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An absolute sickener for Spurs pardon the pun. Its a pity that Spurs could not play properly due to the food poisoning. Its a pity as it would have been interesting to see who would have finished 4th on a level playing field. I thought Henys comments after the game were out of order and I was suprised at him but maybe he was getting emotional about leaving the Library.
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Originally Posted by KarlosIRL
Pity Arsenal had to employs chefs to help them out this time though. :D
Is it correct now that Arsenal are now gaurenteed entry to the qual rounds for the CL and will be seeded there. Should they win the CL it will make no difference to this situation.
If they had finished 5th and won the CL then they would have gained entry straight into the group stages of the CL
No my understanding is that if they lose the champions league final they will be like Everton last season and have to qualify for the Champions League. If they win it though they will go into the Champions League proper as Champions. Some team who are in the champions league already will lose out and go into the qualifiers. This team I think is Celtic.
In a bizarre quote published in the guardian http://football.guardian.co.uk/News_...770022,00.html
Arsene Wenger is quoted as saying
"What happened to Tottenham I don't know. I feel sorry for that. We knew what happened at West Ham was out of our hands. It is cruel for Tottenham but sport is like that."
What happened to Tottenham was a reported fact.
why would he say "I don't know"
and then say " I feel sorry for that".
I can only assume that when apprehended the suspect immediately denied his knowledge of the 'crime' but admitted his heartfelt grief.
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Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Was wondering when this would begin. :eek: :)
Over 38 games, the best team finished in forth.
Is there any truth in the rumour that Spurs will be sponsored by Pampers next season?
From Bert's site http://www.xs4all.nl/~kassiesa/bert/uefa/index.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
"if the defending cup holder (possibly Arsenal) already qualified directly for the group stage of the Champions League, the champion of the 10th country on the country ranking list (Celtic) will gain direct access to the group stage."
So Neil you are saying that Arsenal by finishing 4th do not qualify for the group stages directly therefore by winning the CL they would take Celtic's place. Come on Barca. Riikard better bring his own chefs.
It's not a bizarre quote if you view the full transcript or see the interview. This question was asked of Wenger directly after the game and it's abundently clear that he's not saying what you seem to be alluding to Geysir. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Who is bert by the way. That is my understanding of it but I am not so sure.
Its cruel look on Spurs though and I do appreciate your point Karlos that over 38 games Arsenal got more points to therefore they deserved to finish ahead of Spurs. But Spurs could simply not function yesterday due to the fact that all but 3 of the team that played were vomitting in the dressingroom minutes before the match. I think Spurs did well to even be level at one point. If I was an Arsenal fan I would prefer to be playing on a level playing field and not have to rely on a bout of food poisoning to help their cause.
I'd unreservedly agree that Arsenal are the better team and are worthy of the 4th spot.
But weren't the All Black squad poisoned the night before their WC rugby final against South Africa?
If I was a Spurs fan, I'd have wanted to collect a point at Highbury in a more sporting manner. Swings & Roundabouts. Karma works in mysterious often funny ways!Quote:
Originally Posted by NeilMcD
Spurs where 7 points ahead at one stage - what about the help Arsenal got that pulled that back. A 9 point turnaround - yesterday was only a small part.
What's the situation with Henry? is it more likely that he leaves Arsenal rather than sign another contract?
To be honest Karlos your signature says it all you seem to more in hate of Spurs than you do love Arsenal. I would hope Arsenal win the Champions League now if they were not playing Barca. I love to see good attacking teams do well and I feel that Arsenal and Barca play the game in the right way. If it was a Milan Arsenal final I would like Arsenal to win. I dont see how as an Irish man local rivalry should even come into it. I wanted Spurs to qualify for Robbie Keanes, Andy Reids and Stephen Kellys sake They all played yesterday.
The fact of the matter is that Spurs were 2 points ahead of Arsenal yesterday. They were hit down with food poisoning which effected 10 of the squad. Basically there was no way they could win a game that they had to win under those conditions. Of course it had a huge impact on the huge race. What happened at Highbury was not against the rules and neither players was injured. The ref looked at both players and waved play on. Players are always told to play to the whistle which is what spurs did. Only Arsenal fans have come out and said that spurs were out of order. Any pundit that I have seen or heard has said that Spurs did nothing wrong so I think the karma thing is a load of nonesense. If you were going to go on about Karma i think robbing peoples grounds might come into it.
[QUOTE=KarlosIRL]If I was a Spurs fan, I'd have wanted to collect a point at Highbury in a more sporting manner. Swings & Roundabouts. Karma works in mysterious often funny ways!
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Karlos, the fact that you were on here crying like a spoilt child when Spurs beat Arsenal, and are now gloating uncontrollably suggests that you haven't quite grasped the concept of Karma.
surely both teams squabbling over 4th just goes to show how irrelevant both teams are/have become. fourth place is a disgrace for a team with arsenals talent and they were dropping points easily all season. same with spurs. nothing to do with bad luck or food poisoning. arsenal will probably go on to win the champions league please god but it wont paper over the cracks anymore than it did with liverpool last season. After all the furore last season about everton they hardly took the champions league by storm and spurs would have gone the same way. if its an acheivement for your club to finish fourth domestically than it is pretty obvious you are not goin to be hammering the better sides on the continent. I dont think it matters a ****e how many irish players play for spurs as only keane would be guarnateed a place, and even that is only a recent development.
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Originally Posted by Marked Man
Klein I think you will find that Spurs are not a bigger club that Either man Utd Chelsea Liverpool or Arsenal so finishing 5th is probably a good finish for them and where they deserve to be. Not every team can win the league so you have to be realistic with your ambitions. Spurs are a club that have never finished in the top 6 of the Premiership so that is progress this season for them Its like LIverpool have made progress this season from last despite the fact taht they won the Champions League last season. Not every team can win the League and champions League.
I dont see where spurs dropped points early on or that its a disgrace that with their talent they are fighting over 5th. I would think that Chelsea Man Utd and Liverpool have more talent than spurs do.
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Originally Posted by klein4
The days of players guaranteed a place are goine. Its a squad game and Reid are part of the Spurs squad so Champions League experience would have been good for them and for Ireland. Its a pity that they wont get it next season. But I do believe they have a chance of coming 4th next season if Arsenal do not hold on to Henry. I think Man Utd Chelsea and Liverpool may be too hard to catch again.
Food poisoning is a fact they did get it so there is no sour grapes from spurs on this one. They have not used it as an excuse. Name one other team that would have acted differently to Spurs the morning of their biggest game in years.