449 FD; 479 FD; 429 FD; 433 FD; 644 FD)
Pat's - 3,582 (1,887; 1,621; 1,504; 1,088; 1,321; 1,386; 1,687; 1,474; 1,346)
Rovers - 5,705 (3,445; 2,749; 2,809; 2,041; 2,890; 2,269; 2,763; 3,127; 3,779)
Shels - 3,402 (1,075 FD; 654 FD; 496 FD; 554 FD; 596 FD; 713 FD; 1,114; 1,187; 781 FD)
Sligo - 2,491 (1,995; 1,853; 1,717; 1,750; 1,750; 1,959; 2,342; 3,007; 2,103)
UCD - 888 (735; 365 FD; 236 FD; 297 FD; 216 FD; 397; 487; 506; 558; 610)
FIRST DIVISION
Athlone - 232 (369; 130; 154; 156; 314; 653 PD; 754; 271; 200)
Bray - 761 (798; 643 PD; 966 PD; 957 PD; 769 PD; 718 PD; 891 PD; 965 PD; 1,121 PD)
Cobh - 1,335 (280; 236; 358; 403; 366; 223; 439; 2008 - 1,122 PD; 681)
Cork - 3,301 (2,505 PD; 4,245 PD; 4,559 PD; 2,533 PD; 3,263 PD; 3,777 PD; 1,965 PD; 2,786 PD; 2,128)
Galway - 1,961 (795; 746; 1,376 PD; 1,169 PD; 1,290 PD; 975)
Longford - 483 (611; 449; 342; 488 PD; 803 PD; 567; 379; 365; 315)
Treaty - 753 (Not Limerick FC)
Waterford - 1,635 (1,597 PD; 2,329 PD; 1,550; 314; 460; 470; 478; 453; 466)
Wexford - 440 (235; 181; 338; 585 PD; 553; 331; 227; 302; 216)
PREMIER AVERAGE: 2,878 (2,185; 2,170; 1,902; 1,476; 1,681; 1,502; 1,566; 1,630; 1,547)
FIRST DIVISION AVERAGE: 1,244 (586; 413; 477; 476; 486; 495; 391; 372; 578)
OVERALL AVERAGE: 2,129 (1,500; 1,249; 1,387; 1,117; 1,249; 1,160; 1,140; 1,125; 1,110)
OVERALL PREMIER ATTENDANCE: 187,054 (393,238; 316,515; 376,627; 292,204; 332,805; 297,334)
OVERALL FIRST ATTENDANCE: 68,393 (79,115; 55,756; 53,461; 52,807; 54,474; 55,408)
OVERALL COMBINED ATTENDANCE: 255,447 (472,353; 372,271; 430,088; 345,011; 387,279; 352,742)
Haven't seen official for either, but what estimate did you use?Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
I saw Bohs v UCD down as 2500 on extratime, but that can't be right. There was 2500 in the Jodi, and then the Des Kelly was fairly full as well. So that's closer to 3500
Drogheda game was maybe stand half-full again, so 600-700 as an estimate.
Yeah, the Bohs v UCD one is almost certainly wrong. I have the 2,500 figure used for now from Extratime, as it's all I could find. Bohs figures should be straightforward got though.
Had UCD v Drogheda down as 400, given the previous official figure for Derry was 473 and looked a similar crowd on stream highlights. Can amend that to 650 for now sure, split your estimate down the middle.
400/600 not a huge difference anyway. Caveat with my estimates is I can't see the full stand but you can on highlights. Would have had it as more than Derry though; there was a decent away support for a start!
2,800 at Pats Harps as per the Pats twitter account after the gameQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
So the First Division is only a few weekends away from having a higher attendance so-far this year than all of last year combined ? That's excellent.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
That's 2019 figures as well, for clarity, seeing as there wasn't a full capacity for the past two seasons I didn't record those attendances.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
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Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Whats really positive is while the total is obviously inflated by Cork City, even if you exclude all Cork City games, both home and away the average is still way higher than previous years. It comes out at 36.2k over 42 games for an average of 863. Youd have to be happy to see the sort of numbers we're seeing in Cork, Galway and Waterford. Even Cobh without the Cork Derby are at 800+ which is a huge increase on recent years.
