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super you should know what im on about in fairness,the aul just gave him the job again and that was it.do you know any one else that wanted it.i never gave the impression that i ever wanted it ,but i have always said and always will say that the aul job should go to someone that isnt manageing ateam or especially one from another league.two years and they have gone backwards .give someone else a go.
Shetland, you are starting to sound like a child. I think we can judge Niall on this year. Nobody expects a manager to come in a win straight off, it takes time. It was a hard enough start for him 2 years ago taking over a team that had just won the tournament. Hold your comments until may next year, and let's get behind the team starting now.
dixie a child is it,cop on. this is my last time saying this.do you think in all fairness that a man who manages a muster senior league team,can do a hudered per cent job on the cork aul team.the answer is no. two years is more than enough.the aul took the easy way out. the best way forward is to advertise the position at the agm .see who is available to do it and either get clubs to vote on who they want ,or pick someone that will give it his all. does money come into it i wonder. i hope not especially with the missing 100 thousand euro.
I dont think that giving the job to someone who isnt involved in management is going to help either tho is it.Fair enough their are good ex managers around but do you think they would want to manage a team made up of players from various clubs that they wouldnt even know. I doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by shetland
Shetland, you are taking me up wrong. I don't mind your opinion you are entitled to it. But you said ".give someone else a go." that sounds a bit childish. The last 2 years are in the past! Let's look forward to a successful year!Quote:
Originally Posted by shetland
There is no doubt that Cobh have a quality side & I expect them to get promoted this year but the simple facts are that Springers are a Premier A side. The most ye were going to get on the team was 2 so I wouldn't feel too hard done by. Don't think I am saying for 1 minute that yer players are not good enough. There are players down there that should be playing at a higher level but you can say that about all the top teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by bellavistaman
Look lets be fair here. Leeside had 6 players on the team last year so you can't say Leeside don't get a fair look in. Actually ye had 7 so you can't moan about it. At the end of the day ye finished 3rd when people thought ye would seriously challenge. Condon has left & so has Colin Keane so to get 3 called up isn't really that much of shock. Wilton have 6 & are in the same position as ye last year where people think they are the favourites plus the fact they signed Keith Holden, Alan Healy & Jason Keegan so are things really that unfair?Quote:
Originally Posted by thebooboys
no bother dixie i may have takeing you up wrong,but to get the best possible team out to represent the league you must be able to go out and see the players you want in their match situations.,he cant do that as bandon have a game on saturday and thats when a lotof the aul games are played.i bet there a lot of ex managers who would jump at the chance to manage the a.ul team,and im not one of them..fail to prepare and prepare to fail thats what i say ,ringing around and asking this fella to send that fella etc etc joke joke joke. the league manager should be in place at start of season and at games every week.there is one leeside player who has hardly played or trained this year on the panel.were you not one of o reagans side kicks last year or am i wrong ,dixie.hense the loyalty.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dixie's Cousin
lads in fairness colin keane played more games with the aul then he played with leeside, after his christmas transfer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie Darko
Look I agree with people who say that the manager shouldn't be involved with another team especially a team not in the AUL. The manager should IMO been unattached so he can attend as many games as possible but it's not the case so what can we do? There was obviously not a lot of interest in the position even though every year posters on here say to each other to put their names forward, yet they don't. Then everyone goes mad when Niall is given the job. From what I have heard of him, either by speaking to players or other coaches he is a very good coach & passionate about the game. This is obvious by the amount of teams he is involved with. At the end of the day the 11 that represent the AUL team in the cross will be strong & should be too strong for the MSL Jun side. By saying that, they are by no means as strong as what Limerick or Dublin are going to be. I think it's actually a good thing that they play Tipp away because there's no pressure on them. Everyone will expect them to be beaten anyway so for me it will benefit the team. When they played Tipp last year & lost everyone was so quick to come on this & slag them off when, if you were at the game would admit the AUL should have went it at half time winning. So let’s have our opinions without rubbishing players etc & support them. Plus I'm sure there will be a lot of players come & go on this squad over the next few weeks before the game. As for Niall, instead of saying this & that about him on here about players who are good enough, I suggest ringing him & suggesting a player for him to look at. From what I heard he would be happy to let him train if you feel that strongly about the player.
