Dundalk FC record losses of over €1.2 million for 2019Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/...-for-2019.html
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Dundalk FC record losses of over €1.2 million for 2019Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
https://www.dundalkdemocrat.ie/news/...-for-2019.html
Very good piece on this. Hopefully NI based teams will change their minds!
Punchy.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeAreRovers
He's basically accusing the IFA of doing a lighter version of what the FAI has done to the LOI over the years.
Largely they won't I fear. Because their decision will be about more than just football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Martinho II
As a member-run club, I'm not even sure Crusaders would be in a position to support an AIL if it ever came to a vote on one.
I don't think the author of that piece (Mark Langhammer) is from Northern Ireland (anyone confirm?). Which may perhaps contribute to how he views things.
Yeah hes definitely not Southern based as I would have heard of the name by now as do be on twitter a lot so possibly he could be UK based?Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Although his family background was originally Central European, Mark himself is an Norn Iron as brown lemonade - born, brought up, educated and always lived there.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
Although he's quite an individualist, never afraid to swim against the tide. For example, away from football, he's a Trade Unionist and Labour/Community activist, who wasn't afraid eg to stand up to the UDA in Rathcoole back in the day. Which is either very brave or very stupid, or both. (I think they put a bomb under his car one time?)
Anyhow, I quite admire him for being prepared to be an outsider, but having said that, he does get carried away, including with the sound of his own voice. Which is why he's not as widely popular as he might be.
Also sticks up for Crues come-what-may, which means his views shouldn't be taken as widely representative beyond the Shore Road.
Definitely a character though, who despite (I think) going to rugby schools, is a proper football man.
When helping conduct a strategic review with Harps over a decade ago we spoke to various clubs on both sides of the border about how they did things and Mark was incredibly helpful, as where people involved in Cliftonville and Dungannon in fairness, generous with his time and experience and so willing to help out.
But Cork is de real capital, boi !Quote:
Originally Posted by oldfan
Has anyone, anytime, ever produced even a moderately cromulent reason for this bizarro claim?Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
I'd guess the answer might be here. DSM-5 Cork has a ring to it if a new club name was ever needed.
The Corkie with an inferiority complex - thinks he's only as good as everyone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
In a bizarre turn of events the UVF will be competing in the 20/21 NIFL Premiership
https://www.otbsports.com/sport/new-...scheme-1029026
Bizarre is... one word to use alright.
This is no comment on the suitability or otherwise of this new kit (though I have the sick bag handy just in case!), but there is rather an important mistake in the text of that article:Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
"The purple and orange flag of the UVF was first displayed - according to React - "on the U.V.F. review parade held at Balmoral, Belfast in 1912".
The UVF officially ended its campaign of violence in 2007, but during the Troubles they were responsible for more than 500 deaths."
The original Ulster Volunteers formed up under Edward Carson in 1912 to oppose Home Rule. Around the same time, the Irish Volunteers were formed under John Redmond to support it.
However, when WWI broke out, the campaigning around HR was put on hold until the War was settled. Meanwhile, many members of the Ulster Volunteers joined the British Army as part of the 36th (Ulster) Division to fight the Germans in Flanders etc, while members of Redmond's Volunteers joined the 16th (Irish) Division, the two at one stage fighting side-by-side, and with great distinction.
Anyhow, you probably know what happened subsequently (Easter Rising, War of Independence, Partition etc), the point being that at the end of this period, the Ulster Volunteers basically disbanded.
Which was all fine and dandy until a bunch of scum led by Gusty Spence and his cronies got together in 1966 to form a paramilitary gang and chose the name "UVF". As such, they had no connection with the originals and no right to the name.
Therefore that report was quite wrong to segue seamlessly from 1912 to 2007, as though it was all one unbroken line. It wasn't.
All that said, it was still pretty crass - if typical - of Linfield to adopt that particular colour scheme, 1912 or no.
Something like this is far more dignified:
https://www.newsletter.co.uk/news/so...4807#gsc.tab=0
I think the biggest club in the NIFL deliberately modelling their kit on the colours of a sectarian murder gang probably extends beyond crass. I won’t even honour your explanation of the UVF’s history with a response.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
It will no doubt sell very well, gotta give them that I suppose.
With the 12th of July a month away, perfect timing.
There hasnt being much comment here on Wexfords attempt of an awful new jersey on Che Guevera. I think its shocking and disgraceful to have a picture of Guevera to be sneakily put on it. It took me guts of a day to see his image. Hope FAI clamp down hard. Dont mind Bohs one but Guevera takes the biscuit altogether.
OK, substitute "crass" with "disgusting" or "disgraceful" if you like - you'll get no objection to that from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
How was it incorrect or misleading?Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
I didn’t say it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Do we have a pic of Wexford’s Che jersey ?
Then is there another reason for appearing to disapprove of what I wrote?Quote:
Originally Posted by DCWA
https://m.independent.ie/sport/socce...-39274024.html
I've looked at that picture for a few minutes and I can't see any image. FWIW I think Mick should be allowed sponsor them even though he's a politician. Middle Eastern scumbags/dictators/royal families are allowed sponsor clubs.
If Nutsy wants to wear an orange sash, that's his choice
They don't have to run for office where there are rules on political expenditure and advertising. Mick Wallace Construction - fine, no problem. Mick Wallace, affiliated to the European United Left /Nordic Green Left - problem.
And I think if you stare long enough at that jersey ... It's not a schooner. It's a sailboat.:cool:
Che wasn't a big fan of the blacks at all at all at all
So will be mildly interesting to see if there's anymore about it.
I just hope Mick took all that money he was supposed to pay into his employees pension funds that time and gave it to worthy causes.
Worthy causes not named Mick Wallace.
That would be the socialist thing to do.
Out of curiousity how is a politician paying to have their name on a football shirt any different than paying to have their ad in a newspaper or an advertising hoarding around a pitch, which are the sorts of things that are not unusual to see ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
The Electoral Act 1997 set out rules on campaign spending during general elections. So a proportional amount of whatever annual figure Wallace is spending on the sponsorship would be considered electoral spending between the dissolution of the Dáil and polling day and have to be declared. If a politician runs an ad in the local paper outside the election campaign the spend doesn't have to be declared. Madness, really. I'd much rather see annual limits.
If you double click on that image from indo article above you do see it. It was my younger brother that first told me about it and I then asked him for the original picture of Che Guevera. I too had huge difficulty in seeing the image but stared at it for a minute and then it hit me. Its shaded on the bottom right of that jersey and its sneakily done too!
If they didn't mention it, nobody would have noticed!
Sounds something like a 2030 European Cup Final line-up! (the semi final losers constesting the Europa League Final).Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
Wouldn't be much of a game with 22 left wingers in the line-ups.;)
Ah sure the Eminance Grise would have already decided the score lol
That assumes there is an election during the period the shirt is worn by the team. Which would now appear to be very unlikely.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eminence Grise
I'd love the all Ireland league to get off the ground, at this stage. Just the idea of being able to leave the deadwood behind and compete in a strong vibrant league with hopefully the sectarian baggage becoming less of a thing as time went on. 12/14 team summer league with promotion/relegation from a 2nd tier group of mixed LOI/IL teams. Linfield could get the chance to show off their UVF inspired 3rd kit😁😁
Some of the stuff flying around twitter is funny, Ballymena's shirt is a UVF Flag and Glentoran play in Palestinian Colours... But that's NI, you can take the **** out of each other still unlike in England!
Amazing the direction this thread took. I wonder how many of you know that Pat Fenlon picked the new Linfield kit? ;)
Hobson's choice if the other option was a bowler hat and sash. Nothing sinister, obviously, just a tribute to bankers and beauty pageants.:cool:
It's just Linfield displaying their traditional class and style.
i.e. None.
There are tramps drinking Bucky under a railway bridge who have more concern for their dignity and appearance than that mob.
Still, as another Glens fan pointed out, we're quite happy with our colours:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...estine.svg.png
"Freedom for Palestine!" :cool:
And there was me trying to put structure on it a few pages back!! 😜Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_Parker
Given that Glentoran are older than that flag (or any other similar Arab state one), you could try to argue that they took their colours from the **** and Hens ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by EalingGreen
Looking like Portadown will be back in the top tier of the IL, replacing Institute:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/53149085
They're probably still a long way off it, but if/when they ever did get their act together properly, they might have realistic hopes for an AIL spot some day?
Certainly from a local pov, it could help the IL to have another "biggish" team from outside Belfast in the top flight. And local derbies with the Wee Glens will add a bit of interest too.