Andy Reid(b 1982)

To be honest it was one of Reid's more ineffective games in a Sunderland shirt.

He doesn't have the mobility to be playing behind the front man, and I think he's been far more effective when allowed to sit and hold the midfield as a playmaker.

On the plus side, I was pleasantly surprised by Duff's play when he came on as a substitute. He looked faster than his first few games back, he must be doing some sprint training and regaining that pace.

He'll need to maintain that pace recovery if he's to touch his former level of play.

It's just not natural for Reid to play behind the striker any more. He looked much more comfortable when Richardson came on, taking the ball from defence and distributing it.

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Originally Posted by Ordinary Fan

Duff gave reid a bit of a kicking when he came, must reckon that his place is under threat.

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Reid chased Duff back too and Duff went down easy to win the freekick. As someone else said, if you're playing a match and you know 1 player off the opposition you'll tend to feel more of a duty to chase him. :)

ya exactly EB, just look at gaelic training and you'll always go in harder on those ye know, instead of those ye dont know!

Is the weight he is carrying genetic??
I think he has a superb left peg, but the weight.
Surely there is a diet or training regime that could make him look like a footballer.
I just can't see why any pro these days can be the shape he is.
It's holding him back in my opinion.
But he has great potential..

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Originally Posted by Pike B

It's holding him back in my opinion.

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I actually think it's helping him. I'd love Nakamura to have his physique so he could play central midfield. Reid is rarely pushed off the ball.

He's got great upper body strength which, as EB says, helps him hold off opponents. I think his defensive play is under rated too. He provides excellent cover just in front of the back four - he never allows space between the defence and midfield

Reid is the best player we have along with Dunne and Given. He may have an extra few pounds but he never stops running and his determination and attitude is second to none. He is an extremely intelligent ball player. IF he could stay fit he would be good enough for any of the top four imo.

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Originally Posted by FarBeag

Reid is the best player we have along with Dunne and Given. He may have an extra few pounds but he never stops running and his determination and attitude is second to none. He is an extremely intelligent ball player. IF he could stay fit he would be good enough for any of the top four imo.

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But why can't he shed the weight?? If Jan Molby had the dieticians and nutritionist's in his day, he'd have been even more incredible. But he didn't, that's his excuse. What's Reid's?? I am not trying to argue his quality, because he has it in spades, but it has to be addressed if he's ever to be taken serious.

To be honest after watching him play quite a bit since his move to Sunderland, I think it's just the frame of his body.

There's no way a fat, unfit man is going to run around constantly for 90 minutes and still be able to do what he does.

It's not as if he's falling apart in the final 30 minutes of a game, in fact he scored a beautiful 90 minute volley a couple of weeks ago.

I've got a friend who looks nothing like a soccer player with a similar frame. He can run forever but he looks like a ****ing balloon.

Reid is stocky and has a big rib cage. Contrary to popular belief, fitness trainers can't fix that.

But oh well, it's good for a laugh isn't it? Let's criticize one of our most talented players for a weight problem he doesn't have, and after every game, let's say, "a big performance by a big man."

HAHAH, get it? Isn't that funny?

What a joke.

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

But oh well, it's good for a laugh isn't it? Let's criticize one of our most talented players for a weight problem he doesn't have, and after every game, let's say, "a big performance by a big man."

HAHAH, get it? Isn't that funny?

What a joke.

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ha, well said. i agree the laffs are past their sell-by date.

I am not laughing. I hope your right, but doubt it.

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

To be honest after watching him play quite a bit since his move to Sunderland, I think it's just the frame of his body.

There's no way a fat, unfit man is going to run around constantly for 90 minutes and still be able to do what he does.

It's not as if he's falling apart in the final 30 minutes of a game, in fact he scored a beautiful 90 minute volley a couple of weeks ago.

I've got a friend who looks nothing like a soccer player with a similar frame. He can run forever but he looks like a ****ing balloon.

Reid is stocky and has a big rib cage. Contrary to popular belief, fitness trainers can't fix that.

But oh well, it's good for a laugh isn't it? Let's criticize one of our most talented players for a weight problem he doesn't have, and after every game, let's say, "a big performance by a big man."

HAHAH, get it? Isn't that funny?

What a joke.

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I agree. He's small, compact and stocky not fat, there's a difference. It would be unnatural imo for him to lose weight and the effort involved (dieting, more pure fitness training) would probably do him more harm than good on the football pitch due to the negative effect it would have on his upper body strength.

He'd end up like his teammate David Connolly. A slight breeze would knock him off the ball.

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Originally Posted by youngirish

I agree. He's small, compact and stocky not fat, there's a difference. It would be unnatural imo for him to lose weight and the effort involved (dieting, more pure fitness training) would probably do him more harm than good on the football pitch due to the negative effect it would have on his upper body strength.

He'd end up like his teammate David Connolly. A slight breeze would knock him off the ball.

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Is there no in between?? Surely with proper training he could be like Messi or Tevez. Small athletic, but tough as nails and hard to knock off the ball.

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

To be honest after watching him play quite a bit since his move to Sunderland, I think it's just the frame of his body.

There's no way a fat, unfit man is going to run around constantly for 90 minutes and still be able to do what he does.

It's not as if he's falling apart in the final 30 minutes of a game, in fact he scored a beautiful 90 minute volley a couple of weeks ago.

I've got a friend who looks nothing like a soccer player with a similar frame. He can run forever but he looks like a ****ing balloon.

Reid is stocky and has a big rib cage. Contrary to popular belief, fitness trainers can't fix that.
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I dunno.. I used to think that, but check out around his face as well. He has the chin bag and jowels...Plus he never takes his top off at the end of a game.... ever

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Originally Posted by dr_peepee

I dunno.. I used to think that, but check out around his face as well. He has the chin bag and jowels...Plus he never takes his top off at the end of a game.... ever

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Would you like if he did take his top off? Do you usualy look out for that sort of thing at the end of a match?:D

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I dunno.. I used to think that, but check out around his face as well. He has the chin bag and jowels...Plus he never takes his top off at the end of a game.... ever

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I saw photos of him swapping shirts after the 3-0 home win vs Cyprus, revealing very baggy and wobbly biceps!

He'll never be a waif but I'd love to see what Spurs' new ftness coach would make of him. Fat arse Robinson has shed loads of weight, Huddlestone & Robbie Keane too. I agree with Dr. PP, you can tell by looking at his face that there's weight to be lost. The average top flight footballer has minimal body fat these days, not unlike middle distance athletes, but with more strength. He's a class act despite this though and I'm sure his fitness is fine but I think with work could get better.

I've posted this before, but a few years ago Munster and Man United were sharing the Celtic Manor hotel in preparation for a match at the Millennium Stadium. Ronan O'Gara, a very fit bloke himself I'm sure, said he couldn't believe how slight the United players were. I stood next to Gilberto Silva of Arsenal a while back and he hadn't a pick on him, yet these guys have such impressive core strength that they're tough as nails (unless you're a cheating girls blouse like Didier Drogba).

Reid before injury last year:
http://www.goal.ie/fundraising/image...%20-%20use.JPG

Reid with a bit of extra weight:
http://img.skysports.com/07/11/218x2...eid_596512.jpg

Its all about Reid remaining injury free.

With Traps "Band Camp" only a matter of weeks away in Portugal - a few weeks break - and then into Sunderland's pre-season training - he should be in decent shape for September.

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

Its all about Reid remaining injury free.

With Traps "Band Camp" only a matter of weeks away in Portugal - a few weeks break - and then into Sunderland's pre-season training - he should be in decent shape for September.

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Ya like Bob Hoskins maybe:D

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

With Traps "Band Camp" only a matter of weeks away in Portugal - a few weeks break - and then into Sunderland's pre-season training - he should be in decent shape for September.

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Nothing to do with Reid but I literally cannot wait for this training camp and matches to begin. I haven't been this excited about our team since 2002.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

Nothing to do with Reid but I literally cannot wait for this training camp and matches to begin. I haven't been this excited about our team since 2002.

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Indeed. Interesting times ahead.

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Reid before injury last year:
http://www.goal.ie/fundraising/image...%20-%20use.JPG

Reid with a bit of extra weight:
http://img.skysports.com/07/11/218x2...eid_596512.jpg

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Reid must be standing on a box O'Shea is almost 6'4

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Originally Posted by danonion

Reid must be standing on a box O'Shea is almost 6'4

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That's why Reid looks so thin, his photo has been stretched.

I think he is standing on a step

Maybe O'Shea's on his knees instead. Ooh err missus.

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Originally Posted by youngirish

I agree. He's small, compact and stocky not fat, there's a difference. It would be unnatural imo for him to lose weight and the effort involved (dieting, more pure fitness training) would probably do him more harm than good on the football pitch due to the negative effect it would have on his upper body strength.

He'd end up like his teammate David Connolly. A slight breeze would knock him off the ball.

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Sorry, but I watched the Newcastle v Sunderalnd game and I can confirm that Andy is FAT at the moment!! I would guess he needs to loose 10 to 15 pounds to be near his best.

Reid out of Republic squad through injury - RTE Sport

The Republic of Ireland squad trained without the injured Andy Reid in Malahide this morning prior to their departure for a week long training camp in Portugal.

Manager Giovanni Trappatoni has revealed that midfielder Reid will not be travelling with the squad due to his injury.

