Seems like Ledley laughing and Taylor smiling.:bad::bad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Edit : Seen Taylor walking off the pitch apologising to the Irish management. Seemed pretty devastated. Only he knows what he meant to do.
Seems like Ledley laughing and Taylor smiling.:bad::bad:Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Edit : Seen Taylor walking off the pitch apologising to the Irish management. Seemed pretty devastated. Only he knows what he meant to do.
Does anyone have the game recorded? I'm very curious about how there was only 4 minutes of injury time. There were a number of subs and Coleman was down for quite a while.
All due respect to you Backie but do they not have DVR in Belfast?
Ha. We do but unfortunately it doesn't pick up the EPG information from free state telly so recording from RTE is impossible.
I do have my copy of Ireland v Italy from 1994 on VCR, from back in the days when this sort of thing worked perfectly.
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And then there's this bull**** to deal with trying to watch something online. The irony of where the guy being interviewed is from being blatently obvious!
Despite the poor game, I thought there was some great entertainment at times. The tackle was horrendous, and Bale also could have walked for his rash challenge only a minute earlier.
Was really there for the taking though, and while it was a game that was more must-not-lose than must-win, it really puts a bit of a spanner in the works now knowing that there was very little better chance for us to really grab 1st place in the group by the balls.
Also, it was incredibly, fantastically, and amazingly hilarious to see the band there after banning the Welsh from bringing in their trumpets. Saying that, I'd love to smash them over the heads of the lads playing. Terribly forced and annoying atmosphere, and blasting it through the tannoy was just needlessly ridiculous.
Pluses
- The McBride shirt presented by the Welsh side to Michael D. Classy.
- The applause on five minutes. Emotional.
- McClean's performance. It wasn't exactly world class, but serious respect for playing with controlled, sustained aggression. Can't have been easy after this week.
Negatives
- The game. The performance . The ref.
Nightmares
- That Taylor tackle
- This entire miserable week
There are no words
- THE TRUMPETS
Thought Bale was lucky to stay on the field, particularly after he appeared to kick McClean in the chest. But had a different view at the game (for instance, was far away from Taylor's tackle knew it was late but had no idea how badly Seamy was injured until later).
Absolute disaster for Coleman. Gutted for him.
Michael D Classy is Nigel Harps porn name.
I can't agree. He was so poor on the ball and so immobile. He was sitting on our centre halves. We can never press the ball when he plays cause he does not have the athleticism to cover the ground. If people who love whelan on here for his positional sense mastery want that great but we will never get those high octane Italy performances where we are on the front foot when he plays.mccarthy was a huge miss.Quote:
Originally Posted by zero
I thought it was really pointless, childish stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
There were 4 subs - one at half time and two while Coleman was down. I thought four minutes was about right.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Haven't been able to check the forum since last night, and haven't read all the thread, but I'd appreciate it if you didn't share any photos of the tackle itself, please and thank you
ruined what should have been a great atmosphere. everyone around me giving out yards everytime they piped up. who comes up with this nonsense and surely a home team is not allowed pipe music over the pa system during the match??Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
A brutal game all round. I'm devastated for Séamie. It couldn't have happened to a nicer character in football; awful for him. The tackle was simply disgraceful. Taylor obviously didn't mean it and you could tell he himself was gutted, but, sweet Jesus, it was just so, so reckless. Séamie's absence, presumably for what will be much of the remainder of the campaign, will be a massive blow for us. The injury actually made the result feel a bit like a loss.
Bale should have seen red too. Ref was rather casual.
Generally, we were very poor going forward, created little and left it way too late to make a final push or even take advantage of the extra man. We looked very limited and although McGeady provided a bit of a spark when he came on - he should have been on way earlier - we still didn't create much. It might also have been worth throwing Horgan on. We were completely impotent through the middle though and seemed limited to crosses. Although Horgan wouldn't necessarily have helped on that front, maybe we needed someone like Hourihane in there too. Hard to know considering it'd be a big call to give a player a senior international debut under such circumstances.
Whelan played terribly. Slowed everything right down and could well have been sent off for an idiotic and inexplicable attempt to elbow his Stoke team-mate, Allen, in the face. Hendrick played very poorly also.
We weren't troubled a huge deal at the back.
McClean gave everything on what was an emotional night for him. Deserved man-of-the-match.
Who on earth was behind the trumpet idea? It was an embarrassment - trying to contrive an atmosphere - and was absolutely murdering the genuine atmosphere that developed during the final push for a goal.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C7t1OZ9X0AARdO2.jpg
Just on this photo doing the rounds that allegedly shows Ledley "laughing" and Taylor "smiling" just after the tackle and within metres of Coleman lying on the ground, I think it would be unfair to jump to conclusions on the basis of a solitary photo. Ledley's face is certainly contorted but he could be grimacing at the horrific nature of the injury for all we know.
Meanwhile, Taylor was clearly genuinely upset. He apologised to the management team on his way off and Shane Long claimed that he had been in tears. I definitely don't think his facial expression in the photo there is a smile. It looks more like despair to me.
Between singing 'Stand up' and the trumpet, you could have been at an Ulster rugby game!
I really enjoyed the last 20 minutes. It was a real old-fashioned game then - long throws, Terry Butcher bandannas, two arms up for a corner (have players stopped doing that these days?), proper sliding tackles, hoofs clear, pump it long into the box.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
No skill at all on show bar Bale of course, but feck it, skill isn't necessarily required for entertainment.
The first 70 minutes were utterly dire of course, and if we do go to the World Cup, it'll be as a team who are killing football.
We could have won that. McGeady demonstrated why he should have started. I thought Whelan was okay and I thought Meyler and Hendrick were poor and I think that's the root of the result.
But, honestly, I'm utterly gutted about Coleman. The only positive is I don't think anyone in our squad would be as incredibly diligent about their recovery. The man is an inspirational character in every aspect and demonstrates some of the most honorable traits a man can e.g.Work ethic, honesty, loyalty, passion... I could be here for the day. I hope so much that he comes back as quick as possible and as recovered as possible.
Was the trumpet pumped through the P.A.?
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There was a microphone in front of the band, so yep, relayed around the ground.
The fake cheering at half time was almost as bad.
On a separate note, I missed who took over as captain after Coleman went off. Was it Whelan? (I presume Coleman started as captain, but I only got to the ground at kick off, and didn't even notice until half-time that McCarthy had failed a late fitness test)
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Originally Posted by Fixer82
Yes, and it was getting progressively louder as the night went on. It was horrendous in so many ways.
I had assumed it was O'Shea. He seemed to take over leadership duties somewhat anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
yes. unbelievable really. i felt like leaving i was so annoyedQuote:
Originally Posted by Fixer82
That's embarrassing. Bring back the bell, all is forgiven
Ledley has just issued a statement defending himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/footb...heads-testing/
I knew it reminded me of something, when Ronaldo got caught winking and smiling to the Portuguese bench after contriving to get Rooney sent off.
You have to give him the benefit of the doubt in these situations but you can understand a backlash in the heat of the moment.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Whelan has no mobility. In fairness to him he does hit a nice pass, but he is as slow as molasses at times. I can see from the original poster's point of view that he is possibly seeing that Whelan's passes mostly found their targets, but it's what he doesn't give you which hurts. Had McGeady or Conor Hourihane been in his shoes I think we may just have seen a different outcome.Quote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
McGeady is more apt to get past a player and whip a cross in than Walters. The counter argument is that Walters is needed for graft.
How many times was Coleman exposed on the right hand side again?
The Georgia game in particular, too, if I'm not mistaken, they had the beating of us on that side for the guts of 30 minutes.
How bad must McGeady be at grafting?
Think we missed a trick with this team selection and slowness to make substitutions again, a bugbear of mine when it comes to MON.
Is Arnautovic suspended for the June game?
Now that you bring up Walters. I think we can do better in the forward line. John would be a nice addition coming of the bench in the final 20/25 minutes, but as a starting striker he is as immobile as Whelan at times. I know he is a fan favorite but he doesn't have the legs for a full 90 at international level imho. We need a forward who can hold the ball up and bring others into the play. The options are (in tandem) Long and McGeady, Long and McClean, Long and Murphy (although he's in a very similar mould to Walters in terms of mobility), Long and Horgan? It's something the manager has to work on.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Hopefully. It would be a big loss for them if he was. That game now takes on added significance and the good part is that we should have all our injured players (minus Seamie) back.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Just to confirm Mark, Arnautovic is suspended for the next game.
Did anyone else notice Williams appearing to have a go at Taylor after the Coleman tackle?
That's what it looked like from my vantage point.
Didn't notice that about Williams, but fair play to him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Regarding Austria game - if we beat them we're right back on track. Anything other than a win condemns them to also rans. Similar situation for Wales, they need to avoid defeat in Zagreb.
Just watched it back. Taylor's tackle happened at 68.11. Play resumed 71.56. There were four subs but only one of them (McGeadys) stopped play. Two during Coleman's treatment and one at HT.Quote:
Originally Posted by backstothewall
Four minutes was probably fair but he could have stretched it to five.
Anyone know if Taylor could face a retrospective ban similar to what Dele Alli received in the Europa League?
O'Shea, Whelan, McCarthy and Walters relieved from squad. No reinforcements..
That's to be expected with O'Shea picking up a knock, Whelan's facial injury and McCarthy's setback.
A bit baffling as to why Long and Doyle are the only strikers and Christie and Ward are only full backs available but we are getting used to nonsense like this.
Belgrade rather.Quote:
Originally Posted by mark12345
I don't think he did. From the TV footage, Williams goes straight to the referee to protest the sending off.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
He argues his case for awhile then goes and stands over Coleman while he is being put on the stretcher.
Stefan Ilsanker too, their defensive midfield regular playing for Red Bull Leipzig. I personally think Austria won't have the bottle for DublinQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOneWhoKnocks
Not a bad start. And if we have all of our injured lads back then no reason why we can't win this game. It would appear that Austria didn't have too much bottle in facing Moldova yesterday. One of those victories which would have been greeted like a defeat in the local press.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrapAPony
When they went down to 10 men, he should have switched meyler to right full and brought on Mc Geady at that stage and really went for the jugular. I fear we may live to regret that. Anyway let's hope Seamus gets back on his feet as soon as possible
I think Whelan is getting a rough ride here from folks. What he does well, he did really well last night. He kept the ball and kept us ticking over. I think Hendrick was far less effective and didn't provide much of an outlet. McClean was fantastic (didn't realize he was so one footed though) and I thought Walters worked his socks off defensively and supported Long well (although they take up the same positions in an attacking sense). Our back 4 did well overall - Christie showed a little naivety when we were pushing forward, trying to go outside too often although he did win a couple of corners.
Kudos to the Wales player who put a block on McCleans second volley that took it the wrong side of the post - it was flying in. Whelan showed good intelligence to cushion the header over to McClean for the first shot in that sequence.
Happy with the point in the grand scheme but also disappointed we left two points behind us.
I think we realised how much we (and the football world) love Coleman last night. I hope we can win this group for him.
Daniel Taylor of the Guardian reported the following in relation to Neil Taylor:
There's absolutely no way he was smiling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniel Taylor
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