Win or Bust for Bohs

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

I'll tell you what is patheic. Ezeikial is one of the few posters on here that actually backs his/her comments up with FACTS and SOURCES and because it is about Bohs he/she is attacked by every Bohs fan on here and told that he/she is fascinated with the club.

When in reality for every reply a Bohs fan gives to one of his/her posts he comes back and wipes the floor with you lot and then all you can say is "oh your fascination with our club.... blah blah blah" now that is pathetic.

Like every other LOI fan he/she is upset that a fellow LOI club is dragging the leagues name through the mud again and its not because it Bohs, it would be the same for any other club.

Do you want to know why this is getting so much attention on her?
It is because your fans are constantly coming on here and trying to defend your clubs actions, "We have NOT broken any rules YET" rubbish. Its not christmas YET but I know its coming and wouldn't argue against it.

Here's some advice, accept that your club has done wrong, accept that it is in a bad way and things need to change drastically. Accept that you probably need to let your whole squad go and start again in a lower division, because ultimately it may save a great club that very few want to see fold. Stop trying to defend the undefendable!

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.....or perhaps get a can of petrol and head up to the FAI offices ? :D why the hell would any supporter "accept" relegation UNTIL it is a fact (which despite the delusions of posters on here it is NOT). In the short to medium term every Bohs supporter knows that our current set up is over and that from next season our playing squad will be very different. Whether they should have known this earlier is irrelevant right now. The clubs immediate concern must be to get back on side on the 65% rule and stay in the Premier - if we don't we will have to accept the inevitable.

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Originally Posted by marinobohs

Now if you can just get Rovers (always up to something dodgy) Cork and a few others kicked out as well then derry might, just might, win the League

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And if you want to chedat your way to a league title you should be punished. A little bit of trivia for you concerning Bohs and Derry, Your win last Sunday was the 2nd time you have beaten Derry over 90 mins in 20 GAMES.

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Originally Posted by Derry

A little bit of trivia for you concerning Bohs and Derry, Your win last Sunday was the 2nd time you have beaten Derry over 90 mins in 20 GAMES.

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Yes we have a bad record against Derry lately but whats the got to do with anything

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Originally Posted by Derry

And if you want to chedat your way to a league title you should be punished. A little bit of trivia for you concerning Bohs and Derry, Your win last Sunday was the 2nd time you have beaten Derry over 90 mins in 20 GAMES.

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Yea too busy winning all those trophies to worry about records against smaller clubs. Cute, the way you air brush our FAI Cup win from your trivia (over 90 minutes etc etc) Wonder why we got that big cup so ? And why Stephen had a weep ? perhaps you should have told him "its OK its only over 90 minutes" :) 10 points and counting...........

Can we quit the penis comparisons and get back on topic?

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Can we quit the penis comparisons and get back on topic?

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Derry started it ;)

anyway, how bad a depth are bohs in ?

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Originally Posted by roinuj

anyway, how bad a depth are bohs in ?

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About 200 metres below sea level.

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Originally Posted by roinuj

anyway, how bad a depth are bohs in ?

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Let's just say that they seriously need to start digging up.

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Originally Posted by roinuj

anyway, how bad a depth are bohs in ?

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I'd say somewhere in the Mariana Trench :D

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Originally Posted by Partizan

I'd say somewhere in the Mariana Trench :D

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I`d sooner be where we are than where you are!
Shouldn`t you be back with your mates on the Rovers forum?

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

I'll tell you what is patheic. Ezeikial is one of the few posters on here that actually backs his/her comments up with FACTS and SOURCES and because it is about Bohs he/she is attacked by every Bohs fan on here and told that he/she is fascinated with the club.

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National newspapers? we can read them ourselves, thanks

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When in reality for every reply a Bohs fan gives to one of his/her posts he comes back and wipes the floor with you lot and then all you can say is "oh your fascination with our club.... blah blah blah" now that is pathetic.

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No, s/he doesn't

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Like every other LOI fan he/she is upset that a fellow LOI club is dragging the leagues name through the mud again and its not because it Bohs, it would be the same for any other club.

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Do you want to know why this is getting so much attention on her?
It is because your fans are constantly coming on here and trying to defend your clubs actions, "We have NOT broken any rules YET" rubbish. Its not christmas YET but I know its coming and wouldn't argue against it.

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Nobody here from Bohs has tried to defend reckless overspending or the the actions of the board with regard to the Albion case that I can recall - most of us have been strongly critical of actions by the previous board, but we keep it to our own forum and members meetings.