Goalkeeper Colin Doyle is also a doubt with a knee problem and will be assessed by doctors before being declared fit to travel.

The squad depart for Portugal later this afternoon and Trappatoni is happy with what he has seen thus far.

'I met the squad and we had a good training session in Malahide,' he said yesterday.

'The players have had a little bit of time off and it was good to get them going again.

'I am very pleased with the application of the players and I explained to them that this period of time together will give me an opportunity to get to know the players and it will give them a chance to familiarise themselves with my methods.

'From this point of view it went very well.'

Not blaming Reid at all, as far as I know he at least turned up. But I just feel with the whole lot of withdfrawals and players in the wilderness (SI), this trip and brace of matches are nearly turning into as much of a farce as the US this time last year.

really poor show from some of the players. still, it will give the likes of garvan, whelan, foley and scannell a genuine chance to impress.

Andy Reid sets up Cisse with a 60 yard pass up forward. :)

Wonderful ball from Reidy, weighted to perfection.
How's your french
http://videos.sapo.pt/BQrvGkDFgjqFnLcNc5VH

watched the entire game, great vision from Reid for the goal and he put in some absolutely quality crosses. To be fair, there are far worse players playing for Sunderland in terms of attacking and defending. Whitehead was abysmal, Malbranque inneffective.

Reid did run out of steam though, was slow tracking back in the
2nd half and was substituted on 77mins i think.

I only watched highlights to be fair but everything Sunderland did seeme to go through Reid, outstanding ball for the first goal.

Should have had 2 assists, looks like Cisse still doesn't understand the offside rule

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watched the entire game, great vision from Reid for the goal and he put in some absolutely quality crosses. To be fair, there are far worse players playing for Sunderland in terms of attacking and defending. Whitehead was abysmal, Malbranque inneffective.

Reid did run out of steam though, was slow tracking back in the
2nd half and was substituted on 77mins i think.

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The absolute quality of his passing should be enough to guarantee him a start in any Irish 11 at the moment. It's not like we have a string of midfield talent!

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Originally Posted by joe_denilson

Wonderful ball from Reidy, weighted to perfection.
How's your french
http://videos.sapo.pt/BQrvGkDFgjqFnLcNc5VH

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mon pere est prof de francais et il....they said basically the stadium of light was full of applause for the goal, the technique of andy reid was perfect and that the marking was poor.

that was one of the best passes ever seen on a pitch it has to be, he came across the ball and swerved it into cisses path, however there was still a serious amount of work to do to finish it, poor defending but great piece of play and finishing by cisse.

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mon pere est prof de francais et il....they said basically the stadium of light was full of applause for the goal, the technique of andy reid was perfect and that the marking was poor.

that was one of the best passes ever seen on a pitch it has to be, he came across the ball and swerved it into cisses path, however there was still a serious amount of work to do to finish it, poor defending but great piece of play and finishing by cisse.

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Yes good pass, but if you think it was one of the best passes you have seen you need to get out a bit more. Andy Reid played well but he also made one very bad cross field ball where Sunderland lost procession and Portsmouth nearly punished them.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Yes good pass, but if you think it was one of the best passes you have seen you need to get out a bit more. Andy Reid played well but he also made one very bad cross field ball where Sunderland lost procession and Portsmouth nearly punished them.[/FONT][/COLOR]

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Yes saw that, pretty much played pompey through on goal. It looked a tired pass, so fitness could still be an issue. in fairness to the guy its not like he's had much games recently.

Reid was decent against Liverpool in first game of the season, reports say he played very well in the next game against Spurs, Sunderland get beaten 3-0 against City and Reid is dropped. Decent game against Arsenal in a 1-1 draw (Ronnie Whelan saying he should send a DVD of the game to Trap), dropped for the following game. By all accounts Sunderland's best player along with Cisse against Portsmouth, dropped for todays game.

Keane said this:

"Trapattoni might have a prototype of what players should be like or look like. If some players do not fall into that category, there is a good chance they will not be picked.

When you look at the players selected last time, even the ones ahead of Liam Miller, lads like Whelan had not been playing at Stoke, young Gibson at United, so Trapattoni obviously has his own ideas. If he sat down and off the record gave his reasons why he is not picking certain players I bet you'd think, yes, I can see why. Let's not play dumb here."


Actually happy Sunderland lost today. I really am very biased towards Reid. :D

Keane says he is astonished by the publicity the issue has attracted, and has told Reid to view his absence from the squad as a challenge.

'What's the big deal? It's the manager's choice, and the manager has got more experience than we will ever dream of. If he thinks Reidy is not in his plans at this moment in time, then that's a challenge to Reidy. That's all it is, it's a challenge to him', said Keane.