The GAA architectural philosophy of "Decent main stand,three big terraces" would suit the league quite well
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The GAA architectural philosophy of "Decent main stand,three big terraces" would suit the league quite well
The majority of the big GAA stadiums would be totally inadquate for UEFA matches.Quote:
Originally Posted by GUFCghost
They're all about capacity and nothing to do with spectator comfort or access/exits.
I often thought the same on GAA grounds, a case of cram as many in as possible, no real oversight body in control, so they can build what they want / need. There can't be too many sporting organisations who built a brand new terrace (and huge one too) in the 21st century, Hill 16.
No news for a long time from Dundalk on redevelopment plans for Oriel Park, the pitch was obviously the absolute priority but it would be good to see some news of plans further ahead.
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Originally Posted by oriel
Don't think you get the European money till after the competitions have finished, so probably waiting to see whats available before committing
Celtic built a small safe standing terrace of 4,000 spaces, only opened this season..Looking to expand it more and more each year.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
All German teams have a terrace behind the goals (Dortmund the main example)
Its only because English football does not allow terraces that we don't see all the big clubs in England do it.
Yeah I think to be fair Dundalk have said previously that they had feasibility studies done on what they can do to the old ground, money talks at the end of the day so that will dictate what can be done. You're also right on the actual drawdown of the money, that takes a fair bit of time to arrive. Also I think Dundalk got some already from UEFA to help them arrange logistics during the EL run.Quote:
Originally Posted by vinnie
Maybe, but these are mostly the terracing rail-seat type structures that can be easily changed into seating for Euro matches. I`m pretty sure it was invented in Germany.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
The drawdown isn't until the end of the year that the competition finishes. so for all the Irish clubs in Europe last year they get the money at the end of this year.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
You could achieve a lot of category two requirements with one stand,after round two of qualifying it would usually be worth while switching to the aviva.
Out of interest,is Thomand Park category four?
To further on this Celtic actually have a huge waiting list for tickets in the safe standing area it does draw and reignite interest from people who wouldn't normally be happy to go and sit and watch football.Quote:
Originally Posted by dundalkfc10
MLS clubs that are building stadiums are including terraces and I believe Tottenham have designed one of the stands in their new ground to be easily convertible to safe standing.
I hate sitting at football matches especially when you end up standing cause people in front are standing and then there is nearly a row. So I am not surprised that the likes of Celtic have a load of people wanting tickets fr that area. It isnt much of a problem here when the issue around the league is more a lack of seating but in the long run safe standing areas should be considered in the design of new 'stands'.
Yeah it's a bit more expensive but it adds another dimension to the marketing of the league if targeted at the right people. I hope they consider it for the east stand in Tallaght at some point,if they do it this off season they could even save money and just move the seats to the new standQuote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Posted on our forum following this evenings AGM.
New Stadium
1.There was a structural integrity study done on current structure and it was deemed that it is still fit for purpose
2.A meeting with the Capital sports scheme took place in February and new plans were submitted.
New structure
Stadium to have to fully seated stands and terraced ends 5,500-6,000 capacity
West Stand(current build) 1954 seats with admin building, changing room
East Stand approx 2000-2500 seats
2 x Terraced ends combined capacity of approx 1500
Above is rough guide,
plans are currently with FAI and county board, its expect to have decision made in 6-8 weeks. When a general supporters meeting will be called and fully details plans published
Club will need help once new plans published details of which will be announced at said meeting
Its planned to have project complete ready for start of 2019 or 2020 season
1954 seats?
Nice.
Good thing Derry didn't try that one. What would they pick?
They'd have to build different stands for each restart. Could end up with quite a big stadium that way in fairness.
Ground move update from AGM: http://www.finnharps.com/fhfc/?p=4836
You're moving the ground now? JESUS!
Am I missing something here from this post?Quote:
Originally Posted by BonnieShels
One stand with 1928 seats. Another with 1985 seats. Another with 2010 seats. And another under the ground.
You think their one would be big, imagine oursQuote:
Originally Posted by Mr A
And evenly spaced dugouts between them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
One of the local papers in Dundalk suggested today that the club might be announcing plans if they are to redevelop the ground in the summer. No other details given.
As always it will come down to finances, but there is a fair bit of space around the ground to build, the type of stand Pats and more so Sligo have behind one of their goals would be prefect in OP. If they got planning permission to extend the main stand down the whole side, and installed even one new stand (behind the town goal would prob suit best), it would make a massive difference.
All of that would probably cost a few million though. I can only see gradual improvements being made though, we'll wait and see what the report they have commissioned comes back with.
I'm not too pushed about facilities myself, but I recognise they are important to attract people.Quote:
Originally Posted by oriel
The seating Sligo have behind the goal looks nice, but in Ireland you have to have a roof.
I know the cost increases massively, but what's the point if you don't do it right.
Summer football :) no need for a roof at all
Every farmer in the country has the sort of covering that would do in some cases as do most GAA clubs. Increase costs on those examples a bit to box in the roofing so it doesnt look like a complete hay barn. I dont know why roofing areas even short to medium term isnt done. Yes it will look cat if let rot and ye dont want to be left with it forever like the main stand in Tolka. But really why does it cost so much to have cased RSGs raked to create a terrace that can have seating installed and then covered. I am being a bit flippant but if it is going to take 5+ years to having Oriel redeveloped it cant be that expensive to have a semi temporary roof over the away section and the town end terrace?? Or Bray replacing the canvass with the hay barn GAA example.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufcfan
Never mind a new stadium, Harps still can't get an online shop sorted ! It's not listed on their website, and if you google for it they have a page saying that they're working on it. Which has been up all year.
They've lost themselves a jersey sale as a minimum there, as I won't be checking again. It's a good thing they're so wealthy :)
An online shop is fairly low on the list of priorities this season..Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
What about this instead? You'd be the talk of the town cruising around in your Delorean with this on the bumper.Quote:
Originally Posted by EatYerGreens
https://www.ebay.com/p/?iid=222149074913&&&chn=ps
The pitch will definitely be a 4G pitch. 😠Quote:
Originally Posted by Candystripe
It's fairly basic stuff, something Longford still can't be arsed to do mind. There's junior clubs that sell their gear online it should be made part of the licensing agreement it's that fecking basicQuote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
thats what sums up why the league is never taken seriously. its not a priority. its one of the easiest things that can be done and its a source of income. a lot of the websites around the league are pathetic.Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
Dundalk could have done a temp roof for both areas to the side of the stand years ago, regardless of that ownership issue. Many people renting houses long term will do small bits like this. The club will argue they didn't have full ownership of the lease and may have had to pull it down, but as Nesta says if its going to be even more of a wait, it wouldn't have been that expensive to remove roofing, besides you would have gained the time it was up, disappointing it was never even considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nesta99
Hopefully the report they are expecting in the summer will be encouraging to plan for much needed improvements. long term.
Harps mugs have been low on the list for years!Quote:
Originally Posted by nigel-harps1954
https://www.derrynow.com/soccer/work...stadium/164441
Wee bit on the Brandywell, including a photo of the structure of the stand.
When is work on the Brandywell expected to be completed? Where are Derry going to play their Europa qualifier?
Europa game in The ShowgroundsQuote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Just wondering if anyone has any news on any potential redevelopment at Oriel Park, also any news on the new Finn Harps stadium and the proposed new stand at Tallagh.
New stand in Tallaght is supposed to be starting in next few months
There were bits mentioned in various interviews with Kenny since he signed his new 3 year extension. The underlying theme appears to be he signed this on the strength of having been satisfied that the owners have given assurances that improvements will take place. He quoted 3 improvements already for next season that will go ahead, making use of the Youth Development Centre (YDC) - behind the shed, which passed into the owners hands when the lease issue was resolved. 3 new rooms to be fitted out, Medical centre, Sports Science room and Video Analysis centre. There are already indoor pitches there and dressing rooms and at least one bar that is not used.Quote:
Originally Posted by pesky
He touched on the spectator redevelopment, but the club are waiting (as all fans are too) on the independent report from an outside company on what can be done. I would imagine when its available the club will then make their decision on what they can build, as they will need to apply for capital sports grants, maybe fai support and of course use some of their own money.
There is obviously so much that has to be done to the ground, its a very long list, in no particular order, a new stand behind the town goal, a new away end behind the opposite goal, and extending the main stand to as far as possible with planning considerations would be my choices. The shed side will probably need to be knocked down and rebuilt using the YDC as a background, but that can probably be done at a later stage. These might take years to complete, the outside report will probably dictate what they can do, and of course finance.
I drove past Harps new stadium the other day and there was a few lads in hard-hats on site, presumably some of the planning lads or something of the sort. They've said that mid to late September we'll get word on when we're going again so assume the folks in on site were doing something towards that.
Seems like nothing really, but it's the most activity I've seen on site in a long time.