Im afraid you might have to move your boat a little futher up stream, near a bit around here i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. man
Id say they can charge at the gate and id imagine there will be a big crowd at it.
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Im afraid you might have to move your boat a little futher up stream, near a bit around here i think.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. man
Id say they can charge at the gate and id imagine there will be a big crowd at it.
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Originally Posted by celticlads
Never !!!! ;)
Worth a try i suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by mr. man
A Huge game sunday. Should be Epic. Hard to call considering the results in previous games between the 2 this year and the form both teams seem to be in.
I'll have to hold my hands up and apologise to Clough because at the start of the season I said I didn't think they would be able to maintain the form for the whole season. How wrong was I!!!!
Hope there is a good crowd there ( I will def make it for this one ). Any guesses on how many will be there?
As for my prediction. Town at home, last league game, 2 points ahead, How could they not retain the title?? I'm sure they expect to along with most neutral supporters, But Clough have been upsetting the odds all year ( 5-0 in brickfields ) and they have nothing to lose.
Clough to win:cool:
My guess is 287 people .. !Quote:
Originally Posted by BobblePark
Thanks bobblepark .. At least someone believes in us , reckon there isnt too many that do .. We believe in ourselves which is what matters ..
500/600 i reckon, not many games on sunday so id say alot of neutrals will show up.
self belief is everything mr. man
Lookin forward to a great game - I'd say there will be a good crowd, alot of interest in this one - hope its not a let down now!
town 3-1 clough, well done to town and hard luck to clough
Well done Nenagh, very dominant display, could have been 5 up at HT. Mikey O'Gorman is a serious player at this level, Ponky, Scouter, Mole, Savvo, Roy Creagh all on their game too, Nenagh's attitude was spot on for this. Future looks bright, 17 and 19 year olds scoring, several youths on their B team who will contest Tipp final in 2 weeks time, the club is doing a lot of things right for all the knockers they have, the price of success I suppose. Great to see the crowd in Brickfields, at a time when Tipp were hurling on TV. Hard luck to Clough, a great season which is not over yet by the way, think the occasion got to them yesterday
I have to agree. I was in Brickfields yesterday and Nenagh dominated in all area's of the pitch.Could have won by more. I have also seen there B team this year and i reckon they would challange in the Premier league if rules allowed.
Fair play to Clough for putting up a great fight this season. Nenagh usually have the league won by Paddys weekend. Clough will have it all to do in Tipp cup semi final even with home advantage.
Lastly, of course Nenagh can charge at gate, and looking at the conditions in Brickfields yesterday, so they should. Im sure it costs a lot of money to maintain such facilities.
ya would have to agree with the 2 lads town wer well in control, clough never really got into the game, ponky was the best player on the field yesterday in my opinion
Ahh we actually froze yesterday , and we feel like we let alot of people down .. Pity that our worst performance came on the final league game ..
Wel done Town , they fully deserved it ( thats hard to say ! ) agree with celticlads - ponky was the best on the field ..
An all Nenagh Tipperary Cup Final, A-team vs B-team. Great achievement for the club. Nenagh A-Team beat Clough 4-3 on Sunday in the semi final, Cloughs pitch is a disgrace tho. 4-3 was very flattering to the home team. The last 2 Sundays Nenagh A-Team have proved why they are where they are and have made Clough look a very average side.
Roll on the Tipp Cup Final for a cracking all Nenagh affair.
Well contested semi final played in poor conditions. Not a lot of quality on show besides Ponky who is unplayable at the moment. Clough conceded goals at a awful times just after they got them selves back in the game. For some reason clough defended too high & too flat as 2 of ponkys goals were similar with a long ball over the top left him one on one.
I think the last post is being a bit harsh on clough, however i do agree that it is a great achievement for Nenagh to have an A & B team in the top cup competition.
Super achivement for town to get both teams in the tipp cup final and it will be a great day for th club, on the other hand to come on hear with your very 1st post and say Clough are very average is a real lack of respect. Clough won the premier cup, contested a playoff for the league and reached a tipp cup semi, they also made yer A-Team look very average a few weeks back as you put it. Town are and have been the top team in North Tipp over the last few years no doubt about it but surely Clough are intitalled to some credit for the year they had?
I would have to agree with Celticlads.
Ok maybe i was a little harsh, Clough have showed some great signs this year, and fair play its nice to see a club like that stay right in it until the end. Fair play to them but what i will say is that they faltered when it mattered. Form is temporary, class is permanent!
Agree with alot of what you said billygoat , especially the ponky comment .. Super player .Quote:
Originally Posted by Billygoat
Class is indeed permanent, and permanently lacking in your posts (all 2 of them). You just don't get it, do you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hon-The-Blues!!
What do you feel i have said wrong, i said fair play to Clough for getting this far , but Nenagh have proved that they have that nitty gritty to get through tough times, yes we faltered at Clough and lost heavily a few weeks back, but with only 10 men for the whole game. Where as when it counted we made no mistakes. and as for the 4-3 last Sunday, the pitch and wind were 2 major factors, and Clough are used to that excuse for a field. There is a reason we are where we are the last few years, it is indeed nice to see another side push to the end of the season, but i feel ye may have done a man city on it. one season means shag all unless you can back it up the following year, and i just dont see that happening to be honest.
Sorry if you feel the need to go to childish insults about brain cells and the likes, just because i give my opinion. If your really that bothered by my opinion , send me an email there to CouldntGiveA****@NenaghAFCTrophies.com
2011 Census
Population Nenagh Town - 7,995
Population Cloughjordan - 431
I'll just post that for comparison purposes.
Not only have you upset alot of people on here id go as far as to say that even the Nenagh AFC lads on here would be cringing at the comments you have made so far, crying about the wind and pitch and your last line takes the biscuit altogether.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hon-The-Blues!!
Does that Census include the lads from Limerick that play for ye??Quote:
Originally Posted by bawn79
Im not trying to upset anybody here, and i dont feel i have said anything major out of line, i have just giving my opinion, if ye dont like it then that is yer opinions and i respect that.
Celticlads - Can u honestly say that pitch is up to scratch i mean really, come on, i would nearly go so far as to say i would prefer Kilcommon to Cloughs field. Fair enough the comment on the wind was stupid, ill retract that.
Thats actually pathetic what you have written there . Its says alot when lads from other clubs are replying to your posts and defending us . And i would agree that anyone from Nenagh Town on this would be embarrased by you and your first 3 posts ..Quote:
Originally Posted by Hon-The-Blues!!
And the time we beat ye in town 5 nil , it did count !! Well it counted for us cos we ended up winning the premier cup after it .. I thought that would have mattered for ye.
Regarding our pitch - we know its terrible .. you are whinging about it .. We are the ones that have to play on it every 2nd week .. Now thats not nice !
We await yer 5th crazy post ! :D
Oh you mean the 2 of them !! ok we will up that population to 433 then ! And your point in mentioning that is ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Hon-The-Blues!!
That census comment means nothing, there are two clubs in nenagh plus the amount of people from around nenagh that play for other clubs... Also it's the quality of the players on a team not the number of people that live in the town... The quality that Nenagh AFC have is down to the the club and coaches and the fact that most of the A team have played with the club since u10s.Quote:
Originally Posted by bawn79
[QUOTE=Tractor Boy;1685567]That census comment means nothing, there are two clubs in nenagh plus the amount of people from around nenagh that play for other clubs... Also it's the quality of the players on a team not the number of people that live in the town... The quality that Nenagh AFC have is down to the the club and coaches and the fact that most of the A team have played with the club since u10s. Also the fact there is a GAA club and rugby club in nenagh
Hon-the-blues - Step away from the keyboard.
As for the population argument, forget it lads. Nenagh AFC top dogs for a number of reasons - take their footie seriously, progressive schoolboy / girls set up, good coaching, great facilities, club identity from a very early age, encourage their young players to play in Nth Tipp Emerging Talent squads, cater for players of all standards etc. A proper football club. Disliked because they are so successful, like Man Utd, Kilkenny hurlers etc. Sunday mornings Astro sessions for ages 5-8 are where it all begins, from what I've seen recent crop are best yet. Hon the Blues indeed, but I say it and mean it without being condescending or mildly insulting to other clubs.
Lets get back to discussing football. Does anybody think that Nenagh B have any chance in the final or is it a foregone conclusion like a lot of people might suggest.
Im sure Nenagh A must be very confident.
