I will say one thing, if what is in the picture was built you'd have one of, if not the best grounds in the league right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
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I will say one thing, if what is in the picture was built you'd have one of, if not the best grounds in the league right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
By rule do thumb,you mean covering most of the plans with your thumb and the visible part is what you actually get.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
You'd want to have a pretty big thumb for that to work.
Well phases 1 & 2 were to get the ground up to the regulations while the original main stand on one side plus the provision of away covered seating behind one goal was also included. The provision of terracing and cover on the side opposite the main stand an the other goal end was to be considered for the future as the team developed. So I suppose its a typical Irish development!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
Everyone missing the key words here: “could POTENTIALLY look like”. Still time 😀Quote:
Originally Posted by Shearer
If it works on the sun....Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Have I just woken up in 2006?
We like to roll it out every so often.
Imagine how off-the-wall the plans would have been if Pat's had taken the FAI's five grand?
Well itd be a nice novelty if a club was the one doing the opportunistic land grab for change
Good Luck to Pat’s I say.
would be phenomenal if it happened , Bohs and Shels playing out of the new Dalyer, PAts in their new 12000 all seater and Rovers in a completed 4 sided Tallaght Stadium.
Its not an impossible dream
That will never work without direct bus routes (or spaceship landing spots)Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
12,000 seater stadium.
Big corporate facilities.
Loads of shopping.
Loads of houses.
Fancy European archeticture.
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Can't host a group stage game in Europe.
I thought it was April 1st.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
The plans have legs imo. The type of people Mr K works with are well capable of doing the project which not only would be fantastic for the club but the entire area.
Who ultimately will bear the cost of the stadium?Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
Will it Dublin City Council through a lower sales price for the land, or Kelleher through a lower profit margin on the shopping centre?
The huge ace we have with this proposal is the urban development aspect with shopping & leisure facilities aswell as having Richmond up our sleves that can be used for more housing. I can't see any other tender ticking those sort of boxs it's all depends on what DCC want now.
Inchicore badly needs some major investment in the area. Unfortunately, Dublin City Council doesn't have the wit or imagination to lead on it.Leaving social and recreational development to "Developers hasn't exactly worked either. A new stadium with no public funding? Unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by D24Saint
While I would love to see Pats stay in Inchicore in a brand new stadium, stadium sharing in Tallaght would make a lot more sense.
I wish non Pats fan would drop the Tallaght sharing talk the vast majority would rather see the club fold first than see our club play at home in Tallaght Stadium & I live only five minutes from Tallaght stadium so this isn't blind anti Rovers/Tallaght talk. There is some heavy hitters involved in this project so let's see how it plays out.
"The stadium development will be financially independent and will not be reliant on receiving any Government grants."
Will never happen unfortunately
Is there a scale model? I won’t believe it’s happening until I see a scale model.
I won't believe it's happening until I'm sitting in the new Stadum watching a match.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
It looks nice, it won't happen.
This.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
A 12,000 seater ground seems pretty unnecessary really. Any reason given for such a large number? Would a better use not be to reduce the capacity and install more media and hospitality areas?
(requirements for Catergory 4 here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_stadium_categories) It could essentially become the ground for any future CL/EL group stage games.
One thing I'd add, which we seem to be losing sight of in ground redevelopments in this country, we're eliminating standing areas. I'd love to see a few safe-standing areas in our grounds.
https://i.giphy.com/media/OCMGLUo7d5jJ6/giphy.webpQuote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
The RTE Article suggested Pat's could be playing in the new Stadium by 2022. What with the pace of Stadium and any other type of large construction in Ireland, 2,022 years should be enough time to complete the build.
id imagine they have suggested 12000 seat stadium so they can allow the planners scale them back from there.
The plan could be viable as the profits on the development of houses and apartments + retail + the value of the apartments/houses they could build on the old ground should be enough to build a stadium.
I guess the problem is that there is a history in this league of plans being announced that (could be) viable but which still never happen.
I agree with D24saint btw , no way would I want to see Pats sharing in Tallaght and the local Tallaght people wouldn't be happy when the plans for the new Methadone clinic come out :)
A scale model is no guarantee of anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
I remember when Plonk Donovan had a scale model of the stadium in Bishopstown & we all know how that turned out :)
Is there a DVD (preferably featuring a Fatboy Slim track) ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
I won't believe it's happening until I see a DVD.
I've sold scale models to brockway ogdenville and north haverbrookQuote:
Originally Posted by Yossarian
Fairly ambitious plans there by Pat's, looks great. Though it makes you wonder why they don't seem to target UEFA Cat 4, when the capacity would be large enough for that and one would assume that the thing is designed with sufficient underground parking.
Any ideas how a "Phase 1" for this would look like? Single-storey building with a pitch and one or two stands on top?
I think we have found over the years that ownership of land for ground developments has been a bit of an issue. Nothing new here then...
I would love if pats could do it. It would be fantastic for the league in general.
From what I gather this is all in infancy stage but I don't understand the negativity from other other clubs.
Kelleher has always be described as a developer who wants his dirty mits on Richmond Park . He has owned the club for 12 years and seems as good a owner as the best of.them ie props them up financially when required.
The area needs development and pats want to be a part of it. It should be applauded
I think it’s more skepticism than negativity really. We’ve seen plenty of stadium plans that have come to nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
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Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
Without further detail we dont know but what happens to Richmond Park itself then as unless Ive misread the reports its is a rejuvenation development in Inchicore on DCC land. Sounds like a great project as many do if it does happen. But that would free Richmond up for a different development for Kelleher then, so mission accomplished. The new ground couldnt be a development on the Richmond Park parcel of land as surely its too small especially so close to The Camac that side?Quote:
Originally Posted by jinxy lilywhite
I think the biggest stumbling block could be DCC unfortunately. There is already one (self professed "Pats fan") councillor making negative noises.
1993 that was and still one of the better episodes, I was a mere 14 years old.Quote:
Originally Posted by Park_Lane
Great plans, looks fantastic but won't happen unfortunately. However wouldn't it be great if this was the one to break the mould though. These types of plans are released so frequently one has to stick eventually I suppose