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Here's some advice, accept that your club has done wrong,

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Now hold on with the moralising - we spent on the basis of a deal that, until the end of the Albion case judgment, looked like it would keep us financially secure for many years to come. What has to happen now, should have happened last year, granted. The situation is NOT the same as Shels; we were spending money that, in good faith, we thought we had - not secretly mortgaging and remortgaging our future. Nor were we borrowing against a notional future development as Drogheda were. We were getting real money from a real potential buyer on the basis of real heads of agreement. Whether we were right to go into such a agreement was a matter for the members and they overwhelmingly supported it, as I guess most fans of most clubs would have, if so presented. (i didn't support it, as it happens, but we're a democracy, and I wasn't going to strop about it here)

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accept that it is in a bad way and things need to change drastically. Accept that you probably need to let your whole squad go and start again in a lower division, because ultimately it may save a great club that very few want to see fold. Stop tryig to defend the undefendable!

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Most of us already accept most of that - if we can find a way to avoid relegation we will, obviously, but the rest is pretty much a given in Dalymount circles. Find me an instance of a Bohs poster here trying to defend the indefensible.

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Originally Posted by sonofstan

Now hold on with the moralising - we spent on the basis of a deal that, until the end of the Albion case judgment, looked like it would keep us financially secure for many years to come. What has to happen now, should have happened last year, granted. The situation is NOT the same as Shels; we were spending money that, in good faith, we thought we had - not secretly mortgaging and remortgaging our future. Nor were we borrowing against a notional future development as Drogheda were. We were getting real money from a real potential buyer on the basis of real heads of agreement. Whether we were right to go into such a agreement was a matter for the members and they overwhelmingly supported it, as I guess most fans of most clubs would have, if so presented. (i didn't support it, as it happens, but we're a democracy, and I wasn't going to strop about it here)

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See now this just shows how wreckless your club were. Spending money they didn't have. I wouldn't go out tomorrow and spend a years wages on the basis that I will have my job for another year, I might not. And correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you think that was ok and it wasn't Bohs fault!

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Originally Posted by marinobohs;1198351[B

].....or perhaps get a can of petrol and head up to the FAI offices ? :D[/B] why the hell would any supporter "accept" relegation UNTIL it is a fact (which despite the delusions of posters on here it is NOT). In the short to medium term every Bohs supporter knows that our current set up is over and that from next season our playing squad will be very different. Whether they should have known this earlier is irrelevant right now. The clubs immediate concern must be to get back on side on the 65% rule and stay in the Premier - if we don't we will have to accept the inevitable.

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Another well thought out response from a Bohs fan, well done. Thanks for proving my point :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by mcgonigle

See now this just shows how wreckless your club were. Spending money they didn't have. I wouldn't go out tomorrow and spend a years wages on the basis that I will have my job for another year, I might not. And correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds to me like you think that was ok and it wasn't Bohs fault!

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It's 'reckless'

Did you actually read the bit you quoted? over 2006/07 we were spending money we did have - Carroll was paying us a certain amount a year for the right to 'first refusal' on Dalymount (it was more complicated than that, but that'll do). What happened after that was somewhat different, and nowhere do I defend it. However, there was at least an expectation that we could resolve the situation vis- a- vis Albion, so it wasn't completely stupid to continue in the expectation thereof.

The situation at Bohs is not the same as at Shels or Drogs (which weren't the same as each other). By all means, attack us if you want, but not because of what you think it looks like.

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Originally Posted by pineapple stu

Can we quit the penis comparisons and get back on topic?

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The whole thread is one long penis comparison

Embarresing stuff from a number of posters.

And speaking as a mod, can people stop posting about posters, either talk about the issue or stfu

Hold on here- didn't Dundalk move from being a co-op to being a privately owned club because they made a total and utter balls of it? Or did I miss something?

They're lecturing Bohs and getting all self-righteous why now?

Not that I have any real sympathy for Bohs- you reap what you sow.

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Originally Posted by Mr A

Hold on here- didn't Dundalk move from being a co-op to being a privately owned club because they made a total and utter balls of it? Or did I miss something?

They're lecturing Bohs and getting all self-righteous why now?

Not that I have any real sympathy for Bohs- you reap what you sow.

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That's fair enough - we don't want sympathy: it's the moralising I can't take. Especially from those who haven't bothered to make an effort to understand what actually happened.

If it is indeed found that Bohs did not keep within the 65% pay cap and thus broke the rules what are the sanctions that will be applied to them?
Will they be relegated, will their league title be stripped off them and if they do win any other trophies will they be stripped off them also?

Any sanction is possible.

Until it happens, we won't know. No real point in discussing it until then IMO