On the flip side, really poor crowds in Limerick. They didn't bring much of a crowd to the Cross yesterday, would have thought the 5pm kickoff would have suited them.
Cabo are gone and not replaced too. Would increase the average but means total attendances are ahead while one small club down.
Two small clubs down in fairness, since your boys got promoted :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Remember you're comparing to 2019 EYG.
We were Premier then too :)
Good clarification :) And at least you didn't dispute UCD's diminutive stature :pQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
2,125 for Drogs gameQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Treaty V Galway was 743.
Galway v Bray was 1307Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Had that estimated as 1,300 so I'll call that a calculated guess. Thanks Terry.Quote:
Originally Posted by Terry
What's the figure that the away end in Drogheda officially holds does anyone know?
I'm not sure but with small number in their stand that side, and standing in between that and away end Dundalk have got close to or 1k tickets in recent games. The actual shed corner probably holds 700-800.
Rovers v Finn Harps - 4,687 official
Derry-Bohs - sold out (3.7k or whatever)
3,066 in Tallaght
Having been at the game it seemed like there were a few more than that at it, was surprised at the attendance being announced as so low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah
Looked about 3,300 at the Brandywell tonight v Pat's although possibly a bit more.
Did it sell out ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
I've just come across a site that has average attendances for each tier of English football - it's kind of interesting to see where LoI matches up...
https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/n...ue/attendances
This is the Conference/National League and there is a massive difference between the "haves" and "have nots"
Wrexham who are currently top on GD have the highest average attendance of over 8.5k while Stockport who look like they'll go up as Champions are next highest with just under 7k of an average. Traditional football league clubs, Notts County, Chesterfield, Grimsby and Southend are all in or around the 6k mark, of these only Southend haven't been pushing for playoffs.
There is then a massive drop from 6th placed Grimsby to 7th placed Woking in terms of attendances - Grimsby's is more than double that of Woking. There are then 13 clubs with an average between 2,600 and 1,400 with the remaining 4 clubs 3 of which are being relegated having crowds around the 1k mark.
The tier below that the average attendance in the National League North is about 1,200 - boosted by large attendance figures at York City and Kidderminster Harriers while NL South is just about 1k - Dulwich Hamlet pushing close to 3k despite being mid-table - aren't they that hipster club that make Bohs look fairly mainstream!
Going up the way League 2's average attendance is about 5k - Bradford maintain an incredible support despite being mid-table. Averaging over 15k per game and a lot of the clubs with the smallest averages are ones that have been promoted from non-league over the last 20 years or so, presumably on the back of wealthy owners - Salford City have the smallest average just over 2k, but clubs like Barrow, Stevenage, Sutton, Harrogate and Crawley all have below par averages while the Champions Forest Green Rovers had the 4th smallest average attendance at just over 2.5k
European-Football-Statistics.co.uk has similar data for all across Europe fwiw.
More tickets became available online yesterday afternoon, and don't think they sold out. If they didn't, that's the first game this season that hasn't sold out. Suppose it's a Monday night, so it's always going to be less popular, but if those spare tickets were released a day earlier, you'd imagine they would have sold out.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
The Non-League attendances are fairly understandable, and follow an obvious pattern where former League clubs get bigger crowds than those which haven't been at that level previously. Wrexham's crowds also having been inflated a lot recently due to celebrity owners. Dulwich being the exception as a hipster club, but that only began just over a decade ago, Before that they were getting very ordinary attendances. It does show what can be done to attract a crowd though if the positioning of a club is done right within the local community.Quote:
Originally Posted by JC_GUFC
Loads of people were looking for spares up to and including Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
I didn't know more went on sale online on Monday, I'm guessing it was because Pat's only had about 60 fans up (understandable on a Monday) and the rest then went on sale.
Derry city v Dundalk sold out within hrs of going on sale.
Less than a 1,000 tickets left for our match tomorrow - so hopefully another sell-out despite being live free to air on RTEQuote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
Its a real pity that new main stand was only half finished, a club like Derry always required more capacity than that. Great all the same to see sold out signs every week though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
Absolutely savage seeing these big games sell out mid season. In years gone by it'd only be big derby games or league deciders where this would be realistic.
Perfect game to have on tv. Hopefully we get some quality on the pitch to match the occasion.