LoI in Europe 2018

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Originally Posted by oriel

For the Legia opening goal, Cherrie definitely was poor but I'd be more looking at the midfield, the Legia guy who crossed was almost walking with the ball, at one stage the closest person to him was the ref!

Morrissey was without doubt a big loss for Cork, he's a player I really rate, snapping at your heels and box to box, I'd go as far as saying he's their best player.

Looking forward to our game tomorrow, I don't for one minute think this is a forgone conclusion but I'd be very disappointed if we don't progress. Those boys played some decent stuff in the first half last week, Dundalk need to get the first goal.

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In recent seasons, Estonian teams have been performing poorly in Europe. Their league took a month sabbatical before the WC and hadn't resumed by the time european competition commenced. Their league leaders got well beaten by Stjarnan. Imo, Levadia looked just as poor. I suspect Dundalk were just too circumspect in the first half, sucked into the cautious mindset of the away first leg, once they realised Levadia weren't a whole pile, they pushed up in the 2nd half. Unfortunately they only scored one which gives Levadia some hope.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

There's a gif of the opener here (I might try embed it here as well)

The amount of space the midfielder has is quite incredible.

Edit - embedding not working. Anyone know how to do it?

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Are you embedding the gif as an image or as a video?

This is an embedded image, should work.



https://i.giphy.com/media/2vkOcHEHtr...ized-large.gif

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Originally Posted by micls

On last night. Great trip and what an incredible atmosphere to experience. Can only imagine what the place is like on a big night.

Caulfield got the tactics spot on last week, but we left it behind us not being clinical. Also that penalty! That was our chance.

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4 goals say you and Caulfield were wrong, eh:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by bennocelt

4 goals say you and Caulfield were wrong, eh:rolleyes:

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Eh, no? I said he got the tactics right last week. We conceded one goal to a wonder strike and created multiple chances which unfortunately we weren't clinical enough to finish.

Despite reservations beforehand, pretty much everyone at the game thought he got the tactics right last week, including media. Last night, not so much.

This may have been asked already so apologise if it has but can Cork get Legia again in the EL if Legia lose their next CL game or is there a rule stating you can't play the same opposition until a certain stage?

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

This may have been asked already so apologise if it has but can Cork get Legia again in the EL if Legia lose their next CL game or is there a rule stating you can't play the same opposition until a certain stage?

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There does not seem to be any rule, but they normally split the teams into pots so id imagine it would be easy for them to split them up to avoid a repeat pairing.

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Originally Posted by Real ale Madrid

There does not seem to be any rule, but they normally split the teams into pots so id imagine it would be easy for them to split them up to avoid a repeat pairing.

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It looks like there'll be 10 seeded and 10 unseeded so they might just do an open draw.

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

It looks like there'll be 10 seeded and 10 unseeded so they might just do an open draw.

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The draw is Monday though, so the seeded teams will still be in pairs. Will be quite awkward to avoid all possible match ups. For us, if they fix it so we can't get Legia, they equally have to take care that the team that lost to Legias opponents don't get them either. It's fairly complicated.

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Originally Posted by micls

The draw is Monday though, so the seeded teams will still be in pairs. Will be quite awkward to avoid all possible match ups. For us, if they fix it so we can't get Legia, they equally have to take care that the team that lost to Legias opponents don't get them either. It's fairly complicated.

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Yeah the 10 losers in the CL are automatically seeded regardless of coefficient and given the draw is done in advance I would think the possibility of drawing the team that knocked you out in a previous round very likely, hopefully won't happen to ye as it would be the height of bad luck but would be interesting to see your approach to the game if it happened again, surely Sadlier would feature more prominently.

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Originally Posted by ArFella

Yeah the 10 losers in the CL are automatically seeded regardless of coefficient and given the draw is done in advance I would think the possibility of drawing the team that knocked you out in a previous round very likely, hopefully won't happen to ye as it would be the height of bad luck but would be interesting to see your approach to the game if it happened again, surely Sadlier would feature more prominently.

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I think even if we drew that tie, it's very unlikely Legia would lose it tbh. I don't imagine it being an issue.

If it did happen, it'd be even a worse draw than the first time! We caught them on the hop a bit in Turners Cross, that wouldn't happen again. They'll have more game behind them world cup players back, new striker bedded in. We'd be fairly screwed I'd imagine. And we wouldn't even get a decent new trip somewhere out of it! Definitely the worst case scenario.

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Originally Posted by micls

We caught them on the hop a bit in Turners Cross, that wouldn't happen again. They'll have more game behind them world cup players back, new striker bedded in. We'd be fairly screwed I'd imagine. And we wouldn't even get a decent new trip somewhere out of it! Definitely the worst case scenario.

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For leagues that take a summer break the extra week of pre-season raining can bring on the continental team quite a bit. It was v noticeable last year when Cork played Genk last year how they were quite a bit sharper in the 2nd leg and Cork couldn't break them down.

I hope Rovers go either two up front Greene and Car or 5 across the back with Kavanagh and Boyle bombing on when possible.
We are up against it and they looked good when they committed men forward so I think we will need to score twice to go through....
Belgrade 2018 :)

Early start for the LoI today!

Derry 1-0 up in Minsk after 7 minutes. 2-1 down on aggregate now. Presumably a false dawn, but you never know! Minsk aren't great, as Pat's showed a couple of years back.

Derry get an away goal in Minsk after about 7 minutes - Ally Roy the scorer.

Oh my!

Oh my word!!! .... Cmon Derry! ... hopefully they don't go mad now ... settled and keep it tight - see can they nicked another!

Stream here: http://www.sportingvideo3.com/201807...6-1997658.html

Belarussian commentary

Great start, some excitement for the fans anyway!

Derry could be 3 up after 20 mins!!!!

Strong start, Derry playing well going by the radio commentary. Roy had another shot beaten away by the keeper.

Hugely impressive stuff from Derry.

After watching Cork on Tuesday, this restores my hope for the league.

Minsk equalise, scrappy goal from yet another set piece.

And, as usual, a LOI side gives away a sh1tty goal.

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Originally Posted by SwanVsDalton

Minsk equalise, scrappy goal from yet another set piece.

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Gutting to give those away. But in results terms, ye still needed 2 more. Fingers crossed another goal this half and make for an interesting second half.

1-1 awful goal to concede, sloppy play to give away a free, then defense nowhere.

Derry could have been 2 or 3 up, instead floppy defending and poor finishing has them at 1-1. Another LOI story of dopey defending.

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Originally Posted by White Horse

Hugely impressive stuff from Derry.

After watching Cork on Tuesday, this restores my hope for the league.

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Was thinking the exact same, but Cork played decent for 75 mins bar the usual crap of an individual stupid mistake costing them a goal. But cherrie played well 2nd half.

Dundalk the only only who can apply themselves, or the only ones the last few years anyway, 100% of of the time for the whole game.

There is no excuse for this other than perhaps lacking a bit of experience at European level, but most of the teams playing have that now with a few seasons in Europe.

The big one i used play on a few years ago was physicality and stamina, and i used get shot down. I was proven right, most of the teams now match that in Europe. But they lack that concentration for 100% of the the time to cut out those dozey mistakes.

The world cup, and Dundalk in previous seasons have shown that a well organised, concentrated team can compete against individual quality. There's no excuse anymore for LOI teams in Europe making these mistakes.

It's been pointed out by Dundalk fans, and I'd tend to agree. It's more down to mentality above anything.

Teams need to go out believing they can get a result, and management need to set them up in such a way that backs that up. Allowing no respect and getting into teams as if they would against Limerick or Bray is the only way you can progress with confidence through Europe. It's how Dundalk done it in their Europa run before and it's the only way teams will do it again.

These days I think it's more a case of mental exhaustion and lapses of concentration as opposed to any physical shortfall. Physically our teams should be as good as the european sides, and by and large they are. But in our domestic league guys probably learn bad habits and mentally get lazy because they're not severely punished whenever they switch off. Whereas in europe you usually cough up a goal-scoring opportunity for any slight lapse in concentration.

That's another thing that made Dundalk's run so impressive 2 tears ago. They really looked (and played) like they belonged.

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Originally Posted by Philosophizer

That's another thing that made Dundalk's run so impressive 2 tears ago. They really looked (and played) like they belonged.

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The trick is keeping the likes of Horgan / Towell et al that made those runs possible.

2-1 Derry - it's the hope that kills ya...

Jeez ....come on Derry!!!

Oh Derry! If you go out like this, it will be the home leg that will kill you.

10 mins to do it. Come on Derry.

Hard luck to Derry but a lot of pride restored in that effort. What could have been with a better result at home.

Tough luck on Derry - will be kicking themselves.

A timely co-efficient boost though.

Shiels giving it socks at the end to the officials - not sure what about.

Derry bow out, but at least they grab a coefficient point

That Dinamo side were there for the taking. Kenny Shiels had an awful go at the ref at the full time whistle. Very audible "diabolical" being screamed at the officials by him.

Hard luck Derry. Good win.

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Originally Posted by CuanaD

Derry bow out, but at least they grab a coefficient point

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Derry don't get any club coefficient points for the win, but they do win the league a point, to help keep us sliding towards the preliminary rounds.