Sporting Fingal Gone Belly Up

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18/10/2010, 1:15 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

I haven't commented in this thread in a long while since County-gate.
The thread has kind off gone off topic again as to who deserves to be where in the LOI. That is a irrelevant.
We all wanna see well-supported teams in a well-supported viable league. We don't want boom-to-bust teams. I am aware of the irony of saying that as a Shels fan. :)
There was an initial concern as to the fact that Gannon is being sucked into NAMA. That is a fact, now the other issues that have yet to be resolved are the finances for 2011 finalised or near to being finalised?
Having been involved in the draft budget process for DLR in the last 2 months I can tell ye Fingal CoCo are gonna be absolutely smashed in 2011 and I think we can say goodbye to serious involvement from them in that case. This is heresay but I cannot imagine that they're gonna get a windfall from the Local Government fund... though maybe the residents of Whitestown and Fortlawn might pay their rent arrears? :O That could do it!
Surely as this is Ireland and as nothing at all is a secret here... something must have leaked?

Why are you posting on a football forum that the residents of Whitestown and Fortlawn have rent arrears?
18/10/2010, 1:25 PM
BonnieShels

Dear lord Jesus. Are you for real? The realities of life really sometimes come out of the blue for you.
I'll go briefly off topic for your benefit. As the Fingal CoCo are landlords of a lot of properties there you can be almost guaranteed that there is a chance that some of them owe rent. That Is a fact of life. I could say the same for tenants in Ballyfermot, Ballymun or Neilstown... but as these are in different council areas it wouldn't directly translate as revenue for Fingal Coco. I don't work for Fingal coco so making an observation such as the one I did is one made based on probability and founded in a reality of Ireland 2010.

Now answer my question, has yer budget been finalised for 2011 or are ye still drafting?
18/10/2010, 1:27 PM
dfx-

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Originally Posted by R�iteoir

I'd be wanting to point out that fact on a large banner - mainly to be displayed at all games any club which qualifies takes part in up and down the country.

Nah it'd be offensive
18/10/2010, 1:35 PM
The Lep

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Dear lord Jesus. Are you for real? The realities of life really sometimes come out of the blue for you.
I'll go briefly off topic for your benefit. As the Fingal CoCo are landlords of a lot of properties there you can be almost guaranteed that there is a chance that some of them owe rent. That Is a fact of life. I could say the same for tenants in Ballyfermot, Ballymun or Neilstown... but as these are in different council areas it wouldn't directly translate as revenue for Fingal Coco. I don't work for Fingal coco so making an observation such as the one I did is one made based on probability and founded in a reality of Ireland 2010.

Now answer my question, has yer budget been finalised for 2011 or are ye still drafting?

You made out that residents in those estates have rent arrears when they might not have . Even if they do then it has nothing to do with the thread seeing that Sporting Fingal isnt funded by the money collected from rent.
18/10/2010, 2:16 PM
White Horse

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Even if they do then it has nothing to do with the thread seeing that Sporting Fingal isnt funded by the money collected from rent.

That is not how local government works. Money from different sources is not ring-fenced, it is part of general revenue and is used for a vast array of spending.

If Sporting Fingal is subsidised by Fingal Council, defaulting local authority rents could make the continuation of that subsidy more difficult.
18/10/2010, 2:51 PM
Lamper.sffc

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Originally Posted by White Horse

That is not how local government works. Money from different sources is not ring-fenced, it is part of general revenue and is used for a vast array of spending.

If Sporting Fingal is subsidised by Fingal Council, defaulting local authority rents could make the continuation of that subsidy more difficult.

Its a miss conception. They help but not in terms of financing the club directly.
18/10/2010, 3:00 PM
redobit

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Its a miss conception. They help but not in terms of financing the club directly.

Really - not a penny, didnt realise. So are your eggs even more in one basket than I had thought ?
18/10/2010, 3:02 PM
The Lep

We have fruit not eggs and its nice fruit at that :)
18/10/2010, 3:11 PM
Lamper.sffc

Really.

The council helped in the setting up of the club and where the ones who did a lot of research into how a club like ours could be run. They helped get the various sponsors in to help run the club and will in time be responsible hopefully for building a small sports complex and stadium that will see Fingal have a proper football ground.

As for the eggs thingy, I dont know tbh. Time will tell I guess.
18/10/2010, 3:12 PM
redobit

The Man from Delmonte is f**ked tho. :)
18/10/2010, 3:37 PM
The Lep

He could be at this stage but i was never a lover of delmonte anyway :)
18/10/2010, 4:45 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Its a miss conception..

she sounds kinky.
18/10/2010, 5:47 PM
BonnieShels

So again... my question, I'll phrase it carefully...

Is there any knowledge amongst the Fingal fans about the finances for 2011 or shall we continue to operate on hearsay?
18/10/2010, 6:58 PM
oldfan

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Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc

Really.

The council helped in the setting up of the club and where the ones who did a lot of research into how a club like ours could be run. They helped get the various sponsors in to help run the club and will in time be responsible hopefully for building a small sports complex and stadium that will see Fingal have a proper football ground.

As for the eggs thingy, I dont know tbh. Time will tell I guess.

There will be NO MONEY for building new Stadia.
Have ye heard the news this evening ....�8 or 9 BILLION to be saved in the Public Finances.
18/10/2010, 8:26 PM
The Lep

Yes, there is knowledge amongst the fingal fans and yes you can continue to go with hearsay as usual :)
18/10/2010, 10:15 PM
Nah Nah Nah Nah

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

So again... my question, I'll phrase it carefully...

Is there any knowledge amongst the Fingal fans about the finances for 2011 or shall we continue to operate on hearsay?

And why should we change the habit of a lifetime?
18/10/2010, 10:42 PM
BonnieShels

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Originally Posted by The Lep

Yes, there is knowledge amongst the fingal fans and yes you can continue to go with hearsay as usual :)

Now stage two of removing the blood from the stone...

Would some of the aforementioned Fingal fans care to divulge any of the said relative information to the rest of us without resorting to the defensive?

If not for my sanity then would some of ye please think of the children?
18/10/2010, 10:43 PM
BonnieShels

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Originally Posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah

And why should we change the habit of a lifetime?

Just cos... nothing more nothing less.
19/10/2010, 2:42 AM
Lamper.sffc

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

Now stage two of removing the blood from the stone...

Would some of the aforementioned Fingal fans care to divulge any of the said relative information to the rest of us without resorting to the defensive?

If not for my sanity then would some of ye please think of the children?

Bonnie, take a chill pill. We know a certain amount but if you are asking fans do they know what the finances of the club are for next year then you are asking the ridiculous. Of course we dont know for sure who does.
Oh and by the way there is no defensive here. We are just tired of the same old same old and you will have to forgive a fan for not wanting to go through the same crap week in week out and If anybody is being defensive its you. make a point if you have one and then we will answer, otherwise take it elsewhere.

I think you can understand why we dont feel the need to defend our club every minute of every day. Its been done to death by me and others. Until something of any particular worth comes out, I wont respond fully to it. Im just tired of it all. I just want to be a football fan and the enjoy the game.
19/10/2010, 3:44 AM
Charlie Darwin

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Originally Posted by SkStu

she sounds kinky.

She's always knocked up though.

With regard to Fingal, while Gannon's loans have come under NAMA, it is highly probable that he still has access to considerable personal wealth (albeit in his wife's name). As Fingal is as much a vanity project as Chelsea is for Abramovich, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if he was able to bankroll the club for some time yet.

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