Shetland, totally agree. Was just making a point that they had been well represented.Quote:
Originally Posted by shetland
You are right Shetland, i was part of the setup last season and I watched many games for Niall. As did Kieran Tagney and Eoin Fehily. I don't know who is helping this year but with the Senior league starting weeks after the AUL start maybe Niall got to a few matches to get an idea of his setup.
Do I sense a hint of sour grapes that you aren't the aul manager?..let's be honest though could hardly give it to a manager who helped fold an entire clubQuote:
Originally Posted by shetland
More sour grapes?.the lad moved on to better himself.must have did well for leeside to get in the aul teamQuote:
Originally Posted by shetland
Be it Niall O Reagen or whoever is helping him out this year they should get to more games and especially outside of Premier starting this weekend with Casement and Douglas Hall. With Casement Seniors folding this year there will be no fewer then 7 players who would be still playing Senior First Division had the Club got its act together. Even if 1 player was good enough (which there is and more) then it was a worthwhile trip out. I bet if the 7 players im talking about went to Wilton Kinsale etc etc then there would be at least 5 of them on it....
Whose moaning??? If I had my way I wouldnt want any of our players called up, thats just my opinion. Plus as someone else alluded to, Colin Keane rarely played with us after his transfer from BallyvolaneQuote:
Originally Posted by Donnie Darko
I think that's you moaning right there is it not? make up your mind Boo, 1 minute there's 2 or 3 who deserve to be on it, the next you don't want any of your players on it. It's hard to please some people but what can you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by thebooboys
Take off your blinkers there Southsider. So 7 players played msl 1st division last year? Does that make them fantastic players? I'm sure any of the top players in the AUL prem would easily play MSL prem. A lot of the top players have been asked or have made the switch to Msl or vice versa. Look at Condon, went from Leeside to Rockmount (the champions of the MSL prem) so what your saying is rubbish. There is ex MSL 1 & 2 players in all AUL divisions, should they all be called up? I have no doubt that there are good players playing with your team but at the end of the day you have got to be realistic & understand, the majority of the AUL team will come from the top 2 leagues because they are playing at the highest standard in AUL but I'm sure if these players perform consistently then they will be recognised as were the Corkbeg lads last year.Quote:
Originally Posted by Southsider
inishvilla lads were on the squad last year when they romped division 2 last year. heard a rumour tonight that 1 of them is on his way to bandon. now that would cause some controversey. anyway niall is the manager this year so just lets row in behind him. even if we dont agree with the selection process etc etc.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie Darko
Exactly, that's why I mentioned the Corkbeg lads. Sure Jack Walsh remained on the squad only for injury, that's why I said if players are playing well on a weekly basis then word of mouth will spread & they will get their chance. How strong is the rumour?Quote:
Originally Posted by six-yard-box
sure we'll know by saturday if its true or not as tomorrow is deadline day..
Instead of complaining about the Cork AUL side and Niall like a broken record, why not try help a little. The guy is willing to take the time to manage the team and try organize a squad. As a previous poster said, who in here would take the job ????...very little id say. Shetland i think we all know where u stand with the choice of management but hes the man in charge and all the arguing in the world is not going to change that.
So would i be right in saying if Niall has posted the squad on his face book page, then would it be possible if managers in the AUL that have players that are worth a look, they/we could email the names to help the man out ?? Obviously a limit of 2 maybe 3 players. At least he would have a list of players put forward by the managers for him and his team to have a look at.
Just an idea. Horse ?
Lets give him a chance. After all he is representing our AUL leagues.
Shetland, i have two words for you......SPELL CHECK.
"Do I sense a hint of sour grapes that you aren't the aul manager?..let's be honest though could hardly give it to a manager who helped fold an entire club"
Now here is a turn up for the books. Didnt think i'd say this ever so here it goes . Chiefscout i agree with you 100% haha
check your facts chief scout he was on aul panel before he joinedQuote:
Originally Posted by Chiefscout
leeside.
help fold a club ,more like keep a club going for a long time .,and for haveing to put up with the likes of you who didnt last to long.Quote:
Originally Posted by freddieflinston
i have or never had any interest in the job,but i know 1 or two that might have been interested,.ballyvolane by the way folded because it just became too hard for one or two people to run on their own. it was there for anyone to take it over if they wanted too.simple as that.
Chiefscout i think that is well below the belt to say a fella helped fold a club!! i dont know him but i say he was involved with that club for many many years done everyhing he could and kept it going with 1 or 2 others as long as they could, I say when you try run a club with very little resources and do what he done, then you can throw a comment at him!!
Donnie i think you read Booboys post a bit wrong first time, he wasnt moaning, just pointing out the fact that we can all say we have players in our clubs who should be on it, so i say have a proper think before you let your fingers do the talking!! For the Leeside representives last season, yes we had 6 at the start and went to 7 when colin keane joined at xmas, as said earlier he prob played more minutes for AUL than leeside!! As for people watching games for Niall, I say there was not many keeping their eyes on the games, Alec Nodwell prob 1 of the top few wingers in the AUL in past 2 seasons was given 10min in a challenge Aul game at full back, now seeing that you where 1 of his right hand men last year can you explain that?? Oh by the way how come you havent been asked to watch any game sfor him this year?????
what has spell check to do with it owl.you know me from your time at ballyvolane and i call it as i see it. a lot of posters here agree a change was needed.snide remarks about folding clubs and sour grapes have nothing to do with it. clubs dont seem to have any say anymore. best of luck in premier a too by the way.
thanks bluey.,and for what its worth totally agree with you about alex nodwell ,he is a class act .in last few years in matches against him he broke our hearts,a brilliant winger with a eye for goal.i also chiefscout think that your comment is way out line for someone who also jumped ship from grattan last year when going got tough,am i right.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluey
Only saying as I see it same as you but seems your the only person allowed do that!!!..difference between our situation is grattan are still going,and you should stop having a pop at players that can't get on here to defend themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by shetland
Down with this sort of thing
You at it again Donnie Darko..?? Everybody knows what he means by there could be 6 or 7 and that he would prefer if no one was on it. The players would only have to concentrate on 1 team not 2.. Looks like you just trying the start an argument. Boo I've seen Ye play many a time and Ye could dominate the aul team with the players Ye have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donnie Darko
Bluey, Nodwell was at most training sessions and I would having him in the squad no problem. But it was down to Niall at the end of the day. I'm not watching matches for Niall this season simply because I don't have the time. I've moved on from the AUL and totally focused on my new club. We can harp on all day about the wrong appointment, when I look at Ireland I don't think Trapp is the right manager but as soon as the boys in Green put on that jersey I don't care, all i do is shout on my team.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluey
if its colin your refering to i wasnt having a pop at him,have great time for him actually ,i brought him to the clubQuote:
Originally Posted by Chiefscout
..all i said is that he didnt play much with leeside when he left thats all ,,for whatever reasons.
But yet the lad played with the aul team so what's the big deal.don't see why you should even bring the young fellas name into the argument ye were having.I don't know the young fella besides from playing but don't see your logic in picking on a fella that has moved onto better himself..that's all I'm sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by shetland
Are these not the best players availabe?? id say 98% of these names deserve to be there thats the fact of the matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by freddieflinston
Shetland, are you saying i jumped ship from Grattan last year? or ChiefScout?Quote:
Originally Posted by shetland
odd's for the premier league..
kinsale 5/4
wilton 7/4
leeside 5/2
knockavilla,greenwood,coachford 8/1
blarney st,killumney 10/1
park 16/1
macroom 33/1...
shetland your like a broken record the last two years,we no ya don't like the manager we all get the hint so can ya please shut up about it since i put it nicely..