trap meet stephen ireland in manchester today .
apparently he expects ireland, finnan and obrien to make a return to the squad.
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trap meet stephen ireland in manchester today .
apparently he expects ireland, finnan and obrien to make a return to the squad.
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Originally Posted by eekers
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Originally Posted by bellavistaman
Something may be lost in translation but: After the meetings concluded, Giovanni Trapattoni said: “I had very good meetings with all three players. The discussions I have had with them have been very positive and I am confident there is a very good possibility that they will return to play for their country.” doesn't sound to me like there was any definite commitment from any of the players.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
Pretty thin line you're drawing though to be fair:
All sounds very good to me. Why worry?Quote:
I had very good meetings with all three players. The discussions I have had with them have been very positive and I am confident there is a very good possibility that they will return to play for their country.”
He's just saying what he is supposed to say in the situation, it could be the truth, but it could mean anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
Then he'll look very foolish if they don't play! If one of them said they wouldn't then I'd imagine a forthright character like Jovani wouldn't spin some rubbish. So if they've gone from definitely not playing again, to probably playing again, I'd say they definitely will play again. :)
On the contrary the players would look very very bad if they refuse the invitation to return. Imagine making such a nice old man, an Italian gent, come all that way to talk to them and him full of positivity and generosity (probably bearing a gift of a bottle of wine as well) and not a mean word out of Trap afterwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingdom hoop
Probably offered his hot interpreter's 'services' to them as well to seal the deal. No doubt Daddy Dick pounced.
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I see Niko Kranjcar is linked with Arsenal this week. I think himself and Ireland are on a similar level. Kranjcar got abuse from the Croatia fans for a long time because his performances weren't up to scratch and they thought he was getting picked because his father was the coach.
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Well, if his performances weren't up to scratch and his father was the coach combined with fans abusive mob mentality, it all makes perfect sense.
Yes, Stephen Ireland is Steven Staunton's lovechild!
Presume its supposed to be this.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Superhoops
Traps english has come a long way since the press conference :D
I'm just delighted we have an experienced manager in to do the job, relax people Stan is away, i am sure Trap will make great decisions, hopefully those above will return if not then we will just move on and forget about them.
Says in one of the tabloids today that Andy O'Brien is likely to go to Portugal but Stephen Ireland didn't want to go on the trip and isn't available for the two games against Serbia and Columbia but may be back after the summer. Am sick of the little sh1t at this stage, he can fcuk off as far as I'm concerned.
Mind you, that's taken from a tabloid so I'll retract that if it turns out to be BS!
Ha, does he think he is too good to do friendlies now? at least heave the decency to pretend you're injured for friendlies like most other players do, the ego on this idiot is something else, I really don't think he is worth the hassle anymore, good news on O'Brien at least, he is nothing special but our defence should be slightly less dodgy with him partnering Dunne than O'Shea
That's called a conditional discharge :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er
The phrase "more trouble than it's worth" continues to spring to mind when it comes to Stephen Ireland.
funnily enough the phrase that keeps popping up to me isQuote:
Originally Posted by amaccann
" he's from cork,what do you expect"
Let me speak on behalf of all fellow Corkonians on here when i say ("f**k you, boy!) :DQuote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
No need for a ban, tongue is in cheek...
The guy is over rated. If he doesnt want to improve his profile and ability as a professional player and test himself against the best on the international stage then let him rot at city. Chris Sutton never achieved his full potential after the "B" cap thing. The same will happen with this tiresome little pr#*k.
Didn't realize that City were scheduled to play MU and Chelsea on those dates. If he doesn't want to play friendlies then he can f*ck off, Charlton banished O'Leary(a far better player) for thinking he was too good to play friendlies and I seriously doubt Trap is going to pander to this idiot, I can understand if some older players nearing the end of their career don't want to play friendlies as it is tougher on them physically to play so many games a year but there is no excuse for young upstarts snubbing friendlies
so thats our last two ever matches is it? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
what about the chance to play italy home and away in a world cup qualifier? surely the ambition of any even half ambitious footballer
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
Another excellent post by the ever so insight less Ciaran. The fact that this idiot has to be begged to play for his country says it all. It does not matter who we play be it a friendly or otherwise he should be privileged to wear the green jersey. I don’t know of any player in any other country where this would happen. To be honest he can crawl under a stone and rot for all I care.
International football is a very different challenge to club football and besides Man City don't play those two sides every week! Last week against Liverpool he was very poor.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
If Stephen Ireland wanted to represent his country he would have made that clear by now. He hasn't done that which says it all really. He's overrated and quite frankly we are better off without him. I'd rather have players with little skill but 100% commitment than have players with half-decent skill and 10% commitment. Hopefully Trappetoni will see through it all and rule him out altogether; that way we can move forward and focus on the players who are proud to be Irish and who actually want to represent their country and who don't see a green jersey as an embarrassing inconvenience.
I was fully supportive of Stephen Ireland joining the fold, and I hoped that all would look over his previous misdemeanours and give him a fresh start, but if this is true about him not wanting to play in this to friendlies then I dont want to see him in an Ireland shirt ever again.
There is no room for primadonnas under this new regime, if we want it to be successful.
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Originally Posted by Emmet
Excellent post, agree completely
A bit OT I know, but what do people on here think of Ryan Giggs?
If ever a player less deserved 515 posts! s**t 516 now.
I'd rather talk about Giggs to be honest. I think he is a very good footballer. What do you think of him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
I think he's a very good player but his attitude is very similar to Ireland's. Giggs has been one of the top wingers in the Premiership for 10-15 years. He's made 64 appearances for Wales in that time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
Who knows how many he would have made if he was "available" for every Wales game?
Ireland's not the only player like this.
How did he get on against the might of Middlesbrough?? Heard there was 9 goals in the game.... :D :rolleyes:
yeah and they were all Steven Irelands fault of course:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Ryan Giggs is world class; Stephen Ireland isn't. Giggs will play in a lot more matches over the course of a season for his club side because they compete in more competitions and are way more successful: Giggs was winning the League today and will be competing in the CL Final in nine days' time. Ireland's side lost 8-1 in a meaningless end-of-season kickabout to Middlesbrough today. I don't know too much about the circumstances behind his availability, or lack of, but I don't recall ever hearing about Giggs' Grans dying.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
I would agree with you comparing Giggs to someone like Roy Keane but not to Stephen Ireland.
Well said Emmet. Giggs has proved himself at every level of football, Ireland has not yet established himself as anything more than a decent premiership player with the potential to grow. Giggs at the same stage of his career had proved himself as an outstanding prospect. Midfielders like Ireland are abundant, we have much better players than him - S. Reid, A. Reid, Hunt, Carsley even Glen Whelan is looking like a better option now that he is Premiership bound. Ireland reminds me of Liam Miller who was supposed to be the next Irish superstar!!! Millers attitude has ruined his career (cos he undoubtedly has talent) and Ireland is heading the same way. If a top class performer doesnt want to play friendlies thats fine - they have nothing to prove - but any young up and coming player should want to play in every game in order to break into the team for WC EC games. This is what friendlies are for FFS.
you may be on to something there...Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkCut
[QUOTE=www.manchestereveningnews.com]IRELAND: Always looks stylish on the ball and ran tirelessly in a hopeless cause 5.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Elano got 6 for his goal, Petrov got 5 all the rest were under 5.
He's an attacking midfielder. Defence isn't his priority and if you'd actually watched the game, you'd know he set up Elano for the goal but, hey, don't let sense get in the way of your hate for Stephen Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
I never compared Ireland and Giggs ability-wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmet
My point was that Giggs' international career has suffered because of his commitment to a successful club career i.e. the post-match "injuries" on a Saturday that rule him out for Wales on a Wednesday but seem him magnficcently recover for Man U's match on the following Saturday.
Why does Giggs do this?
Clearly, Ireland's not the only one who puts club over country.
I could be wrong but I thought that Giggs only stopped turning up for Welsh games when he was an established player. Ireland is a relative spring chicken in that he is only on the scene for a season or so. Also while Giggs didn't do friendlies he did turn up for competitive games.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank
Stephen Ireland has opted out of competitive games by inventing the death of close relatives, apparantely because the lads were slagging him about getting hair transplants!! What a tosser. Good riddance. He deserves no respect at all from Irish supporters. He can stay in Manchester and have a very successful career but I don't want him to appear in an Irish jersey again or at least until he grows up and realizes it is an honour to represent your country.
You don't even know what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by galwayhoop
yes i do.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfrank