Was supposedly offered a deal in October but turned it down looking for a deal in England if rumours are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
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Was supposedly offered a deal in October but turned it down looking for a deal in England if rumours are true.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Left back and centre back better be arriving soon. Why we had a right back on trial I'll never know.
That's martinQuote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Most of what I read about the Austrian trialist has him as a midfielder. Couldn't find any report of him playing in a defensive position.
Martins replacement will be tied down to a new contract soon at his club. Russell hasn't a clue. Turner has to start RIGHT WING v sligo. We have to get crosses into Tozi. Why did they retain him. Clueless, spineless, im waiting for his son to come back
Let's not get madly worked up over a friendly tbf. Think it's a bit unfair to Shaun Kelly and Ian Turner that they have barely played in their actual positions during pre season Shaun looks so uncomfortable at left back and the lad that was on trial played his entire time on the pitch at right back didn't look anywhere near Shauns level tbh.
Switched to 3 at the back for a bit in second half its my second time see us try it and the second time the lads looked like they had never trained a day in their life at it were all over the shop for a few mins.Whoever the lad was throwing stick at Martin over it would wanna give his head a shake though it's pre season ffs it's exactly the time to do this kinda thing.
Need to get good delivery into the box for Tosi to make an impact scoring wise just hasn't happened yet in pre season.Will still be excited about the season ahead if we get the LB and CB and they are good standard but they have to come this week too late to be signing em with no friendlies at all left.
True its only a friendly. But i just saw the goals. Three at the back for a russell team is suicide. Hope by not winning any friendlys hes tricking us into lowering our expectations
I'd agree that its better to try these things now and see they don't work.
Russell's never been renowned for his defences, that's not going to suddenly change. I'm hoping he and others haven't been blinded by the ease Limerick were scoring at times last year. We won't be putting three past the opposition in the last 20 minutes this season.
We conceded 26 goals in 28 games last season against, in the main, shockingly poor teams.
Without improvement (and at the moment, the defence is probably even worse) we will get massacred.
We've won 3 of the 5 friendlies we played.Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
Pat confirmed there is a new investor in an interview with Live 95 too its been shared on the Blue Army Facebook page.
100% fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
Will wait and see what we have coming in this week I just hope there quality defender's
Quality defenders and one player (Robbie) to take responsibility for organising them. Saw the two goals last night and lack of organisation looked like a big factor.
Ahhh the army, ballamanard reserves dont count. Who was the thirdQuote:
Originally Posted by bluewhitearmy
Why don't they count?Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
Limerick 2-1 Defence Forces
Ballinamallard 0-4 Limerick
Cobh 0-2 Limerick
Drogheda 1-1 Limerick
Galway 2-1 Limerick
What you'd be hoping for at the start of preseason would have been defenders good enough to just ignore Russell and do a job among themselves.
What we got was Tony whitehead and some lad Russell saw play five years ago.
Martin Russell has.not been signing our players since before xmas. As frustrating as it will be for the fans (not to mention pathetic considering they could have let him go in November) if a couple of good quality defenders don't appear you can take it the board have decided to give him enough rope....
First half when we had out a somewhat proper 11 we were the better team tbh we could be very very good going forward if we can get Tosi involved nearer to goal but him Lee J and Ogbene are forming a good link already it seems. Problems only really came when we tried the 3 at the back and made the changes. Hery is overweight but looks like there is actually a good player in there if we can get him fit and if he is anyway interested then Joe will. Really hope we get the 2 positions filled before the Waterford game so we can see what it would be like with Kelly at right back and Turner on the wing. Stephen Kenny has been quite good so far in pre season was very good lastnight.
https://www.live95fm.ie/on-air/shows...r-limerick-fc/
Interview with POS this morning looking for 3 more players says if we get them it will take a good team to finish ahead of us :)
We get something like this every year so I'm sure people will be wary of it but great news that a new investor is on board and we are actually only 2 players away from being decent now.Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas72
There does look to be more substance to it this time though, and I don't mind waiting a year or three for the league title so long as we are solid and improving ;) anyhow. Nice steady build with a death grip on it once we get there rather than a boom bust job.
Paudie O'Connor is surely better served trying to be part of this.
Considering his age you would have thought so. Cream always rises to the top so if he is good enough he will get his chance in the future.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
Martin Russell is definitely not the best manager for a young up and coming defender, Russell wants way too much passing from the backs, something a defender should just whack the ball to safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
People will think I'm mad but Kanyuka was a fine defender when he first arrived at Limerick, a no nonsense defender who did the simple things and cleared his lines, Russell tried to coach that out of Kanyuka and you could see he wasn't comfortable tipsy tapping around in front of his own goal, if Russell just left him play his own game Limerick would not have got relegated!
Don't agree with that at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
Kanyuka was just rubbish, full stop. His penalties and red card and goals given away all came from him just being rubbish. The goal he have away in Ballybofey had nothing to do with coaching, just poor positioning and decision-making.
Ok maybe I am mad but I think Kanyuka did the job first few games, I suppose nothing special but big strong awkward (I don't remember him committing too many fouls earlier on either) he could header and stick a boot in, I definitely remember his fcuk ups towards the end of season as he deteriorated quickly became he was that second or two too slow because all of a sudden he now has to be a "footballer" which he wasn't, sorry but however crap he was when he first arrived he was way way worse all round by seasons end because Russell insisted on him taking a touch, stop and play straight to a teammate, all easy in training I suppose but you could see him losing any bit of confidence he had he should have been used as a big fcuk off no nonsense defender, simple!Quote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
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Originally Posted by blueblood
pretty low bar your setting out from to think Kanyuka was anyway good. I rem the night both he and Freddy played against MK Dons and they were given a standing ovation by the fans such was the poor show we had from an unfit Russell team for the first 21 games without a win in our Martin Russell relegation year 1
It might have been a low bar but we did go on an incredible run when he first came into the team and you could definitely see him get progressively worse the more games he played. His first few games he just won headers and cleared the ball, simple defending. Blueblood is right, as soon as he started trying to play any kind of football he went completely downhill and was awful by the end.
Thank you jofspring I was starting to doubt myself ha ha,Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Anyway back to the original point and that's Paudie would be better off being coached by a different manager who can see how to get the best out of him and not coaching the good stuff out of him.
But surely a defender who can win headers and hoof the ball is of limited use to a footballing team, as Russell's side always are. It's great having a defender who can deal with a team who lump the ball up or who don't have great forward play, like Rovers under Fenlon, but a guy who does that and then fires the ball up for Dean Clarke to get beaten in the air isn't helping a huge amount. Your ideal would be a guy who has great basics and can pass it out from the back, but those are relatively few at this level.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
Kanyucka was an abortion and I said so to anyone who would listen about ten minutes into his debut against mk dons. His legs were about three seconds slower than his mind and his mind was about three minutes slower than the average mind. Also he had no bones in his neck which meant he couldn't head the ball.
Watch his performance against Sligo. Dear Lord, just look at it!
Even during the great run we were conceding seven goals a game so I'm not buying this rough diamond Martin ruined stuff. He was a hate crime plain and simple.
Paudies technique (among other things) needs to improve about 1000% if he wants to make it across the water.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
You could hurl a bag of **** into any bar in central London and it would burst over at least two fellas who are as good with the ball as paudie o connor.
As he is he could probably spoof a career in Ireland like a gavin peers or an alan keane but does anybody really think anyone in the uk would be interested in him?? If so let him know cos he's spent the last three months looking.
Surely somebody asked Martin last night on signings defensive signings more to the point?
Apparently 4 trialists to play tonight.
Am I the only one thinking its a bit late in the day to have trialists? I thought we were signing 3 players not bringing in a few trialists a week before the season starts to see how they get on.Quote:
Originally Posted by LK37oldskool
I suppose if their not from LOI you'd have to look at them in a match setting. By Limerick standards getting players in a week before kick off is a major achievement.
Ya I agree you need some level of caution but it's when Pat says we are bringing in 3 quality players that will make us hard to beat and that turns into trialists, you'd get suspicious of their actual quality. Hopefully they are decent cause we will be a very strong team with a good back 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by LK37oldskool
Tbf though Tosi was a trialist and if he used properly he is gonna be a top signing.No matter what the quality of a player I think you need to see how he clicks in the team too I know Martin sees that as very important and it has led to anyone you talk to thats been around it commenting on how good a dressing room we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofspring
Yes these defenders are few in this league anyway and sometimes you can't teach an old dog new tricks so he shouldn't have been forced to try pass the ball around the back kamikaze style, I'd rather he put the ball out of the ground at times instead of that nail biting stuff that did cost us a lot of goals since 2013 season it's just stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I missed th mk dons game but he didn't look bad for a few league games after that and he was useless by the end of the season because he was told to pass the ball at all costs but he was never that kind of player with us, for the record I don't think Paudie is a fella I like passing around the back either, with some defenders you should know their limits and don't try fore them to do something that will cost the team over and over again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lim till i die
I see what you are trying to say but the amount of basic basic stuff he got wrong as a defender was shocking and that is nothing to do with being asked to pass it round the back.Had he cost us goals by a pass being intercepted or taking a bad touch and losing the ball then fair enough but off the top of my head the pen he gave away in Sligo the 2 open goals in the first Harps game and Harps goal in the second Harps game were all awful defending and nothing to do with passing a ball anywhere.I mean I think everyone involved including Martin would have been just fine if he had bust the ball kicking out for touch for that Harps goal instead he made a complete mess of something basic.Had he been dropped for the second Harps game and Paudie played I think we would never have been relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by blueblood
Fair enough bluewhitearmy but I honestly think he was good when he first arrived did the basics right but by the end he did nothing right and I think that comes down to nerves or hesitating or something trying to do something that doesn't come naturally,
anyway some fellas like Paudie don't suite Russell because they're not good enough to play out from the back every time he might learn but in the premier with Limerick could do him more harm than good.