I remember a time when squads a were allowed an over-age player ( maybe even two ) ~ ~ That was a long time ago ~ ~ I didn't realise that you could still do it these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
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I remember a time when squads a were allowed an over-age player ( maybe even two ) ~ ~ That was a long time ago ~ ~ I didn't realise that you could still do it these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Its about being underage when the qualifiers start. I guess its to allow continuity of squads through a full phase, but I dont like it. 23 year old competing in an u21 competition is just stupid IMOQuote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
You still can't do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
With the likes of Cirkin, playing for the U-21's whilst actually 22, it's a case of being inside the cut-off at the time the latest 2 year tournament cycle commenced. So that you could have someone born just a day before the 2023 cut-off, but still playing in eg the Finals in 2025, having already just turned 23 year old.
If I remember correctly you were allowed an over-age player or two ~ Maybe even senior pros ~ I suppose the idea was to add some maturity to squads ~ I am talking about 30 years and maybe even more ago, mind !Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Are you thinking of the Olympics where you field U23's or something and were allowed 2 or 3 players over that age?Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Yeah maybe~ ~ But I do think it was a thing years ago ~ A long time ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I just looked up the Olympics rules - was applied in 1992 with the overage allowance introduced in 1996. About 30 years ago. Would this not be it or do you have examples for U21?
In my desire to help you out Old Man, I came across this excellent article (a bit dated) which compares Ireland performance at U21 compared to other nations from a few different perspectives - but it also contained this relevant nugget... I cant find anything else online but the way it is written in the quote below implies that you were able to do it in the 1988 U21 campaign - and possibly only that campaign...?
https://futsalfinn.wordpress.com/201...-best-nations/
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Some items to note from this squad: (1) it included twins Patrick and Eamonn Dolan. While the old Rothman’s Yearbook listed them as born in Hammersmith, Patrick has always insisted they were born in Galway. Without calling Interpol in to investigate, we’ll take him at his word so that is one asterisk! (2) Gerry Daly was included in one game as an overage player, which teams were allowed do in that campaign. His 48 senior caps also skews the caps average of that squad.
It would be more consistent with the other age groups if they called it an Under 23 competition. Under 17s and Under 19s are for players that turn 17 and 19 the year the finals take place, Under 21s is the outlier as it's based on the year the qualifiers start.
Qualification for the U21 tournament takes much longer. Qualification for the U17 and U19 tournaments starts less then a year before the tournament, for the U21 tournament, qualification starts nearly two years before it kicks off
This is true for Cerkin but not true for kids born after 24th of June 2004. A friend of mine from Brazil (former professional footballer), his kid was born in Ireland 3 or 4 years ago. He's an Italian citizen and had been living in Ireland for 2.5 years before the birth and needed to be living here for 3 years. They stayed here for 2 years after the birth before he moved back to Brazil. So if the kid ends up being a footballer, they won't end up playing for Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Had a similar but different situation with another Brazilian lad I used to play with. His son (probably born in either 2011 or I think 2012) is playing 3 age groups up with Porto and can play for Brazil, Poland, Spain and soon Portugal but not Ireland, which is a real shame as I really think he'll be a youth international at the very least.
Can we thank Michael McDowell for that? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Off topic posts moved to current affairs forum
Noticed this guy on Australia's team - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aiden_O%27Neill
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He had previously been contacted by the Football Association of Ireland and the Irish Football Association but reiterated that his preference was to play for Australia.
A blast from the past. I think we discussed him in his burnley days. He seems to have worked his way up to build a solid careeerQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Just noticed that Dylan Lawlor (19), nine U-19 caps for Wales and on the fringe of the Cardiff City first team, is shown on Transfermarkt as eligible for Ireland too. Yet another centre-back!
That made me go hunting. Anyone heard of Tomas O Connor in Argentina?
https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/toma...pieler/1027880
Another goal for Paul Nebel, this time in a 3-1 defeat to Dortmund. I think that’s 8 goals in 25 games this season; 2 assists. He plays an inside right type role in a 3421. Him and Azaz behind Parrot or Fergie…
https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comm...paul_nebel_76/
He was asked about it recently - https://onefootball.com/es/noticias/...nthem-40865900Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
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“I know that option exists, but I’ve been with the DFB since the U15s,” Nebel said when questioned about the potential of representing the Boys in Green. “It always means a great deal to me to be here and sing the national anthem. Germany is my home,” added Nebel.
I read other quotes recently by him that were a bit more open to the idea. Those not so much. But sure we can always dream.
I'd say Euro 2028 will bring a few of these lads out of the woodwork closer to the time, assuming that we do indeed get there one way or the other. There were players suddenly appearing left, right and centre when the women's team qualified for the World Cup, having been nowhere to be seen before they qualified
Mancunian left-back Cian Flannery (20), who moved from the Stoke Academy to Sheffield Wednesday's U-18s and then their U-21s, is eligible for both England and the Republic oif Iareland, according to Transfermarkt. However, he is one of four U-21 players likely to be released when his contract expires at the end of June, according to the Sheffield Star (9 April).
This thread is gas. I wrote this about Chio Ogbene when he was on about playing for Nigeria.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
Makes me wonder what you were searching for that brought it up again!
One of the Twitter accounts has said that Dan Casey of Arsenal is eligible via 2 grandparents and “wants to play for us.”
He’d be in the u19 group that play competitively in November. I also noticed that Spurs have an eligible midfielder from the same year: https://www.tottenhamhotspur.com/tea...x%20midfielder.
And if you want to go way further outside the box, there’s Ryan Wyss a striker who has played for Young Boys in UEFA Youth League a handful of times.
And even further and you’ve got Josh Little who plays in Singapore and has been on the bench in Asia’s equivalent of the Europa league (at 17) and has been on trial at Braga in Portugal (2 years ago).
Jobe Bellingham anyone?
By Jove ~ Can you get him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Very unlikely. He'll probably be in the PL next year and has been dedicated to England. He's one of those that would probably prefer 2 caps with England Vs 100 with us.Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
I was hoping for a Will/Michael Keane scenario with them but it's not going to happen
It’s a no thanks from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by samhaydenjr
Possible link to Cardiff City defender being explored
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/...-keep-31707120
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However, Wales also appear to have a job to keep Lawlor on their hands, with the Republic of Ireland also having sought assurances over his heritage. Indeed, it is understood Lawlor does qualify for the Emerald Isle through Irish heritage.
Always very hard to get a player off Wales, they'll cap anyone with a pulse.
Perhaps, the player or player's agent is putting on a little encouragement, coz the guy is another centre-back and unless he considers that he is better that what we have, then maybe there is tactics at work here !Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Anybody know how Wales are fixed for centre-backs at the moment ?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wales_...l_team#Players Just going on clubs (mostly Championship) it looks like our fringe centre halves would be more likely to get a game for Wales.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
Jack McGlynn scored for the USA today in a friendly against TĂĽrkiye
I noticed Jamie Carragher's young lad is lining out for Malta now.
His connection to Malta is through his great-grandfather according to an article on https://www.joe.co.uk/sport/football...ational-479783
I thought it had to be grandparents to be eligible to qualify to play for a nation?
Saw some of the game. McGlynn looks like a decent player who knows his way around the midfield. And the opposition offered quite a challenge. He is an option I would have liked HH to have available to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Can only assume that his grandmother (Jamie Carragher's mother) was also born in Malta, or he wouldn't be eligible. Either that or someone has made a mistake, which wouldn't be beyond possibility.Quote:
Originally Posted by MylesNotMiley
Does Kieran Dewsbury-Hall actually qualify?
I think he would be the perfect “recruit” to fit into what we need for the current squad.
We have decent coverage in most positions now, a centre midfielders could bring us up a level.
Malta had very dubious citizenship laws that the EU just declared illegal in April. Basically you could buy your citizenship. He might have made it in the door before the law changed. The great grandfather spiel is probably something they're throwing out as a cover story.Quote:
Originally Posted by MylesNotMiley
I'm guessing this was his only real chance to play international football and he has a rich father so...
Even then though, FIFA rules are explicit that it has to be no further back than grandparents. For instance, taking someone like James McCarthy, who qualified through a grandparent, his kids would be eligible for Irish citizenship but not eligible to play for Ireland.