What was he supposed to say? Yeah I'm playing for Ireland U-21 right now mate but if England call me up, I'm gonna play for them innit.
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What was he supposed to say? Yeah I'm playing for Ireland U-21 right now mate but if England call me up, I'm gonna play for them innit.
I think it's unfair to compare the weight of your deceased Grandfather's dying wishes, vitriolic weekly abuse and complete and utter ambivalence from Giovanni Trapattoni to whatever existential crisis Jack is going through.
I think it's unfair that you clearly were born without a sense of humour or an inability to read most of what is written before jumping to conclusions.
My post was a direct attack on the paranoia and murmurings of the Irish Fan (not irishfan86, he seems sound enough) and that if you were to realise that even when there's nothing to worry about we still find something to worry about. This is why I directed you to the Jimmy Mac thread as an example of what Foot.ie and it's denizens are capable of.
Well, no. He would only say that if your presumption that he is lying to us is correct. Another possibility is that he didn't state he'll play for England because he has no plans to do so. At the minute, he states he's focused on Ireland and it'll remain so so long as he's enjoying it.
I was on a stag with a few Liverpool Irish and none of them care in any shape or form about England. There are many like kilbane and more I meet like that than not
its funny the Irish born lads were the ones wanting to and watching the englanf game.these lads never even bothered to watch it!! I think a lot of Irish secretly love watching England.
I'll see your Steven Gerrard, Wayne Rooney and Steve McManaman and raise you Jon Walters, Jason McAteer and Lee Trundle.
I might be reading too much into the tweet, but I think he wants to wish his father a happy father's day.
You're such a bellend.
Just like my young lad. Loves his dad (I think), follows Ireland but wants England to win the World Cup.
Supporting England - even during Euro 2012 - isn't what ****es me off most and it's naïve to think that.
What is it that's annoying you now then?
Aside from the fact that he supported England when the team that he is currently playing for were playing in International competition? The fact that he won't declare his allegiance to Ireland or England and is seemingly going to make the call based on how his club career pans out. Whatever criticisms or motivations you can level at Paul Green or Simon Cox, at least a decision is made and over with. How does it feel in hindsight knowing that the likes of Dan Crowley, Will Keane and Michael Keane took squad places and opportunities away from people who actually wanted to play for their country?
I think it's a joke to be quite frank but sure nevermind... I'm just a bellend.
I think you ended up on the wrong forum. It's OWC you must have been looking for...
that doesnt annoy me what annoys me is that the people on here are acting like it doesnt matter what he says on his twitter or does he will stilll be playing for ireland.
Its as clear as the light of day if he gets a call up for the senior england squad he will take it.
I hear Rory McIlroy has declared for Ireland.
Declared he had nothing to declare, the GUI is both parts of the islands. He was just reaffirming that, if he had declared it would have been a switch of allegiance to GB, he took his time so as not to offend "the other side". But anyone who knows anything and supports golf on the island of ireland will not be offended by this as its always been the case.
That's resolved it, clarity has now been established and Grealish is settled on the track to our senior squad.
I don't think anyone has said anything is certain in relation to this matter. Other than yourself and TOWK perhaps, who assure us that Grealish is a master of deceit. I'd rather remain rational and not lapse into paranoia. If he switches, he switches - that's his choice - but at this point, he's indicated he wants to continue playing for us. I'd like to take him at face value and give him the benefit of the doubt. If he does change his mind at some point, fair enough, it'll be an unfortunate loss and I can wish him farewell, but there's no way anyone can know for certain what will happen right now.
The joke will be on all of us when he winds up switching to Scotland. We're doomed, etc.
Wow.
http://www.sterlingcareerconcepts.co...ayer_photo.jpg
And... it's... outta here!
He has already received and rejected what amounts to an invite to join the English underage set up and at a time when he was being peed around a bit by us.
Now we have certainties being expressed, that if he gets a call up to the English seniors then he'll be off.
That is a certainty of course because if he stays with Ireland, it will only be because he was certainly ignored by England and his devious strategy to grab attention by appearing not to be interested in their advances, failed. :rolleyes: I wonder why he didn't join them and if he failed to make the break through with England he could always settle for us?
So far, he's one of a select few of irish eligible players, who have rejected an invite to the English underage set up.
Poor old Will Keane was never in Irish squads and never therefor took away a young Irish boys dream. His conscience is clear. Dan crowley looks like a lovely footballer. Over on Big soccer on the english section some talk a few weeks back that he was switching back to us. Its in the thread discussing their under 17 euro win. Lots of kerry family it seems
I thought it was common knowledge that he turned down an offer to play for England U-17 because he was playing for Ireland U-18 at a higher level. I'm pretty sure both Jack and his brother have pointedly said that several times.
@ BonnieShels :stupid:
*if he's any good.
And even then it won't be out of the goodness of his heart.
Relax gastric. Stop getting so agitated. It isn't really that big a deal.
he said, after spending weeks and weeks of trying to convince people of how big a deal it really is
Did a bit of digging on Big Soccer and think I've found what you're referring to:
http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/...775615/page-96
I wonder was that Jerry Flannery whilst he was over with Arsenal? I'm obviously pretty clueless as to what other Irish people are on board over there.Quote:
I have seen one of arsenals fitness coaches (im not sure wtf he does actually) who's presumably spent a lot of time with Crowley this year, recently mention on twitter something along the lines that he'd convinced Crowley to play for Ireland. Annoying if true and if it had something to do with him leaving the England squad
EDIT: Bit of activity on Flannery's twitter with Crowley here:
https://twitter.com/jerryflannery/st...89753297281024
I can't find the tweet to which that chap is referring but, in fairness, much of what Flannery puts up on twitter is done so with his tongue absolutely welded to the inside of his cheek.
...and yet another passive aggressive comment.
Go back to page 22.
And I'm not trying to convince anyone it's a big deal because, frankly, I don't think Jack is a big deal! I think England aren't as worried about losing him as some people make them out to be, or else they would make more of a concerted effort to get him in their setup; give him more guarantees. I don't think he's our great white hope either.
If he turns it on in the Premier League or Championship within the next several years, great, but in that event I think he will switch to England.
Hopefully he'll be good enough to play for both teams and choose Ireland but I doubt it - not out of paranoia but from his and Kevan's own words and body language.
I realise I ramble on sometimes (passionate) but I don't think that's a crime?! Don't get the hostility.
Here we go:
https://twitter.com/jerryflannery/st...06373449183232
Jerry saying "It's sorted." Some poor bugger got as paranoid as we do about Jack Grealish.