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Considering Slovakia beat Russia away, I think we will have to break the mould of stalemates (chronic draw syndrome) and get 4 points from the next 2 games. A draw against Russia and beat Slovakia, would do grand. Then Russia would have a bit of hope to cling to and Slovakia won't miss the 3 points so much after their bonus in Moscow.
I think the Armenia V Slovakia is the most interesting one. As in, we have played there and won. So any slip up by Slovakia would be advantage us on a head to head. Particularly as Slovakia are likely to have the advantage over us in relation to the Russia away fixture.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
Agreed, I think we need to be aiming to win this one on Friday night.Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
How can you say agreed, and then contradict what geysir says, by saying we need to win on friday night? he clearly said a draw against russia is what he is hoping for.
I did not say that you Ros piece of ****** :)
I said one draw and one win would do fine - but we need a win - 2 draws are not good enough to top the group.
If 4 points is destined then I have a preference as to who to take the 3 points off.
My (unexpressed) hope is for 2 wins.
Also people can disagree with me and yet at the same time think they agree with me - I´m okay with that.
What swear word is 6 characters long and completes the expression "piece of..." ?Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
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Originally Posted by geysir
In your post i see no mention of a win against russia, this is all I see: "draw against Russia and beat Slovakia, would do grand. "
tets i was wondering the same. I dont think there was an actual one, just an inference in a bantery/slagging kind of way.
I think a win against Russia and a draw away to Slovakia would be a better way for to get four points. The win against Russia would really set them back and hopefully send them into enough turmoil so that they end up dropping further points in the group. In that case they would effectively be gone and we could battle it out with Slovakia for the first spot. A draw away to them in that case would be a good result (especially if Armenia can do us a favor)
It may well be the unanswerable question.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
I did not type out a swear word and my knowledge is very limited in these matters.
So enlighten me .............. in your mind - what is the difference between 'a win against slovakia' and 'beat slovakia'?Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Sorry I meant to say a win against russia...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by geysir
Isn't it implicit that if Geysir would take a draw with Russia, he'd also be happy if we won? Or is it a draw or nothing?
Regardless of who the win is against I'd prefer we won on Friday than on Tuesday, just for my state of mind. It'd make the next few days more relaxing.
If we were to get 4 points (good outcome either way) it's "tactically" better to beat Slovakia. They're the ones who need pegging back at this early stage. And a credible away win, like Northern Ireland's in Slovenia, would be a delight.
On a side-note - 40-1 for Dunney to get the first goal. Worth a couple of quid i'd say, he's due one
I got stung with that last time against Armenia and he never even left the Irish half. Didn't go up for corners or free kicks because of the injury he's carrying. Sledge is a better bet.Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
I thought Sledge was great bet scoring anytime against Andorra but he hardly went forward for the set pieces.
Fortunatly I don't gamble, I'd be well ruined by now.
If the Russians take a point tomorrow night, they'll be in a great position in the group, with 4 of their last 6 games at home next year, including the last one against Andorra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wolfie
We have to hope Slovakia drop something in these two games, as their next two are against Andorra, so it'll be September next year before they're tested again when they come here. Don't want them out of sight or anything.
Pat Fenlon puts it remarkably succinctly:
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...280633172.htmlQuote:
The challenge is to finally overcome teams that are perceived to be better than us. Russia in Dublin provides that opportunity. If we don’t beat them and Slovakia at home we cannot realistically expect to beat either side on the road. Therefore, we cannot expect to qualify.
The other match in Armenia will also be very interesting. Lets hope as we beat Russia, Armenia get something off of Slovakia. That match kicks off at 3pm GMT.
KO is at 15:00 GMT, or 4pm Irish time.
Think Slovakia will win, but maybe the home side can nick a point from it.
Hoping for a 2-2 draw in the other one. If it's 1-1, I can see Slovakia getting a winner, so hopefully Armenia can score twice.
Armenia 1 nil up! Lovely breakaway goal. Nice finish (through keepers legs)