Caoimhín Kelleher GK Brentford b.1998

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Originally Posted by mypost

Fantastic performance in a top of the table clash at the highest level of English club football. That still won't be good enough for Kenny, but that's not his fault.

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What does “good enough for Kenny” mean? I’m assuming to have him as starter for the MNT.

The question is not whether a singular performance is good enough for Kenny (Kenny gave Kelleher his Irish debut and has him as a clear second choice), more whether this performance in combination with other performances justifies dislodging Bazunu. As we all know Bazunu is currently in possession of the #1 jersey for us and has performed extremely well for country but also for club - a host of good performances, player and fan awards, call-outs in international media. From my perspective, Bazunu and Kelleher are relatively equal as goalkeeping options but possession is 9/10ths of the law and the 90 minutes each week for club counts in his favour too. The sum total of Kelleher’s season to date can’t reasonably and objectively outweigh the case for Bazunu to hold on to the starting spot right now. I think that’s a fairly reasonable take on Kelleher v Bazunu situation. As some have also said, there’s probably an equally reasonable case to be made for Travers ahead of both of them based on a combination of the same factors discussed here - club level, club playing time and performances - but let’s not overcomplicate the discussion…

The weird thing is I think the “anti-Kelleher” narrative that some are saying exists on here is almost completely non-existent. Almost every reasonable poster comments on how there are three excellent candidates for the Irish keepers jersey and how we are spoilt for choice.

For some posters to be claiming the existence of an some anti-Kelleher campaign is, to be completely honest, as embarrassing as anything I’ve seen on here in the last 15 years.

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Originally Posted by third policeman

Spot on. I’ve not heard a single report, comment or post anywhere suggesting that he was at fault for the second goal except here. I’m struggling to understand why some people can’t recognise that he is already shaping up to be an outstanding goalkeeper. And one who is ideally suited to the style of play that Kenny / Barry want us to play.

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don't think you could say it was his fault but Alisson *might* have closed the angle earlier and maybe had a chance to save it. he'd leave himself vulnerable to being lobbed that way. i honestly think if you put the 100 best keepers in the world in goal for that situation, 95+ times out of a hundred, it's a goal...

All of Salah, Alexander-Arnold, Konate, Van Dijk, Henderson played a minor role contributing to the goal. Trent is out of position, Salah doesn't win a 50-50 with Rudiger, Konate gets dragged out of position to cover Trent even though there's more danger in the middle, Van Dijk doesn't plug that gap left by Konate, Henderson gets drawn towards the ball and loses Pulisic and maybe Kelleher is a little too static. A chain of extremely small mistakes which lead to the next one and contribute to the goal

Kelleher's early save from Pulisic reminded me of David Marshall against Barcelona, at 2:28 here

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Originally Posted by liamoo11

I agree thought he did really well. Compare that to mendy who made things easy for mane by going to ground for liverpools first and was beaten at his near post by Sarah from an angle where going near post was always going to be the easiest for Salah. If kelleher had let those in there would be lots of giving out on here. Allison has made big errors in the 2021 calendar year against spurs, West ham , man City and Leicester leading to goals and droped points the likes of which if kelleher had made lads on here would be saying he was league of ireland standard

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Keepers who play games will make mistakes though. Unless Liverpool are leaving a flawless keeper on the bench for some unknown reason?

Kelleher was great. Can he do it over a season? What happens when he has a blip? Again, that's why some of us would prefer he was #1 elsewhere.

Hopefully he gets a run of games now. If he does and plays at that level then I'd have no issue with him going in for the next international game..although Bazunu has the jersey and may need to slip up first. It's a unique position obviously.

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Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish

Kelleher is like a boy scout he needs one or two years living in Greater Bs As living in Hurlingham, Wilde or William C. Morris to man up a bit. He needs to be a real scoundrel to advance there. Too nice fellow too soon. Chillavert Dassaev Kahn El Mono Burgos, Neuer would have killed pulisic in that one.

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It's like someone fed garbage to a text-generating AI.

Ah, sure he was grand , should be punching that ball out to the wings / out of play / perhaps out for a corner. He’ll probably get the hang of that kind of stuff after awhile.

Good spot. Reminds me too of a save I made against some team wearing green who played near Walkinstown in a cup match around 1996. I saved a pen that day too. We won 3-1. :)

Call him up SK!

Anybody who thinks Kelleher is getting a raw deal now would do well to read over the first page or two of this thread again. There were many, many sceptics.

Seems his luck is non-existent at the minute. Reports that Liverpool had to cancel their training session today, some reports that 14 players in the first team squad have had positive Covid-19 tests with all of their senior goalkeepers among that figure.

https://mobile.twitter.com/premierle...news%2F2439560

Made the premier league team of the week,nice little token of recognition…

Caoimhin Kelleher cameos show that Ireland is in safe hands
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/4...86c6c17a57ddae

Great article, as is the Neil O’Riordan article Rowan cites.

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

Seems his luck is non-existent at the minute. Reports that Liverpool had to cancel their training session today, some reports that 14 players in the first team squad have had positive Covid-19 tests with all of their senior goalkeepers among that figure.

