Ireland V Germany 12th October & Faroe Islands 16th October 2012 - World Cup 2014 Q

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

based on what international performances exactly?

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I don't think I've ever been particular impressed by either in any international performance, aside from McShane in one Celtic Cup match. Really, having either instead of Pearce is just plain stupid in my opinion, even if it would be a baptism of fire. Clark would be an option as well but he doesn't exactly breed confidence at centre half either. I'd also have Brady in there ahead of Cox on the wing and Long ahead of Keane (though obviously that will never happen..honestly I can't remember the last time Robbie even looked like scoring from open play for Ireland). Also, Coleman ahead of Ward. But thats just me.

I really don't understand people's problem with O'Dea. Sure he's slow and a bit cumbersome, but so are all of our centre half options with the exception of Kelly. Pierce looks a handy player but he's been getting schooled in the Premier League so far.

edit: Pearce even!

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Originally Posted by theworm2345

Really, having either instead of Pearce is just plain stupid in my opinion

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would actually be more stupid to start Perace in such a big match for his competitive debut.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

Pierce looks a handy player but he's been getting schooled in the Premier League so far.

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yes but as you know when you're not picked by trap you immediately become a better player.

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

yes but as you know when you're not picked by trap you immediately become a better player.

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Very funny, and partly true.

You know a player isn't ready when we don't know which one of Pearse/Pierce/Pearce/Perace is his name.

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Originally Posted by Colbert Report

Very frustrating to see Trap sticking with Robbie. He's banging them in in a pub league. Shane Long is an incredible player who looks great playing against some of the best players in the world week in and week out.

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Someones been reading from the Murdoch media for too long.

Personally I somehow manage to contain my frustration at him starting the guy whos our top goalscorer in every campaign under Trap and one of the all time international goalscoring greats.

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

I really don't understand people's problem with O'Dea. Sure he's slow and a bit cumbersome, but so are all of our centre half options with the exception of Kelly. Pierce looks a handy player but he's been getting schooled in the Premier League so far.

edit: Pearce even!

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Supporters in Ireland are dreadful and amongst the worst in the world, the vast majority will judge a players worth purely on the club and league they play for. You'll even see it in this thread with people wanting Andrews moved on despite him being our most impressive performer of late, it's cringeworthy stuff. The game doesn't exist outside of Sky for these people so they have serious problems when managers have a broader view than them.
O'Dea is in fine form for Ireland and is making a serious case to be a starter should st.ledgers form drop, he's been solid and reliable for us. Wouldn't have reservations about him and would select him over Pearce and Clark without hesitation.

Conor Clifford just called up. Announced on OTB!!!

Also here:

https://twitter.com/FAIreland

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Originally Posted by ArdeeBhoy

I'd say our chance of the draw is around 1%.

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It 33% chance of a draw according to the bookies.
A 16% chance of us winning and that leaves just
A 50% chance of Germany winning.

So not as bad as it seems!!

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Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954

In fairness, I'd take that.

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Me too, provided the money was right.

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Conor Clifford just called up. Announced on OTB!!!

Also here:

https://twitter.com/FAIreland

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Strange one, surely he's a long way off being able to play at international level?

Clifford is an odd call-up. I hope that doesn't mean we've another injury doubt to contend with.

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Originally Posted by Murfinator

Supporters in Ireland are dreadful and amongst the worst in the world, the vast majority will judge a players worth purely on the club and league they play for. You'll even see it in this thread with people wanting Andrews moved on despite him being our most impressive performer of late, it's cringeworthy stuff. The game doesn't exist outside of Sky for these people so they have serious problems when managers have a broader view than them.
O'Dea is in fine form for Ireland and is making a serious case to be a starter should st.ledgers form drop, he's been solid and reliable for us. Wouldn't have reservations about him and would select him over Pearce and Clark without hesitation.

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I'm not sure that's true. O'Shea and Gibson haven't been given many breaks despite winning titles and playing in the latter stages of the Champions League. I think in other cases it is true though.

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Originally Posted by Murfinator

Supporters in Ireland are dreadful and amongst the worst in the world, the vast majority will judge a players worth purely on the club and league they play for. You'll even see it in this thread with people wanting Andrews moved on despite him being our most impressive performer of late, it's cringeworthy stuff. The game doesn't exist outside of Sky for these people so they have serious problems when managers have a broader view than them.
O'Dea is in fine form for Ireland and is making a serious case to be a starter should st.ledgers form drop, he's been solid and reliable for us. Wouldn't have reservations about him and would select him over Pearce and Clark without hesitation.

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Judge players on club and league? where are you getting that from. I said i would move on Andrews to improve the way the team plays. We have better technical players available. I proposed replacing him with Fahey of the mighty Birmingham. Does that make me cringeworthy and amongst the worst supporters in the world?

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Originally Posted by Murfinator

Strange one, surely he's a long way off being able to play at international level?

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Is this for real??

Has Hoolahon turned down the opportunity to join up with the squad.

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Originally Posted by Manblue

Is this for real??

Has Hoolahon turned down the opportunity to join up with the squad.

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First thing i thought as well. Is Clifford still at Pompey? He wasn't really getting a look in there last i heard

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Originally Posted by the bear

First thing i thought as well. Is Clifford still at Pompey? He wasn't really getting a look in there last i heard

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No sent back to CFC because they wanted to loan in a striker iirc

Joke of a call up really. Countless players playing regularly with their clubs not getting a look in, and a player who's yet to make his senior club debut gets a call up? Disgrace really. Don't care if it's future of Irish football or not.

I say this very tongue in cheek quite often, but this time deadly serious. There are players in the League of Ireland I'd call up first.

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Originally Posted by Manblue

No sent back to CFC because they wanted to loan in a striker iirc

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It will be good experience for him anyway. Neither him or Hool would of got game time either way

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Originally Posted by the bear

It will be good experience for him anyway. Neither him or Hool would of got game time either way

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Not the point to be honest

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Originally Posted by Murfinator

Strange one, surely he's a long way off being able to play at international level?

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Not for us :D