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With no disrespect to any Fingal fans out there, I was never a fan of the Sporting Fingal franchise. Basically its success was artificial with money been pumped in by a rich financier (who is now broke and been bailed out by NAMA). There is already to many clubs in Dublin and Fingal is completing with well-established clubs in the area for there fan base, so I can't see how there small fan base growing and ultimately the club becoming self-sustainable.
I can't speak for the others. But seriously, Dundalk in "greater" Dublin? Grrr.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparky12345678
There arent any well-established clubs in the area. Sporting Fingal is the ONLY club in Fingal ( league that is ). Have a look at your post again and see where you are going wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guinney
Well it wasnt meant to offend. Just that if Bray is in greater Dublin, then i was including Drogheda (ie louth., ie Dundalk) as part of a central east coast concentration of clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by White Horse
My naive suggestion would be to amalgamate Dundalk and drogheda, ha.
lol
Maybe the irish are just too parochial to fund and support big professional clubs (although it works in rugby the regional club thing works in rugby and the parochial thing in GAA so what is soccer doing wrong??)
This has been my understanding as well. Sporting Fingal is a club for Fingal. I haven't realised there is another LoI club in Fingal?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
South Dublin has Shamrock Rovers.
This suggestion raises its head from time to time - including from Fran Gavin back when he was PFAI Director.Quote:
Originally Posted by sparky12345678
An amalgamation of Dundalk and Drogheda would effectively mean the demise of one club, and realistically could only occur in these extreme circumstances.
While the possibility of Drogheda folding is not far-fetched, the prospects of there being a new "Louth United" are so remote as to be almost non-existent.
Co Louth is better off with two vibrant clubs, and the League of Ireland likewise for having as wide a spread as possible from outside Dublin
amalgamamtion of long est clubs is hairbrained and proposed by non foobtballing people I like most league supporters follow my club and would never counternance supporting another no matter what name they used.
However I would not mind the mons Joining up with rovers ,they would benifit from our fan base making them a massive club while we can claim rapid funding for our work in disadvantaged areas.
Passer surely there are designated RAPID areas in Monaghan too?
in reality an amalgamation of any 2 clubs would actually mean the demise of both clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezeikial
Are you on here long enough to remember SuperGretna?Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
yes gortakeegan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
If we amalgamamted we would be known as shamon mother****ers
Eh!! Are you serious??Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Not all of South Dublin now like. Are St. Pat's in the region of South Dublin County Council?Quote:
Originally Posted by PartySaint
rovers and pats are both south dublin while bohs, shels are north side inner city while fingal is north side subarbia,not 100% sure am open to correction.
but as someone says any attempt at joining two clubs only means the demise of one.
Sorry, I thought St. Pat's/Inchicore was closer to the city and not in the South Dublin County Council area.
Long enough :)Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
I know you're saying that tongue firmly in cheek, however I remember alot of people saying the same thing about Shamrock Rovers, Shels........then again, it's first nature for Irish football to kill itself, does a far better job than the sky leagues or our meeja ever could!Quote:
Originally Posted by ARooney28
They're smack bang in Dublin City. Palmerstown is the nearest point to Inchicore that's in South Dublin. This bull about Dublin having a team for each council area is nonsense. And the idea that there is a Fingal identity nowadays is mental. I am aware of the history of Fingal and the historical significance of same but I dare ya to say it to someone from Dunboyne that they're from Fingal now!Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Anyway, The Lep geographical denials aside, we asked months ago about what was going on with Spingal and yoursmelf and Lamper as the 2 prominent Fingal fans here were asked what was going on and you assured us that everything is fine. Now, no reason to doubt ye but is this Gannon resignation a surprise to ye or was it on the cards long ago when it became clear he wouldn't be funding ye this seasin?
Smack bang is a huge exaggeration - it's not much closer to the city centre than UCD.
You'll note I didn't say in the middle. It's in Dublin City unlike UCD. And besides its not the important part of my post. Don't distract the Lep.
Dunboyne isnt in Fingal :) Do you read back what you post :) What have i denied geographically ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
What are you on about? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
"Hmm haven't been on foot.ie for a while, think I'll check out what's going on. Oh could be an update on Sporting Fingal's situation..."
*click*
*read*
*read*
*read*
"...nope just a page and a half debate on Dublin's city/county boundaries. The new season can't come quick enough"
Bonnie can I just say for the last time. I never denied anything ok. Read back over any of my posts in the thread and you will see. Im starting to think now that you are on a wind up, as iv said this to you before.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
As for the fingal not having any identity, well the idea of the club from what I could tell was, that it is not a club created from the idea of fingal having a well established identity but a way of helping the area to re-establish the fingal identity. It was formed so people would start thinking of fingal as a defined area in the north of Dublin county again and hopefully bring a sense of pride to the area (whether it will work is another debate). There is a difference between north county Dublin and inner city Dublin (no jokes please:)) and a lot of people from around my area know this. We also understand about fingal in a way that a lot of other Dubliners dont. Now im not saying for one minute this is everybody but it is evident in a lot of people out our way. Most of the people Iv talked to about Fingal at games are delighted to have a club for our area finally. This is how they feel and why they support the club.
The Gannon resignation is not a surprise but not because I knew something yous didnt. I think it was quite easy to see that the writing was on the wall for us getting money from gannon when it was announced that anybody involved in Nama cant make contibutions to sport and so forth.
No head in sand, no denying anything just not wanting to get into endless arguments over this again and again.
Im worried and have been for a while now. Iv already said this in earlier posts.
Cheerio
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THE departure of developer Gerry Gannon from Sporting Fingal has been confirmed, leaving the club in severe need of investment if they are to remain a professional outfit in 2011.
Gannon's cash propelled Fingal into the upper reaches of the Premier Division and to FAI Cup glory in the space of just three years.
However, the developer -- who was a member of the Anglo 10 -- is now tied up in NAMA and is unable to spend money on any recreational project ..................
http://www.independent.ie/sport/socc...h-2465626.html
It was a crazy idea pushed through by Buckley and a few deluded Fingal County civil servants, most of who don't even live in the Fingal county boundaries.
I think UCD lies in both Dublin City and Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
Where are you going ? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne
When you come back try and keep up as that has been posted a few pages ago. With you being a jurno and all that it should be easy for you to keep up with the news :)
Fingal is a council administration area. Thats all.
I have never heard anybody say they were from Fingal if they were from Lusk or Littlepace, just that thats who does their bins and cuts off their water!
What a load of nonsense.
Can somebody please change the record - can we not discuss something with some sense and relevance?
What does it matter in footballing terms what it is ? This rubbish has been posted again and again and it has nothing to do with football .Quote:
Originally Posted by OneForTheFuture
For the record , i live in Fingal and proud of it. I support a football team that represents Fingal and im proud of that and i couldnt give a fiddlers what the nay sayers think.
Fingal is far better than Termonbarry. :)
It was Lamper who spoke about that part of the debate so I commented on it.
I live in Fingal too btw. I don't see anything referring to the club in my area.
It's good that you feel pride in being from Fingal but I don't quite understand why or how. Pride in the club yes but in Fingal CCA?
recreational project ? is he been smart or was that in the press release
So how does this leave Sporting Fingal FC for next season, how they retain their current players and also pay them full time now ? Surely they cant.
They played some great football and had a great side, but it was never going to last.
Would part time and a lower mid table finish be the best to hope for now? Also would they still survive if they got relegated ?
Rovers said they were part time and won the league. The league finish all depends on the quality of players we have next season and i cant see a reason for us to have a poorer standard of players seeing that we have retained the best players. Not all the best players are those better know in the league. I would hope for the higher the better finish. I see us finishing top 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
People are making the mistake that with Gannon gone its the end for Fingal which isnt the case. These things happen in football all the time and the club will cut its cloth to suit like i said at the start of this thread and base it on money they have coming in and not what we could get which a lot of clubs have made that mistake.
We are in europe next year and im sure Buckley would want to be competitive in that again.
If we got relegated it woul no doubt harm our ability to attract more support but we would survive .
Fingal are nothing without Gannon's money.
They were an artificial club created on paper without any football provenance or roots in football at any previous level.
Clubs with a support, history and tradition, along with a solid backbone of 'football people' could survive the loss of a major benefactor through established fundraising by and from their fanbase, added to a paying gate attendance.
Fingal Franchise with none of the above, are history.
Good riddance!
What I don't get is how you aren't more alarmed to the fact that nearly nineteen grand a week has been removed from your budget.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Lep
The fundamentals are sound. Nothing to see here folks.Quote:
Originally Posted by L.T.F.C.
Ye,ye,ye. change the record. What roots in football did shells have when they formed?Quote:
Originally Posted by Buile Shuibhne