Alaska, Trap will never play him at right back, his attacking style would give Trap a heart attack. However, as I have said on here before, as fans, we would love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaFox
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Alaska, Trap will never play him at right back, his attacking style would give Trap a heart attack. However, as I have said on here before, as fans, we would love it!Quote:
Originally Posted by AlaskaFox
I know, but we'd be so good going forward. Feck this defending lark.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
To be honest, Lawrence does so much work helping out the fullback, I think Coleman could play at right full. Would not be comfortable with Coleman playing behind the likes of McGeady though.
Trap has stated that he would like Coleman to play full back for Ireland, rather than midfield.Quote:
Originally Posted by gastric
None so blind as those who cannot see. As per comments previously, Coleman is Ireland's most attacking player. Let's hope he can keep it going. A real prospect and Ireland need players like him.
'Would' being the operative word. Trap would see Coleman's attacking style as being too risky. He likes his defenders to play a conservative game and it will be interesting to see how he employs Seamus in the near future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Predator
If he didn't see him as a full back then he would have said as much. He's had no problem telling the likes of Fahey he's not a central midfielder.
edit: Seamus given man of the match in the Star (highest rating)
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/football/...scoring-Blues/
Becky from Redhill, Surrey was rated a 9, I thought the 5 for Kate Brighton was unduly harsh, probably not tracking back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/starbabes.../Becky/3/#babe
Charlie, the proof will be in the upcoming friendly. I bet Coleman gets to warm the bench, and at best, plays the last five minutes in midfield! In saying that I would love to see him start, but again Trap is too conservative to take any risks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
The perception of Coleman as a full back seems much the same as with Gareth Bale, he can do a job there but its a waste of his ability in a sense - he looked alright as a fullback but in his current position he really looks the business. Anyway we've got plenty of decent rightbacks as it is. Its just accomodating him with Mcgeady and Reid possibly in the squad. Maybe the answer is to stick Mcgeady out left like Spartak did, but then when his inclination seemd to be to dribble sideways accross the pitch to the other flank (sometimes making it half way) this rather defeats the purpose. Maybe Coleman could play right sided central midfielder.......thats the kind of thing its worth having friendly matches for to experiment with.
Personally I would like to seem him play at right back. Coleman teaming up with McGeady down the right side is a mouthwatering prospect. Poor Glen Whelan would have a nightmare trying to cover for them though! Full backs should be Coleman and Cunningham for Norway.
Moyes is delighted with Coleman
http://www.evertonfc.com/news/archiv...y-pleases-boss
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Originally Posted by David Moyes
Could be a winger full time
"Everton youngster Seamus Coleman has revealed that he is enjoying playing further up the right flank.
The 22-year-old Irishman is a full-back by trade but Toffees manager David Moyes has utilised him as a winger in recent games.
Coleman has been in good form of late and, on his return to Blackpool at the weekend, the club where he spent a spell on loan last season, he scored in a 2-2 draw.
On his more attack-minded role, he said: "It's a different position, but I really enjoy it.
"You have to play where the boss says, but I'm getting game time, which is great.
"I've had a few games at Everton now, but I know I'm not a regular yet. I just need to keep impressing."
Coleman, formerly of Sligo Rovers, played nine times in the Championship for the Tangerines last term as they won promotion via the play-offs.
He did not celebrate his effort at Bloomfield Road on Saturday, and was delighted by the reception he received from the home fans.
"It was a great reception," he told Everton's official website. "The fans were chanting just before kick-off which means that I must have done alright when I was here, so it was good.
"It was always going to be special coming back and I was looking forward to it and to get a goal was an extra bonus for me."
On not celebrating his goal, he remarked: "I wouldn't be a big celebrator anyway but I didn't want to rub it in their faces because they treated me well when I was here.
"But obviously I was chuffed inside."
The point leaves Everton 11th in the Premier League and their next outing is a home tie with Bolton on Wednesday."
Joint top rating Sky Sport against Arsenal
Can he play in the center?Quote:
Originally Posted by rebelmusic
No reason to believe he could not play there, he seems a decent passer of the ball, also he seems to play more left midfield than leftwing.
I have not seen a great deal of him but he does not seem to one of those wingers who hug the line, say more like Duff.
He seems to get more inside, this could be due to the fact he seems to have the pace to get past his player and get round him (bit like Bale perhaps). He seems pretty much a competent in all aspects of the game. He was switched back to left back also in his last game.
That is good versitility
He plays on the right.
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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
I wondered who would be first to spot that.
When I say right I mean left, and vice versa, I always get them confused, apart from in politics.
I look forward to the day Meyler, Coleman, McCarthy and Clark all take the field for us at the same time. Bets on if it ever happens?
Personally, I can't wait for the day these two feature in the same (senior) Irish midfield. Having Coleman and Clark in the vicinity wouldn't exactly weaken that side either. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Crosby87
Coleman is an out and out wide player. Totally different skillset to playing in the middle.
How do you know he doesn't potentially have those skills though Stutts? He is only 22 right?
Because I can tell the difference between a guy who does his best work out wide and a guy who does his best work in the middle. They're very different skills. He alluded to it himself in his Irish Times interview yesterday, citing Arteta's passing and ability to find space that isn't there. Coleman's best attributes appear to be using his pace out wide and putting in telling square balls.
You are making that assumption based know what you have seen of him so far.he seems quite direct alright a little like kilbane years ago but with a better first touch and general ball control.that's not to say that he might not have the attributes to be a midfielder.we just haventt seen it.interestingly midfielded was where he played mostly in gaelic I've been told.i know its a completely different game before anyone says anything but the position has similarities.
Stutts do you work in football professionally? Im not trying to be a jerk, just asking. You seem very confident. It's neat if you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
Stutts is far too smart tko work in football
True, but I like to simplify players' roles and think there is sufficient descriptive capacity in terms like "ball winner", "ball user" and "ball carrier" to categorise players. There are subtle differences. Take wide players: there's a big difference between a wide midfielder (think Lawrence for us, Pires at Arsenal - both "ball users") and a winger (think Duff - "ball carrier"). Lawrence & Pires-like players could arguably move inside, but Duff couldn't. I'll concede that Coleman maybe has just a bit of Lawrence in him, but he's got far more of Dave Langan in him - he looks born to be on the touchline. Coleman looks to me to be a "ball carrier" rather than a "ball user". He looks to do his best work wide, and at speed.Quote:
Originally Posted by paul_oshea
Lawrence reminds me of a poor mans Diego Forlan, still an achievement nevertheless
I have wondered why Trap has never (to the best of my knowledge) tried Lawrence in the centre. He definitely has the physical attributes and has superior technical skills to Whelan/Andrews/Green plus he's proven he'll run all day. Of course he might not have the positional sense but it wouldn't hurt to try.
Has he played there for his club?Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
He has played central during his club career. Perhaps not for a while now but Sunderland used to often employ him centrally under McCarthy.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Was at the game and EVERYONE was booing at the final whistle and everyone was roariong to bring on Seamy
he only refuses so as not to "bow to media pressure"
Trap can just f**k off at thsi stage
old goat
Just lock it MODs - Lock it now.....
disappointing we didnt get to see him but hes only starting out so its not a sacking offence. his time will come hopefully soon. i would have like to see him get the full 90 minutes but trap calls the shots right now. was impressed with cunningham, linked up well going forward.
Beggers belief he didn't play last night and even more Trap going on about the system and the players being experienced playing it. Good night Trap if you think we can afford to leave a player like Coleman out of the team.
I was at the game and the person most people wanted to see get game time was Coleman but unfortunately Trap makes most of his decisions to spite with the press/fans demand. The only reason he didn't play Coleman last night was to stamp his authority yet again and say 'I am the boss, no-one tells me who to play'. He is more concerned about his ego than the good of the team. He's done it many times before and he'll do it many times again so I can't believe I was surprised by his latest act of defiance to everyone.
It's obvious Trapatoni isn't paying attention to what the players are doing at club level. You could see this even in the early days when half the people on here were clamouring for St Ledger and Lawrence to be given a chance for what seemed like an eternity before Trap finally decided to give them a game. Wo and behold once he played them they almost immediately became mainstays in the team.
Not playing Coleman last night who looks to be potentially an infinitely better player than Foley, Kelly, Hunt and McGeady is another very bad decision on his part.
His tenure is really starting to grate. We need to get the younger players in and give them a chance because some of the players we have are very substandard and shouldn't be anywhere near the international team (Whelan, Kilbane and Green all spring to mind).
So was I and no they weren't.Quote:
Originally Posted by an_ceannaire
In fact the guy standing behind me was wondering why people were booing. and I agreed with him
There was the beginnings of a hum from where we standing and immediately our lot started singing. People need to check their heads a bit if they start booing the manager because of not giving a fella game time in a friendly.
Of the first 3, which does Paul green fit into? Ball winner, ball user, ball carrier or is there a fourth, ball loser?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88