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1st Leg v Arsenal now the 2nd Leg, so at least that has worked out okay for him - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59883780

I just said that he should have pressured pulisic. Manuel Neuer would eat up Pulisic' ears after stomp over him. I like kelleher footie and composed at feet but the lad is too nice. Grow a beard Kelleher at least you are a goalkeeper!

he has a beard? and what does that have to do with anything?

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

he has a beard? and what does that have to do with anything?

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Vikings generally had beards so, ya know !

Kelleher isn't a viking?

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Originally Posted by DeLorean

1st Leg v Arsenal now the 2nd Leg, so at least that has worked out okay for him - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/59883780

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Would Kelleher not be in isolation still next week.

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Kelleher isn't a viking?

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These days ya can be what ya wanna be.

Perhaps we could make the goals a lot bigger and give the the goalkeepers a giant racket ( safer than an axe for obvious reasons ) just to make soccer more interesting.

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Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish

Grow a beard Kelleher at least you are a goalkeeper!

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

he has a beard? and what does that have to do with anything?

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Originally Posted by seanfhear

Vikings generally had beards so, ya know !

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So... allowing for this thread driving me out of my viking mind, the consensus is .... Kelleher could be the best by a whisker?

If only the forum had enough traffic to support the old post of the month these days.

Eh?

This thread took a rather strange turn...

It's that bit of Argentinian fantasista magic.

They do say that Goalkeepers are Mad !

of course keepers must be a good old bully, grow a beard, dont wash before matches, dont clean your teeth, use rooten football gear, thats the way to do it, ask Chilavert who also had the foot of a fairy on his left peg for free kicks , but would bite your head off

the thing with this fellow is that he looks like the Brendan Gleeson kid, that is not very menacing at all, if he looks like father Brendan thats a goalkeeper then

It’s quite something that you are still allowed to post here! Felicidades!

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Originally Posted by SkStu

It’s quite something that you are still allowed to post here! Felicidades!

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hey I rate this Kelleher chap, and I actually had a classmate descendent of irish at secondary school with that Kelleher surname down west side greater buenos aires, so I am familiar with the name, I say old school in football is important, experience in football is important keepers must be nasty like that welsh Everton keeper and Seaman and others, even Schemeichel was a patagonian dogo!!!. Check this about experience and about respect experience , Conte has left out Romero, Doherty and Lo Celso and the team is playing muck.

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Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish

the thing with this fellow is that he looks like the Brendan Gleeson kid, that is not very menacing at all, if he looks like father Brendan thats a goalkeeper then

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Such admirable knowledge of the acting Gleeson clan for one from so far away.

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Originally Posted by EAFC_rdfl

Such admirable knowledge of the acting Gleeson clan for one from so far away.

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what i find admirable is that most of your irish worldwide known actors had a huge crush and lifelong romance with this game, the beutiful game!!! , this gleeson family, the liam neeson, gabriel byrne, matthew broderick, colin farrell who usually comes down here, the guy from star trek and the van they all wanted to be football players , and many more, dont know about pierce brosnam though....and the cillian murphy fellow doesnt strike as someone who plays football he is a bookish, dont know about peter otoole but richard harris was a rugby man who did a movie about a footballer !!!

we dont have that in Argentina from our so called "serious actors" only from our comedians

Is there a support group for people who've read this thread somewhere? I know I've played my part....I'm sorry for that. I just want out.

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Originally Posted by Bielsa´s irish

the thing with this fellow is that he looks like the Brendan Gleeson kid, that is not very menacing at all, if he looks like father Brendan thats a goalkeeper then

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Someone's taken Studs a little too literally...

Starts today against Shrewsbury. Not expecting a busy day for him, but it does mean that he's not absent through covid and should be in line to play Arsenal in midweek

Shay Given and John Hartson both of the opinion he should be knocking Klopps door down for a loan move. Strong defensive lineup from Liverpool but very inexperienced elsewhere so he might end up a bit busier than expected.

Not much he could do about the goal. Maybe a tiny bit flat footed if being hyper critical? But it was a good cross and finish. Cross came in too easily and it was the second time in a few minutes the same player was allowed to put in a great ball so full back maybe most at fault.

Bradley and Konate on the right side of the Liverpool defence look very vulnerable. Immediately after Bradley has the assist for the Liverpool equaliser Shrewsbury get another cross in from that side and it’s ruled out for a tight offside call. Wasn’t a lot Kelleher could have done again in fairness.

Unconvincing punch from a long throw and almost gets caught out with it coming back in, recovers quickly to make the save. Hasn’t really had a shot to save but Liverpool look very shaky defending crosses.

I don't know about the forum politics, but I can see Biesla's point. Don't get me wrong, he looks like a great prospect and it's brilliant to have an Irish player at a top club (like the old days) but it looks to me like Kelleher could do with being more aggressive/assertive. He could also tone down the acrobatics a bit and keep it simple. The level he is playing at, it's OK to subject him to criticism, especially if you want him to succeed in the long term, especially for Ireland.

Kelleher appears to have a beard on the go so he’s playing all the time from now on!