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This is a lie regardless of how much whinging you get on with in the rest of your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtndvn
If they were clear why all the blather from Fran and John at the time.
If you have proof of this clarity show us. If not stop telling lies.
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Originally Posted by mrtndvn
http://www.irishtimes.com/newspaper/...270599758.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by mrtndvn
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The association has told Limerick the game cannot go ahead on the basis that it is prohibited under the terms of a contract it has with an agent from granting permission for games that might attract a crowd of more than 15,000 spectators.
Speaking yesterday, however, the association’s communications director, Peter Sherrard, confirmed the clubs had never actually been told of any such restriction. Rather, they are simply obliged to accept the association has a power of veto thanks to the sweeping nature of the licensing agreement which all clubs are forced to sign if they want to take part in the league.
disagree. from what i can gather, the fai had the power to veto an event that wasn't in the interest of the association or its member clubs. this friendly was obviously in the best interests of limerick, and i dont think any other fai club would begrudge them it. rather, most, if not all, would have been slightly green with envy.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtndvn
as for bending over backwards to help clubs? balls. they help out clubs from large population centres, or those they view as important to any sort of strategic development of the league, and let the rest twist in the wind. an inability to properly enforce THEIR OWN RULES has led to the common asterisk becoming a common sight on our league tables, and fudge becoming a staple part of a LoI supporter's diet. Yes the clubs aren't perfect, but quite a few are definitely trying and are moving in the right direction, only to see their efforts spat on.
And wasn't the original reason given that the match couldn't take part on the same day as a competitive match in Longford, or something? Until it was pointed out that the Shams - Madrid game, among others had happened at the same time as league games. And didn't Limerick offer to reduce the capacity of Thomond for the game, after which the FAI promptly revised the limit? And didn't someone connected with a club explicitly state that there was nothing in the participation agreement Limerick signed along the lines of what the FAI were claiming.
Doesn't sound clear to me.
i wish Limerick nothing but the best on this. They were shafted unmercifully by the FAI, particpation agreement or not. Tough situation for a club and its fans to find itself in. Whether it achieves anything or not remains to be seen i suppose.
I take objection however to claims by some limerick fan here that the FAI has bailed Bohs out.
Doh, thats what they are there for - ii is the Football Ass of Ireland:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by mrtndvn
And how much do they squander on the joke of a natioanl team?
You mean the national team that provides the vast majority of their revenue?Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Although the LOI could provide a significant chunk more revenue if it were properly managed and promoted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Not sure I would ever be promoting the LOI as possible money earner for the FAI :confused: (not inthe short/medium term at least) but the national Assosiation does have a responsibility to promote the LOI which they have often negleted. having said that as we all know clubs have often been their own worst enemy so FAI not quite the "bogeymen" portrayed on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by peadar1987
The treatment of Limerick FC by the FAI was abysmal, the fact no club was told of a contract that governed their business is shocking and they are right to feel aggrieved. I am unsure however if taking the legal route is the way to go, even if they win compensation (surely their best outcome) one suspects that JD & Co will be waiting in the long grass and with any LOI club never more than a heartbeat from the next disaster.......
Are you getting value for money? Doubt itQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Witout grassroots football their is no national team.
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Originally Posted by Mr A
and the same national team which only exists due to there being a semi pro league in that country.
His point was that the national team is a massive cash cow. The claim that loads of money is squandered on it - which is what he was replying to - is, frankly, a bit silly.Quote:
Originally Posted by gael353
The two things can be true though. It would still be a massive cash cow even if less was spent on it. There's necessary spending, and there's squandering. How much of the latter is being done? I have no idea myself (and don't really think it's relevant to this thread).Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
[QUOTE=SkStu;1443941]i wish Limerick nothing but the best on this. They were shafted unmercifully by the FAI, particpation agreement or not. Tough situation for a club and its fans to find itself in. Whether it achieves anything or not remains to be seen i suppose.
I take objection however to claims by some limerick fan here that the FAI has bailed Bohs out.[/QUOTE]
Apologies for that :peace:
No its not, how much is Trap and all the gang on? How much does Delaney get? Jesus even Stapleton and Givens were on the pay role for a good while:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
What does Delaney's wages have to do with the NT? Absolutely nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennocelt
Trap gets, what, €2m a year from the FAI? (Half his wages come directly from Denis O'Brien.) One sell-out home game in Lansdowne brings in something like that kind of money, and that's before you consider TV money and sponsorship. The TV money was compromised to put on Monday Night Soccer (indicated at this fans forum), Eircom pulled out of the league sponsorship before the national team. The money taken in from the national team utterly dwarves the expenditure, and whether you think Trap was a good investment or not, the extra money expended on him is very likely recouped in terms of the impact of the increased viability of the team on the various revenue streams.
I don't see what your point was, beyond a petty swipe at the FAI.
[QUOTE=John83;1444436I don't see what your point was, beyond a petty swipe at the FAI.[/QUOTE]
there ya go again knocking our hobbies
My point is that the FAI SHOULD be investing in the LOI.Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Delaney gets more in a salary that nearly the whole of the prize money on offer in the LOI - not bad for a useless get.
How many times have the national team filled the new stadia yet? Will be very interesting to see the crowds at the upcoming games?
I don't think any of those paragraphs actually related to each other.
If I were the FAI, I wouldn't invest much in the LoI until the clubs copped the hell on to themselves. (Though you could even argue that the FAI are investing in Bohs...). And as John83 pointed out, MNS is a tangible investment in the league.
How many times have the LoI filled the new ground? The Man Utd game doesn't count obviously.
Thats all fair, but the attitude is that the FAI when it helps the LOI we should all be thankful. Its their job to progress football in this country, its what they should be doing and we shouldn't applaud them for that. The LOI is the sick man of Irish football, while the national team get all the press and money despite not doing anything of note on a long while.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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And as John83 pointed out, MNS is a tangible investment in the league.
Thats bull according to Steven Alkin (RTE) .RTE show MNS of their own accord nothing to do with the FAI giving them a e4m discount on international matches, just cause Delaney keeps sayin it dosen't make it true
bennocelt, I agree with most of what you said, pretty much all. However the fact that the LOI is the sick man (or Ottoman Empire) of the "Irish football family" is more down to the lack of clubs forethought or planning. Right now we have Shamrock Rovers riding high, though a few years ago they were wandering from place to place and struggling - until they get the lease signed on the Tallaght Stadium, that could be the case again. Such is the hit and miss nature of LOI clubs, nobody (with due respect to all clubs) is more than a month away from going belly up. The FAI, for sure, can do alot better, a heck of a lot. However there also needs to be full transparency from clubs, officials and administrators. Fans need to become supporters, and be more involved in what happens in the game. Weekly we lose potential supporters to the sky league clubs, however much it galls me to say it, I don't blame them.
>Thats bull according to Steven Alkin (RTE) .RTE show MNS of their own accord nothing to do with the FAI giving them a e4m discount on international matches, just cause Delaney keeps sayin it dosen't make it true
LOL :rolleyes:
Anyone who thinks RTE would give MNS a one hour prime time slot and spend all the money on production costs unless their arm is being twisted is off their head!
Just last week saw on of the GAA mouth pieces going mad about the LOI have a magazine style show and they dont!
The GAA would turn your stomach sometimesQuote:
Originally Posted by Mario
Anyone know what happened in Edenderry? Some GAA club transfered 16 or 17 players cos they wouldn't commit to training cos of football and rugby commitments
Anyone know the full story?
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Originally Posted by cornflakes
At least they didn't revert to their usual plan of running over the things the don't agree with with a plough!
Gaa>>>>>>>>>>>>>irfu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>fai
i have to say im having a good laugh here to myself!!people praising the FAI and the work they have done, they only care about one thing and that is money!!
oh and dont forget the FAI are the same organisation who requested that ireland be the 33rd in last years world cup, how can anyone take that organisation seriously anymore i ask????
Athloneman, I agree with you, though I'd be less critical of the FAI on the World Cup issue. I still believe that the 33rd team was something that was spoken about half in jest with Blatter, and he used it like he used the homosexuality issue the month before last, as a big man throwaway quip. There are far more important sticks to beat our lot with.
spud your dead right but i was just pointing that out just to show the stupidity at times of JD and his cronies!!there are far more domestic issues to compain about!!
I think Edenderry are a senior club and didn't want their players playing football/rugby while training with the GAA club. I think they allowed the players to transfer to a junior club who didn't care and probably just wanted numbers for games.Quote:
Originally Posted by cornflakes
The EVIL so and sos!! :rolleyes:
Given that rte have repeatedly denied the accusation, and the high regard the football authorities are held in around here, I'm surprised this keeps getting brought up.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's all down to interpretation. Correct me if I'm mistaken, but after the sky deal there were legal changes made. This effectively reduced the domestic market value of rights packages. The subsequent deal could be viewed as paying a fair price, or getting more for less.
Surely at least one of these bodies are subject to foi request, if anyone wanted to ask the right questions.
The FAI aren't. Or at least, in my experience, they'll deny it if they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by A N Mouse
So lads anyone going to the high court on monday? fill us mortals in on the goings on
Round one........to Limerick :cool:
Details?
EDIT: seems like we have been successful in our fight to have our case/complaint/whatever taken to arbitration. Is this CAS arbitration, or something different?
Court appointed arbitratorQuote:
Originally Posted by osarusan
This just in from the FAI:
FAI Statement
Monday, January 31, 2010
The Football Association of Ireland today (Jan 31) confirmed to the High Court that it and Limerick FC have agreed to enter mediation. The FAI regrets that money spent on this course of action will be lost to the sport. What is decided during the mediation process with Limerick FC could have broader ramifications for the funding and development of football at all levels.
ENDS
At least we now have someone to blame when the Irish team dont qualify.....
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Originally Posted by Mark
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_5XR6yXUJsW...n-sad-face.jpg
Let's hope there's enough left in the kitty at the end to still pay Johnny his eight grand a week. :rolleyes: