Um, they haven't paid their players their owed back money though and no agreement is in place yet- so they're in breach of licensing right?
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Um, they haven't paid their players their owed back money though and no agreement is in place yet- so they're in breach of licensing right?
That's the logical view alright Mr A but maybe they feel Licencing doesn't cover ex-employees and they have deals done with those they've re-signed.
Relax, you'll get in because of Drogheda anyway. No need to worry about cork...Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
I'm not worried at all about staying in the premier, just surprised that CCFC make such a strong statement regarding their compliance when it seems like they obviously are not quite there yet.
Potential Sponsors and future Service Providers?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
They are selling themselves to a significant slice of the business community. The presentation of potential rewards from high profile competitions needs to continue.
Other posters on here wish every club, every organisation and every decision was stripped to the bare bones so those posters may ridicule them (only to be negative.). When that is denied them they get very irate.
I was only joking Mr A. Or at least only half joking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
Whats the story with Shamrock Rovers and a new manager???John Gills now available!!!;)
They have far more important things to be fretting about than the appointment of First Team Managers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black and White
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d6/Qecd.jpg
" I Think the green seats and the white seats should go together."
or
"The seatings all wrong!"
Why would you want him at Rovers..:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Black and White
Like everyone didn't see that one coming weeks ago. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Lamper.sffc
You're going to be rather good this year aren't ye. :(
I dont want Gill to sign for anyone...was just putting that out in the open like!!;)
Personally, I hope John Gill gets back into management as soon as possible. There must be an opening at some first division club. He has won that division twice now and I don't see why he couldn't do it again..
We're not in breach of that licencing rule until January 31st [though only because that rule is so poorly written and can be interpreted in a number of ways]. Currently, there is no reason to deny CCFC a licence, we're not required to have paid the back pay yet, if we're still in the same position on February 1st as we are now, only then would we be in breach of licensing rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
McGinn to Celtic has popped up again. €250k wouldn't be too bad for a player who has only really had one good season.
http://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2008/1212/mcginnn.html
He is now an international footballer so should command a higher transfer fee than that really. He is a real shining light of LOI football and If Derry are to sell it should be for more with a sell on clause, friendly game against celtic and bonues for playing a certain amount of games for Celtic and then for Norn Iorn.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
Beggars can't be choosers and all that.
Ah i think Derry are solid enough, well a hell of a lot more solid than most clubs in the LOI. I think they can afford to play hard ball to a certian extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
£500,000 to Celtic is nothing ! sell on clause of 10%, friendly match, £250,000 if he plays 50 plus games for Celtic's 1st team and a further £250,000 if he plays 25 plus games for the North. Good deal for all involved....
Jesus that sounds like a deal i'd make in Football Manager ! :D
Its nothing to do with Derry needing the money. its about spending money on player thats untested even in a league who's last 3 high profile exports haven't earned their transfer fee (McCourt, O'Donovan, Mooney)
True, but in Football, most youth/young players that a club try to sign are a gamble. Clubs know this and they take the risk that comes along with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
We don't want a friendly with Celtic, they still owe us a second game from the Paddy McCourt deal anyway. However if the first friendly with Celtic is anything to go by then we'll be losing money on the next two. 1st team my ass!!!
I think Derry fans are getting fed up being asked to pay for Celtics transfer dealings with us. A friendly game against Swansea would probably generate more interest than the next Celtic game will.
That is true alright. People can get very uppity about how much LoI players are worth. We got E60k for Dicker and were glad of it; he's now regular enough as they push for the Division Two play offs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dodge
That most certainly is not true though. Although with the sale of McGinn and McCourt, they've probably covered their losses for the year?Quote:
Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns
Dicker is a super player and worth more than what you got for him. To say your glad you got what you got for him shows why UCD are now a 1st division side IMO. Do you think if Dicker had of been playing in the UK and a League 2 or League 1 side were looking to buy him they would have got him so cheap ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
As i said, Derry are probably in a better position than most Irish clubs, i dint say they were clear of debt or anything of the sort.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Dicker was rejected by Birmingham and then signed by a Division Three side, who typically don't give out big money transfers. Even then, they only toko a risk on him partly because Jim Gannon knows the LoI.
There are clubs worse off than Derry, but I don't think it's most of them.
I stand by both my comments.
Edit - also, the reason we're in Division One now is more because clubs like Bray and Cobh, who would be our nearest rivals usually (in terms of league placing) gave contracts to players they still can't honour than because of what we got for Dicker.
But he wasn't. He was playing for a team battling relegation in the league of Ireland. I'm not knocking the lad, but Stockport are never going to spend €200,000 on a player form UCD.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns
The player is only worth what a club is willing to spend on him. He may be better than players who are sold for millions but if no one is willing to buy him, his transfer value is zerio
Niall has two years left on his contract, so we would be happy for him to stay at Derry CityQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Derry City chairman Pat McDaid
Stu I know you love continually commenting on Derry's financial situation, however our chairman has said, and Ihave heard this with my own ears, that if the right offer comes in we will sell McGinn, however we don't have to sell him.
I've heard people say things before.
You don't expect him to say in the media (where I assume you got that quote from) that Derry are broke and will take the first vaguely decent offer that comes in?
AGM last week, £80,000 loss for previous Financial year.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I'm aware of that. But it's irrelevant. 2008's the important one. That's when you started running into problems.
Birmingham and Celtic now being reported by Sky Sports as battling it out for his signature. http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11688_4631551,00.html
Birmingham seem intent on giving a trial to or signing at least half the players in the league at this stage.
I'm led to believe a similar loss is predicted (not including possible transfer of McGinn).Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Certainly not the Doom & Gloom you regularly preach.
I'm led to believe otherwise.
Best case, with cumulative losses of £160k over two years, and a recession on meaning people are looking for cash quickly, you're not really in a position to hold out for another few grand.
Signed by a Fourth tier (League Two) side. Better quit while you're near BEP.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
You have a problem. You squeal when organisations are not transparent and then you squeal when they provide information in a public forum (I don't mean this site, I mean a real venue.)
When you return start calling Divisions by there true title, it aids clarity.
That was one of the more pointless posts in the history of the internet. :confused:
Didn't Derry City allow Glasgow Celtic to Guzump West Bromich Albion for Paddy McCourt contract? There's no reason Derry won't follow the same successful route.Quote:
Originally Posted by passinginterest
So in other words, Jim Gannon knew what he was doing getting Dicker on the cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I would think the only clubs who would be in a better position at present are Pats and Rovers. Certianly nobody else in the Premier anyway. So in my mind that would be most clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I stand by both my comments.
How do you make that one out? So 2 of Bray's biggest financial backrers pull out half way through the season meant UCD finished bottom of the table? The pay cut that Bray asked the players to take was with 3 games to go, we were safe at that stage and back wages have been paid. We finish a rather big 18 points ahead of you with a slightly better goal difference, how would asking our players to take a pay cut for the final 3 games of the season have an effect on UCD getting relegated ?Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Can people please stop bickering in this thread?
This thread is for Transfer Rumours? Not arguing about how UCD finished bottom!
I don't think Dicker has done E200k of work for Stockport yet, even after they've been promoted. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by BrayUnknowns
:DQuote:
I would think the only clubs who would be in a better position at present are Pats and Rovers.
Complete nonsense, I'm afraid.
We had backers pull out mid-season too; we still paid all wages.Quote:
How do you make that one out?
UCD offer a player E300 which they know they can pay; Bray or Cobh or Harps (it's a cumulative thing; not picking on Bray) offer E500 which they can't pay. Which is the player, being stupid, going to take? Can you then see how Club A signing players over Club B is going to affect Club B? Or more to the point, how it's going to have more effect than trying to squeeze another E100k out of a Third Division team who simply aren't going to pay it?
seconded:(Quote:
Originally Posted by brianw82
Meh. The internet's for lots of things. If a new rumour comes along, I'll tell you. ;)
Have UCD many players re-signed for next season?, last i heard Gregg and Finn lad (i think) were signed.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu