Robbie Keane

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Was away all week so not commented till now. I've always been very pro Keane, I think he was shafted at Liverpool but should have stuck it out when you look at the amount of game time the likes of N'Gogg woulnd up getting after he left. It was the easy option going back to Spurs but I didn't blame him for it although at the time I thought it was a bad move given 'Arry's boner for Defoe, had Defoe not been injured at the time I doubt the move would have happened. That was how it turned out but like I say I wouldn't criticise Robbie for it, he'd seen Defoe off once already and had the belief he could do it again.

But I have to admit I'm disgusted with him over this move, he's far too good for the MLS and could have had another couple of years in the EPL had he reduced his wage demands, this move is all about money. I'd have liked to see him around for another campaign after this one and think he would have been able for it. I'd have loved to see him play another World Cup for us. But I doubt that will happen now, it would actually be an insult to Long if he keeps on playing as well as he is in the EPL and he isn't ahead of Keane in the pecking order come the WC qualifiers. I just don't see playing in MLS being conducive to him retaining the sharpness he'd need to play international football till he's 34 and I think that's a shame. Had this move come in 2 years time I'd have said fair enough but not now. That said, he'll score for fun over there but the standard is awful as can be seen by the defending for his goal last night....

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What's he going to win in the EPL? ... nothing! nada! zippo! so he may as well grab the cash and maybe win the MLS cup, he's unlikely to add to his wee League Cup medal playing in the U.K .

He'll still play for Ireland and his scoring record for Ireland makes him a legend.

His club career never really turned out as expected, he never was a true top class player, very good at times but never great and fading away in the EPL won't change that.

He's back doing those rubbish cartwheels again, honestly at his age it's embarrassing...

I think he did it because it was his first goal.

What i didnt like, is keane seemed quite dismissive of his other team mates there, like the big fish in the small pond.

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

He's back doing those rubbish cartwheels again

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Ha, it wouldn't surprise me if there was a clause in his Galaxy contract to ensure their performance.

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

He's back doing those rubbish cartwheels again, honestly at his age it's embarrassing...

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klose does a similar forward flip when he scores for germany also. i doubt the germans give a hoot as long as he keeps scoring for fun for them.
couldnt give ahoot how robbie celebrates as long as he keeps banging them in for us

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

I think he did it because it was his first goal.

What i didnt like, is keane seemed quite dismissive of his other team mates there, like the big fish in the small pond.

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Noticed that myself, but I think what was the dismissive "I'm the man with my arms out wide" stance for some was actually an attempt to catch the attention of Sir Beckham.

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

What's he going to win in the EPL? ... nothing! nada! zippo! so he may as well grab the cash and maybe win the MLS cup, he's unlikely to add to his wee League Cup medal playing in the U.K .

He'll still play for Ireland and his scoring record for Ireland makes him a legend.

His club career never really turned out as expected, he never was a true top class player, very good at times but never great and fading away in the EPL won't change that.

He's back doing those rubbish cartwheels again, honestly at his age it's embarrassing...

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I don't disagree, I think he's a total legend for Ireland, I just think that this will curtail his Irish career by a couple of years.

You wouldn't know what he could have won in the EPL, Birmingham won a trophy last year ffs, Fulham got to the Europa League final, just because he wouldn't be pushing for top 4 doesn't mean he wouldn't have a shout of winning anything.

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Originally Posted by jbyrne

klose does a similar forward flip when he scores for germany also. i doubt the germans give a hoot as long as he keeps scoring for fun for them.
couldnt give ahoot how robbie celebrates as long as he keeps banging them in for us

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Too right. Anyway, if the pi$$ should turn up missing, Julius Aghahowa is my prime suspect.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tUPRNEJv9rg

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

But I have to admit I'm disgusted with him over this move, he's far too good for the MLS and could have had another couple of years in the EPL had he reduced his wage demands, this move is all about money. I'd have liked to see him around for another campaign after this one and think he would have been able for it. I'd have loved to see him play another World Cup for us. But I doubt that will happen now, it would actually be an insult to Long if he keeps on playing as well as he is in the EPL and he isn't ahead of Keane in the pecking order come the WC qualifiers. I just don't see playing in MLS being conducive to him retaining the sharpness he'd need to play international football till he's 34 and I think that's a shame. Had this move come in 2 years time I'd have said fair enough but not now. That said, he'll score for fun over there but the standard is awful as can be seen by the defending for his goal last night....

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Not quite sure of why it's because he's playing in MLS that you think this. If his confidence is good because of fitness and scoring goals, the MLS has nothing to do with being conducive to retaining his sharpness. If Shane Long (or more likely Kevin Doyle) has a long scoring drought, but Robbie is among the leading scorers in MLS... who you gonna pick to play?

You have a generalized belief that the standard is awful in MLS, you are welcome to it (even if wrong) but even then it's not certain he will score for fun over here. There are some very good well organized MLS and Concacaf teams that will test Robbie and provide ample proof to us as to whether he should be ahead of Shane, Kevin or anyone else. It's up to Robbie to make his case along with the others in our frame.

This will not be an easy move for him... Being a long way from home, young kid in tow, Claudine to look after, perhaps another kid in a reasonable timeframe. Those issues, and not the quality of MLS itself, will weigh heavier in the end product of what we hope to see,... a Robbie Keane scoring regularly and doing cartwheels ;-)

I was resisting actually watching the goal but... Was it offsides? Or was it a highly skilled, slinky player just getting onsides?
And what the hell was the keeper doing? I hate the whole "LOL" thing but Jeez. LOL....
Awful Goal keeping there keeper.

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Originally Posted by BonnieShels

That's the sort of celebration that will go down well.

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Yes would be funny if someone in the crowd pulled out a real gun and shot back!! :p

Here is his touchdown in hd :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAyuiE41Kcc

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Originally Posted by tricky_colour

Here is his touchdown in hd :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IAyuiE41Kcc

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Now I dont want to make my mind up about the whole MLS on that snippet but I hope that defending isnt the normal fare or we will have a dulling of his skill and sharpness as he simply wont require them regularly in order to prosper. I mean I want to support this move, as we need him fit and firing, but that looked a bit laughable.

Nah!! Sure it'd be like someone judging all PL forwards on Shane Longs cross for tchoeiy (or whatever) the other day.. I'll reserve judgement for a bit.. Nice to see him get off the mark.

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

What's he going to win in the EPL? ... nothing! nada! zippo! so he may as well grab the cash and maybe win the MLS cup, he's unlikely to add to his wee League Cup medal playing in the U.K .

He'll still play for Ireland and his scoring record for Ireland makes him a legend.

His club career never really turned out as expected, he never was a true top class player, very good at times but never great and fading away in the EPL won't change that.

He's back doing those rubbish cartwheels again, honestly at his age it's embarrassing...

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You start complaining about it after he scores 211 goals. If any other forward scored 211 senior goals, we would be craving for that quality. But he's Irish and we're Irish, so best to be a begrudger instead.

Other players run into the crowd, point to the mouth, cover the ear, and/or get a booking. How should he celebrate?

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Originally Posted by Qwerty

What's he going to win in the EPL? ... nothing! nada! zippo! so he may as well grab the cash and maybe win the MLS cup, he's unlikely to add to his wee League Cup medal playing in the U.K .

He'll still play for Ireland and his scoring record for Ireland makes him a legend.

His club career never really turned out as expected, he never was a true top class player, very good at times but never great and fading away in the EPL won't change that.

He's back doing those rubbish cartwheels again, honestly at his age it's embarrassing...

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I hate when people make the argument that he might as well play in the MLS cause he's going to win nothing in England. If that was the case, he might as well as signed for Celtic again and played in that joke of a league. At least then he'd have no hassle getting over for our games.

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Originally Posted by cclinton

Not quite sure of why it's because he's playing in MLS that you think this. If his confidence is good because of fitness and scoring goals, the MLS has nothing to do with being conducive to retaining his sharpness. If Shane Long (or more likely Kevin Doyle) has a long scoring drought, but Robbie is among the leading scorers in MLS... who you gonna pick to play?

You have a generalized belief that the standard is awful in MLS, you are welcome to it (even if wrong) but even then it's not certain he will score for fun over here. There are some very good well organized MLS and Concacaf teams that will test Robbie and provide ample proof to us as to whether he should be ahead of Shane, Kevin or anyone else. It's up to Robbie to make his case along with the others in our frame.

This will not be an easy move for him... Being a long way from home, young kid in tow, Claudine to look after, perhaps another kid in a reasonable timeframe. Those issues, and not the quality of MLS itself, will weigh heavier in the end product of what we hope to see,... a Robbie Keane scoring regularly and doing cartwheels ;-)

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No offence but I've seen enough MLS football on ESPN to recognise the standard for what it is. For me, sharpness is not just to do with confidence, playing week in week out against better players keeps you sharp, not knocking in goals against defenders who's struggle to get a game in the Championship or lower in some cases.....

And Claudine was well up for that move from all accounts, I don't think he has any worries there....

I agree with most of this Vincent Hogan article

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Originally Posted by mypost

You start complaining about it after he scores 211 goals. If any other forward scored 211 senior goals, we would be craving for that quality. But he's Irish and we're Irish, so best to be a begrudger instead.

Other players run into the crowd, point to the mouth, cover the ear, and/or get a booking. How should he celebrate?

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He should take off his shirt and get a yellow card like true Irish hero Kevin Doyle.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

I agree with most of this Vincent Hogan article

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Exactly the same sentiment I was conveying. Damn the eloquence!

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

He should take off his shirt and get a yellow card like true Irish hero Kevin Doyle.

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A bookable offence.

Oh, I see... you make a judgement on MLS purely on what you see on tv. Well.... I saw some crap soccer in the Championship this weekend on tv, but I'd not call it a crap league.
There are MLS players who routinely perform at a high level for their national team when called upon and players who via the MLS have become quality elsewhere because of their start in MLS. You can look for the warts if you like and you will find them... just as likely to find the same issues with some individuals in EPL and even more in the Championship. There's some routine horrid defending and goalkeeping even in the EPL, but it does not mean the entire league is dire.

Being "well up for that move" and actually executing on it successfully are two entirely different issues. I hope it goes well for them...

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Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin

He should take off his shirt and get a yellow card like true Irish hero Kevin Doyle.

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what are u on about man? Keane's goalscoring record will prob take 100 yrs to get matched and Doyles the true irish hero? get a grip on urself!

This is just typical anti-us snobbery.

Charlie's tongue was wedged into his cheek.

lol fair enough, i thought he was serious

How is anyone surprised by this move. Robbie Keane has chased the cash more that he's ever chased anything on a football pitch. He's always had a hollywood attitude, and now he gets to play there. Look at his celebration the other night. The usual bs cartwheel and fire, then the hands in the air, look at me, pushing his team-mates aside so that Becks could see him, then he runs straight to Becks to give him a hug.

Pathetic!! LA. A fitting end to a complete non-starter of a career.

Oh great you're back again

Yeah, probably should have ignored Beckham after the pass for his debut goal.

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Originally Posted by gustavo

Oh great you're back again

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Soon we'll see yapster back again too :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Yeah, probably should have ignored Beckham after the pass for his debut goal.

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Because it was such an incisive ball that carved open the air-tight defence?

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Originally Posted by theworm2345

Soon we'll see yapster back again too :rolleyes:

Because it was such an incisive ball that carved open the air-tight defence?

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dunno about you worm, but anytime I play football and score (which is rare enough) I always make an effort to thank whoever passed for it.

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

Yeah, probably should have ignored Beckham after the pass for his debut goal.

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Nope, but no need to be completely dismissive of everyone else. Which he was. In fairness i know many people who have met him outside of football or football related matters, and this is his general attitude.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Nope, but no need to be completely dismissive of everyone else. Which he was. In fairness i know many people who have met him outside of football or football related matters, and this is his general attitude.

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does every move he makes have to be analysed so closely??

love these urban myths about players personalities and how they behave! usually quoting a friend of a friends 2nd cousins da to back up their dislike of a player

Nope no friends of friends just reliable friends, drank in a mates pub. Many of my mates also drank in there. :)

ANytime he is around football he does seem different.

I don't care what kind of character he is as long as he scores for us. Last time I checked, he is the still our best goalscorer and I don't care where where he plays his club football as long as he puts the ball in the back of the net for us. In this current campaign he has scored 5 goals, all others no more than 1 each. He is still the most important player on our team. Where would we be without him? The stats don't lie.

Also for Sunday's game in NJ, Hurricane Irene is on track for NY for the same time so there's a chance it will be called off. That or it will be played in torrential rain.

As for MLS, here we go again. Yes it is not as "elite" as the Prem but it is still pretty good. A lot of Prem teams come over to play in the summer, can't remember the exacts scores but West Brom, Everton and Bolton were beaten, Man Utd and Man City won. They were just friendlies. Oh and also, while my crap NY team won the Emirites Cup against Arsenal and PSG, we can't win a game in MLS. As someone who's followed MLS since it's inception and gone to dozens of games (NY partial season ticket holder now), in my opinion it's not as good as say the Prem or La Liga but not as crap as some people make it out to be.

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

in my opinion it's not as good as say the Prem or La Liga but not as crap as some people make it out to be.

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Yeah but that isnt really in doubt. I guess the real question is, is it as good as SPL, Championship, League One? I have no opinion having seen nothing but a few short youtube clips of MLS.

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Originally Posted by paul_oshea

Nope, but no need to be completely dismissive of everyone else. Which he was. In fairness i know many people who have met him outside of football or football related matters, and this is his general attitude.

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I've actually heard quite the opposite. heard he's great craic to have a pint with. Funny what ya hear from different folk

Been tucked away concentrating on exams for the past couple of weeks, so never go my chance to wish Robbie the very best of luck in his new move! At least he will be getting fisrt team football and scoring plenty of goals (hopefully), really don't see it taking too much away from his international form. He has never left his country down and will continue to be a great servant

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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979

dunno about you worm, but anytime I play football and score (which is rare enough) I always make an effort to thank whoever passed for it.

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Fair enough, I used to too when I played up top, but I've been switched to centre half for the past couple of years so maybe its just been too long since I've scored. However, I don't think I've ever been gifted a goal like that so I may have had to thank the defenders.

I remember Robbie scored a tap-in after some great work by Duff, at home to the Faroes. He went off on his solo-celebration which I thought was totally selfish, but when it's a trademark celebration, tap-in or not, I think it's fair that colleagues would appreciate that.

Stutts you remind me of one of the indian lads here at work, throwing curveballs out of nowhere, like talking about buying a car, and then he saying something like, if you buy the parts yourself you can make the car.....:D

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Originally Posted by Fixer82

I've actually heard quite the opposite. heard he's great craic to have a pint with. Funny what ya hear from different folk

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think the scottish fans over here in February would agree...

http://taboard.com/forum/index.php?s...&#entry1840958

brought some of them lunch it appears