And second on points. Long live Il Trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
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And second on points. Long live Il Trap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
We wanted a win on friday and a draw today to revive both our qualification hopes but also to give irish football a boost with the general public.
We didn't quiet get that but we got next best thing. The next month and the build up to the end of the group will be fantastic. What odds a full aviva for the armenia game now!!
And what odds a woeful, defensive display lacking of any inspiration.. why? Because we'll only need a draw (if Russia have qualifed first)
It will all end in tears........
...and I, for one, welcome our new Armenian overlords...
Armenia could win the world cup.
A remarkable achievement for a country of only 3 people,
Armenia could get into the playoffs and meet Turkey.
If it's build up before a match you are after...
I remember a few other crazy groups in fairness.Quote:
Originally Posted by Straightstory
First dig....Quote:
But on current form,
...second dig....Quote:
we're most probably the fourth best team
.....third dig in the one sentence.Quote:
(or third worst) in this group.
In the current table, we're in second spot on merit, and I'd much rather have our last 2 games, than what the others have.
Great results, and great night for Ireland. 3 results our way and we're off to Kiev and Wroclaw.
There'd still be potential play-off seeding to play for.Quote:
Originally Posted by writerbk1969
fahey played cm in a 2 man midfield in a friendly last year and was very good. id stick a ball winner in with him, how can they be any worse than whelan and andrews.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
whelan is no stronger than him anyway. the idea of having fahey in there is that we wouldn't be passed around because we have the ball.
wouldn't be against a 3 man mid, but would have to be shane long as the lone front man
The following Slovak players all picked up yellows too:
Marek Cech (45)
Karim Guede (52)
Stanislav Sestak (73)
Marek Hamsik (75)
Jan Durica (79)
Miroslav Stoch (90)
Stoch and Kucka might well be out as theyve at least picked up one yellow before each.... Also Russia will have Kerzakhov out, they would be better playing with Pogrebnyak given this, but I think they'll start with Pavyluchenko. I think that game will be very hard to call. It would be worth keeping an eye on the Armenia - Macedonia game next time too, as if that's a draw (and we beat Andorra) then I cant see them catching us so hopefully it would take the pressure off our last game at home to Armenia.
3 million or so surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by tricky_colour
And the hot & cold balls will surely keep them away from the Turks...
Just saw this this result.
Cooooooooooommmmmmeeeeeeee oooooooooooonnnn!!!!!!!!
I know ! And isnt it amazing how this freak and unexpected scoreline has somehow shifted the Trap perception back toward one of him being a wily old devil who may yet deliver, when in reality he has had a massive chunk of luck tonight, pure and simple, and his Irish team could not really complain too much if they had been done 5-0 tonight, so one sided was the contest and numerous the clear sights of goal Russia spurned.Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
But we are in there, in the mix, and its in our hands.
Oh people would have complained alright, if that scoreline was reality. Even with the reality of a 0-0 draw, they're still complaining.
thats the Irish ok. one text to rte 1 sport last night read "no true irish football fan would want us to qualify as we are rubbish"!.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
who are we to turn our noses up at the chance to play in the finals of a tournament because we have alledgedly had some luck and we dont play attractive football?
how our gutsy, determined, committed team gets such a hard time from the irish public is really beyond me. i really hope the stadium has only the 20,000 or so true Irish fans in it for the Armenia match rather than another 30,000 seeking to be entertained and a chance to jump on the qualification bandwagon.
What does that lad expect? Us to play like Barcelona!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
Yes yesterday was extremely lucky and yes we dont play attractive football and yes we all get annoyed about it from time to time. But with the exception of 2002 campaign when we seriously rode our luck as well and had one of the greatest midfielders in the world, we have not been known for playing great football.
Jackie C was hardly employing fantastic tactics, but did most of us care?!?! Not a jot. Its a results business.
Interestingly that the two pundits on the highlights show last night said that even if we qualify Trap should not be offered a new contract.
Theres a difference between playing like Barcelona and just playing some sort of competent brand of passing.
Although again I think the problem is less with trap and more with the central midfielders we have available to us. In traps very first game he played Whelan and Steven Reid and we played some smashing possession football in those first few games primarily because Reid knew how to pass a ball. We've been unable to replace him since because the players aren't available.
this is spot on. ctre mid is the big problem for us but our options are limited at best.Quote:
Originally Posted by Murfinator
this being the case how can people suggest that trap doesnt get his contract renewed no matter what the outcome of this group when he has made the very best of an average group of players?
the likes of sadlier, giles, dunphy etc are in la la land if they think we can qualify trying to play great attractive football.
Richard Sadlier is a k**b!! Everytime he speaks its like an audition for Dunphy's 'end of the table' chair when he packs it in...Quote:
Originally Posted by jbyrne
I really cant stand the man