Ok obviously alot of us got off on the wrong foot, anyway moving along swiftly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billygoat
Yes i think our B Team have a good chance, they have some quality players and are well able to take their chances as we have seen all year, they are a premier side, just not in the premier division due to the rules. I think if they do get bet it will be by no more than one. A very entertaining game is on the cards
[QUOTE=Tractor Boy;1685568]Lads, don't get me wrong. I really respect what Nenagh Town have done. I'm using the population argument as a shield to defend Clough not a sword to attack Nenagh. Nenagh have a brilliant set-up and from any dealings I've had with them they always come across as decent people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tractor Boy
However they do have a natural advantage based on population. People associated with the club shouldn't use this advantage to attack other clubs that don't have those advantages. I don't have any issue with the success Nenagh have had however based on the size of the town they should be winning the league every year easily and their sights should be set to higher prizes.
For example - Its like when say Bulgaria qualified for a world cup and got to the semi-finals in 94, that was based on a group of good players coming together at the same time. However Bulgaria have a small population and have had little success since. I would compare Cloughjordan to Bulgaria (sorry Clough!) and Nenagh to Brazil.
Brazil will curn out players based on the sheer size of the population. However you don't see Brazil boasting about beating Bulgaria. They boast about beating the Spains / Italys / Germanys of this world. In the case of Junior soccer these are better the teams of towns with similar populations in the FAI / Munster Junior Cups.
You could go into further analysis showing that with the main teams in the next two biggest towns in North Tipp not playing in the competition (ie Peak Villa (Population of Thurles 7,933) & Killavilla (Population of Roscrea 5,403) that Nenagh are an absolutely huge fish within the North Tipp pond (population of North Tipperary 70,322). To be honest I would think that the lack of competition in North Tipp is what holds back Nenagh in the National tournements.
I mean that Cloughs pitch is what it is and likewise for our own pitch, that is the unfortunate part of football in North Tipp, on the Tipp cup final I think the B team will put up a good showing but fancy the A team ill go for 4-2Quote:
Originally Posted by Hon-The-Blues!!
[QUOTE=bawn79;1685765]You have made a lot of valid points but you have missed 1 huge reason as to why north Tipp teams haven't had success on the national front, most players in the bigger leagues in the country are getting paid! now its not the only reason but it is a huge factorQuote:
Originally Posted by Tractor Boy
[QUOTE=celticlads;1685770]I haven't much experience of getting paid for playing soccer so that might be why I didn't include!Quote:
Originally Posted by bawn79
I assume they only pay to bring in players from outside the area or how does it work?
[QUOTE=bawn79;1685779]Nor do i, its very hard to take on the big teams form other leagues when they are paying players and bringing them form all over, wasnt trying to have a go at you at all i just think its a big factor but like i said its not the only reason we struggle to contest on a regular basis. Form what i know some of the teams in south tipp have done well in national competitions without the aid of money. Ive no problem with a lad getting a few bob for petrol but some lads get signing on fees and other money throughout the year which for junior soccer is just wrong, in my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by celticlads
[QUOTE=bawn79;1685765]Was Sallypark covered in that census? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tractor Boy
Congrats to the Nenagh youths on their emphatic victory in the Joe Delaney final on Saturday, top quality performance
[QUOTE=panda87;1686569]Best Youths team the club has produced for a while, all bar 2 of panel have been with the club for past 10 years or so, were a potentially very good schoolboy's team who never really fulfilled their potential on the national stage, have also 2 now playing with Limerick FC, including schoolboy international James McGrath. Very well coached this season too, well done lads.Quote:
Originally Posted by bawn79
[QUOTE=skunk;1686583]Well done to Nenagh Youths - that is some win. I understand there are u-19 national cups, anyway ye would be able to keep them together to play in that?Quote:
Originally Posted by panda87
Maybe play them en-mass as the B team or could ye enter them in the limerick league or something?
[QUOTE=panda87;1686569][QUOTE=bawn79;1685765]
Was Sallypark covered in that census? :)
Sallypark's population according to the last census was in minus figures! Everyone was probably out when they went around on the day.
[QUOTE=bawn79;1686589][QUOTE=panda87;1686569]That tipp cup win last year was some achievement so! ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by bawn79