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21/02/2011, 3:02 AM
Dunny

Magicme you are welcome to Oriel when we play Seanies team. Just dont bring a petrol canister ;)
21/02/2011, 11:26 AM
Jofspring

Looks like we'll have to wait another day. Decision on Limerick to be made today but the FAI said no announcement till tomorrow for whatever reason.
21/02/2011, 12:04 PM
harpin

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Originally Posted by Jofspring

Looks like we'll have to wait another day. Decision on Limerick to be made today but the FAI said no announcement till tomorrow for whatever reason.

Disgraceful
21/02/2011, 12:29 PM
Sam_Heggy

so we have another day of waiting re:fixtures too?

The season starts on Friday week ffs.
21/02/2011, 12:32 PM
Magicme

You sound annoyed and shocked Sammy boy.
21/02/2011, 12:36 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Magicme

You sound annoyed and shocked Sammy boy.

Not easy if we're trying to get sorted for a trip to Cork.

I suggest shocked is an exaggeration also, slightly surprised would be closer to the mark.
21/02/2011, 12:39 PM
Magicme

I've given up on planning for the season. Just gonna show up randomly places and cheer whatever team I feel like. So disillusioned that all the good is gone from loi for me.
21/02/2011, 12:41 PM
legendz

They should keep the first week of fixtures as they are and make any changes for later in the season.
21/02/2011, 12:44 PM
Spudulika

G.u.b.u.
21/02/2011, 12:44 PM
pineapple stu

Galway up's a balls-up?

We know that.
21/02/2011, 12:46 PM
PartySaint

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Originally Posted by Magicme

I've given up on planning for the season. Just gonna show up randomly places and cheer whatever team I feel like. So disillusioned that all the good is gone from loi for me.

I think the FAI has been taken over by Vince Mcmahon, One team is on the pitch waiting to see who they are playing then the lights go out the music starts and Sean Conor just runs in and hits everyone with a stone cold stunner before downing 6 beers and getting the hell out of there
21/02/2011, 1:01 PM
Dodge

[QUOTE=Magicme;1456092So disillusioned that all the good is gone from loi for me.[/QUOTE]
So clubs surviving is a cause for you to become disillusioned? How bizarre...

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Originally Posted by legendz

They should keep the first week of fixtures as they are and make any changes for later in the season.

The bye week for First division clubs is the problem. WHole fixture list needs re-arranging.

Unless Limerick don't get the lilcense, in which case; probelm solved.
21/02/2011, 1:12 PM
Magicme

No dodge it was the handling of the situation and the fact that some clubs can have rules bent for them while others are expected to ensure they use the right brand if milk in the refs tea or get punished.
21/02/2011, 1:17 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Magicme

No dodge it was the handling of the situation and the fact that some clubs can have rules bent for them while others are expected to ensure they use the right brand if milk in the refs tea or get punished.

What clubs have had rules bent for them? Specific answers please, and not just 'speculation' either.
21/02/2011, 1:19 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by Magicme

No dodge it was the handling of the situation and the fact that some clubs can have rules bent for them while others are expected to ensure they use the right brand if milk in the refs tea or get punished.

Donegal Creameries Milk obviously. It's the brand of teabag where the debate gets heated, we almost got turned down for suggesting Tesco Brands Jumbo pack but were given 5 days to return with Barry's tea. Close call.
21/02/2011, 1:23 PM
Magicme

Ok, Galway: two new pieces of evidence provided at appeal despite rules clearly stating no new evidence is allowed.

Drogheda: premier licence granted for a stadium that doesn't meet criteria for years now.

Bray: stadium that is clearly in breach of health and safety for 2 years is passed yet again with out conditional licence but they are given time to knock walls and put in new fencing to comply.

Bohs: not able to pay players....again.
21/02/2011, 1:27 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by John83

I'm inclined to be cynical and say that it's a clear sign of the truth about the efficiencies we were supposed to get from the civil service in return for the massive pay hikes over the past twenty years. Probably someone will eat my head off for it though.

I agree, it's all the public services fault that Galway left it until the very last days possible to come to an agreement with Revenue, over the debt they has built up over the year since the last cert, in order to get new tax clearance. There's no finer example of why benchmarking was wrong - GUFC are the perfect example from the private sector on how to do things properly. Could the revenue not have sent it out on a DVD FFS!
21/02/2011, 1:29 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Ok, Galway: two new pieces of evidence provided at appeal despite rules clearly stating no new evidence is allowed.

They didn't provide new evidence. They asked that the confirmation they had in place adn the fact it was the FAI's fault be taken into consideration. Fine with me

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Drogheda: premier licence granted for a stadium that doesn't meet criteria for years now.

They installed about 1,500 seats last year so the 'for years now' comment is redundant. United park is fine

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Bray: stadium that is clearly in breach of health and safety for 2 years is passed yet again with out conditional licence but they are given time to knock walls and put in new fencing to comply.

Ah would you stop?

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Bohs: not able to pay players....again.

Where does licensing deal with this?
21/02/2011, 1:31 PM
Sam_Heggy

I know the seated part of United Park was sorted but, was there not something about the dimensions of the pitch and the wall around the pitch?
Only curious here btw.
21/02/2011, 1:38 PM
marinobohs

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Originally Posted by Macy

I agree, it's all the public services fault that Galway left it until the very last days possible to come to an agreement with Revenue, over the debt they has built up over the year since the last cert, in order to get new tax clearance. There's no finer example of why benchmarking was wrong - GUFC are the perfect example from the private sector on how to do things properly. Could the revenue not have sent it out on a DVD FFS!

.......Hello, is that Joe Duffy ? it is, well Joe... imagine, Revenue in Galway do not have the resources to immediately issue a certificate of clearance to GUFC and as for those wasters in the Dept of Sport, culture and other stuff we pretend to care about (to give it its official title) - cant drop everything and facilitate Bohs latest loan scheme (this is the final one, honest.). What public service I ask ?
I blame it all on Bertie..... and the unions.....and..and..it would be different in the private sector
21/02/2011, 1:42 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

.......Hello, is that Joe Duffy ? it is, well Joe... imagine, Revenue in Galway do not have the resources to immediately issue a certificate of clearance to GUFC and as for those wasters in the Dept of Sport, culture and other stuff we pretend to care about (to give it its official title) - cant drop everything and facilitate Bohs latest loan scheme (this is the final one, honest.). What public service I ask ?
I blame it all on Bertie..... and the unions.....and..and..it would be different in the private sector

Joe Duffy one of the licencing committee now?
21/02/2011, 1:48 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

I think the FAI has been taken over by Vince Mcmahon

http://www.threadbombing.com/data/me...honDancing.gif

You got NO CHANCE
21/02/2011, 1:49 PM
Magicme

Infract me dodge coz I clearly have been misinformed and revoke all previous statements.
21/02/2011, 1:51 PM
Lim till i die

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Unless Limerick don't get the lilcense, in which case; probelm solved.

Meanwhile, at Abbotstown:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscart...s/mlyn304l.jpg
21/02/2011, 1:57 PM
SkStu

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Infract me dodge.

oooh kinky... :)
21/02/2011, 2:01 PM
Dodge

Quote:

Originally Posted by Magicme

Infract me dodge coz I clearly have been misinformed and revoke all previous statements.

I'm not a mod here...
21/02/2011, 2:01 PM
Magicme

Stu, you made me :D for first time today.
21/02/2011, 2:05 PM
John83

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Originally Posted by Macy

I agree, it's all the public services fault that Galway left it until the very last days possible to come to an agreement with Revenue, over the debt they has built up over the year since the last cert, in order to get new tax clearance. There's no finer example of why benchmarking was wrong - GUFC are the perfect example from the private sector on how to do things properly. Could the revenue not have sent it out on a DVD FFS!

I figured you'd reply. Galway are a model club, I'll have you know. ;)

Seriously, the "de man who signs dat is on hol'days" defence is utterly contemptible.
21/02/2011, 2:07 PM
Magicme

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Originally Posted by Dodge

I'm not a mod here...

Oops further proof of my incompetence and stupidity. Nothing I say can be believed it seems.
21/02/2011, 2:09 PM
Dodge

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Originally Posted by John83

Seriously, the "de man who signs dat is on hol'days" defence is utterly contemptible.

Its the defence Bohs gave. It most certainly wasn't the defence they were given by the Department of Sport (etc), as can be seen by their reply in the Mail on Sunday

Revenue deal with 1000s of tax clearance certs a day. It doesn't require any individual.

Its unlikely to be the last time LOI clubs try to blame people other than themselves either
21/02/2011, 2:38 PM
Spudulika

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Originally Posted by Dodge

Its the defence Bohs gave. It most certainly wasn't the defence they were given by the Department of Sport (etc), as can be seen by their reply in the Mail on Sunday

Revenue deal with 1000s of tax clearance certs a day. It doesn't require any individual.

Its unlikely to be the last time LOI clubs try to blame people other than themselves either

Of course they will continue as that's the only reason the LOI exists, the fault of other people. If the GAA weren't so bad the LOI would be playing to full crowds in super modern arenas and challenging for continental honours. If it wasn't for the pesky owners/investors in clubs then all clubs would be fine as there would be money growing on trees. If it wasn't for those few hundred who go every week to England and Scotland to support "foreign" clubs LOI grounds would be bursting at the seams (not a shot at Bray). If it wasn't for the FAI the LOI would be flying, with innovative competitions, good regulation and no clubs going bust. And of course if it wasn't for the apathetic Irish public barstoolers then we'd be fine.

You've hit the nail on the head and especially about revenue - why is it that LOI clubs have a myriad of excuses that pass muster when it suits? It beggars belief.
21/02/2011, 2:46 PM
SupaJon

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Originally Posted by Magicme

Bray: stadium that is clearly in breach of health and safety for 2 years is passed yet again with out conditional licence but they are given time to knock walls and put in new fencing to comply.

Is that an opinion, or based on actual H&S reports?
21/02/2011, 2:52 PM
Sam_Heggy

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Originally Posted by SupaJon

Is that an opinion, or based on actual H&S reports?

There was basically a full thread on it at the end of last season, don't think it needs to be gone through any further at this stage.
21/02/2011, 2:55 PM
SupaJon

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Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

There was basically a full thread on it at the end of last season, don't think it needs to be gone through any further at this stage.

I joined here in March 2010.

I wasn't having a pop - I always thought the walls were a bit close to the pitch.
Just wondering if there were any H&S reports on it.
21/02/2011, 3:01 PM
Macy

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Originally Posted by John83

I figured you'd reply. Galway are a model club, I'll have you know. ;)

Seriously, the "de man who signs dat is on hol'days" defence is utterly contemptible.

Maybe he was on holidays or sick or whatever - it was Galways rush job not Revenue's, unless I've missed something that Revenue were actually "late" issuing the cert? There is enough genuine issues without adding to them with crap.
21/02/2011, 3:24 PM
WoodquayBoy

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Originally Posted by PartySaint

I think the FAI has been taken over by Vince Mcmahon, One team is on the pitch waiting to see who they are playing then the lights go out the music starts and Sean Conor just runs in and hits everyone with a stone cold stunner before downing 6 beers and getting the hell out of there

Ah, brings me back - I still vividly remember this, I think the line you are looking for is 40 seconds in
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y7mPX_q0LwM
21/02/2011, 3:28 PM
SkStu

Can you smellllllllllllllllllllllll what De-laneys cookin'?

(its usually fudge by the way)
21/02/2011, 3:30 PM
Sam_Heggy

ye do know that the wrestling and the Independent FAI Licencing committee are not real don't ye?
21/02/2011, 3:37 PM
osarusan

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Originally Posted by Macy

Maybe he was on holidays or sick or whatever - it was Galways rush job not Revenue's, unless I've missed something that Revenue were actually "late" issuing the cert? There is enough genuine issues without adding to them with crap.

Without knowing how far in advance Galway applied for it, it's hard to say whether it was a rush job or not (fair enough if you actually know when they applied, I don't).
21/02/2011, 3:37 PM
Lim till i die

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam_Heggy

ye do know that the wrestling and the Independent FAI Licencing committee are not real don't ye?

http://www.gifsoup.com/webroot/anima...s/177490_o.gif

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