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20/08/2007, 9:41 AM
mypost

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Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

It was even better as it was never penalty,he finally makes up for Sheff Utd last year.

:o

Hate to bring up this whole chestnut again, but anyway we should clarify that:

a) Two alleged "wrongs" don't make a right in football, and
b) The incident you refer to, unlike yesterday, was actually a genuine penalty.

That peno decision yesterday was as bad, if not worse, than the Carvalho "header" in front of the Kop, a decision we didn't get that cost us the match in 2005.

Wonder how long it will take for the decision yesterday to even itself out?? Probably sometime when we're 3 or 4-0 up, when we don't need it. :rolleyes:
20/08/2007, 9:51 AM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by mypost

:o

Hate to bring up this whole chestnut again, but anyway we should clarify that:

a) Two alleged "wrongs" don't make a right in football, and
b) The incident you refer to, unlike yesterday, was actually a genuine penalty.

:rolleyes:

B) He is talking about the time Gerrard Dived but got the penalty because of "intent" worse than yesterdays at least there was contact yesterday :p Every single arguement ye came up with to defend Gerrard then can now be turned around and used to defend that penalty .

It was very similar to the free kick Gerrard got V villa , Where he lost the ball and jumped into a player to win a free. Very soft free kick / very soft Peno but there you go what goes around comes around .
20/08/2007, 10:22 AM
beautifulrock

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Originally Posted by Rocketfingers

A great sporting moment about time you got one given against you. But my favourite part of yesterday was Alan Green on radio 5 he was spitting mad proper losing it i am just about to write a letter to the BBC asking them to put a neutral commentator on for Liverpool games. Hopefully you can expect him to get the sack later today or tomorrow. :p

why would you want him sacked, he is the best commentator on the BBC IMHO.
20/08/2007, 10:28 AM
4tothefloor

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Originally Posted by reder

Highlight of the day was the John Terry song.

What are the words to the John Terry song?
20/08/2007, 11:13 AM
reder

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Originally Posted by 4tothefloor

What are the words to the John Terry song?

I'll PM you. I aint posting it.
20/08/2007, 11:30 AM
mypost

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Originally Posted by anto1208

B) He is talking about the time Gerrard Dived but got the penalty because of "intent" worse than yesterdays at least there was contact yesterday :p Every single arguement ye came up with to defend Gerrard then can now be turned around and used to defend that penalty.

We know what he's talking about. I said it was a penalty then, and I say it was a penalty now. In yesterday's game, the contact was made by the attacking player, who didn't appeal for a penalty.

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It was very similar to the free kick Gerrard got V villa , Where he lost the ball and jumped into a player to win a free.

Nothing to do with the fact that he was actually bodychecked in order for him to lose the ball, and therefore get a free-kick, of course. :rolleyes:

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Very soft free kick / very soft Peno but there you go what goes around comes around .

As I say, it doesn't come around, nor go around. It's the ref's job to know what a foul is/isn't in the penalty area. Period.
20/08/2007, 11:36 AM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

why would you want him sacked, he is the best commentator on the BBC IMHO.

Second.

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Originally Posted by Rocketfingers

if these journos/commentators can't contain their allegiances then they ought to be stopped from doing matches involving their clubs. If yiou heard him yesterday there isa no way that you would think he was a decent commentator, he forgot about the match and just ranted and raved.

Didn't listen to the match yesterday but if you're talking about Green's anti-Fergucon bias, that's well known. Anything else, I haven't heard him come out with before. What was he saying?
20/08/2007, 1:17 PM
beautifulrock

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Originally Posted by Rocketfingers

Just spotted this hd to laugh. I think somebody thinks the same as me

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Gr...broadcaster%29

if these journos/commentators can't contain their allegiances then they ought to be stopped from doing matches involving their clubs. If yiou heard him yesterday there isa no way that you would think he was a decent commentator, he forgot about the match and just ranted and raved.

Anyway hopefully today or tomorrow he will get the boot ;)

wow someone on Wikipedia has the same opinion as you that is amazing :confused:,

My opinion that he is the best presenter on BBC radio still stands regardless of you and your little laughs.
20/08/2007, 1:31 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by mypost

We know what he's talking about. I said it was a penalty then, and I say it was a penalty now. In yesterday's game, the contact was made by the attacking player, who didn't appeal for a penalty.

Nothing to do with the fact that he was actually bodychecked in order for him to lose the ball, and therefore get a free-kick, of course. :rolleyes:

As I say, it doesn't come around, nor go around. It's the ref's job to know what a foul is/isn't in the penalty area. Period.

Ya ya your making it up now i forgot the "pool" fans have different rules

Gerrard jumps into a player its a body check , if a chelsea player runs into Finnan its the chelsea players fault !!

Come on you cant have it both ways
20/08/2007, 2:05 PM
mypost

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Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

I think Rocket has a point you tune in sometimes to listen to a match that Liverpool are playing and Green is doing it and you are more or less listening to Radio Liverpool FC.

Which is a load of blx. He has no point as AG is as capable of saying how terrible we are, on air, in equal measure.

If you want a commentator with LFC bias, tune into one of our games with one of our own, Alan Parry, commentating on Sky.

Another thing, who listens to radio commentaries anymore, anyway?? :confused:

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if a chelsea player runs into Finnan its the chelsea players fault !!

:D

Fyi, Styles has now been temporarily suspended from Premier League games by his boss, Keith Hackett. Wonder why?? :confused:
20/08/2007, 2:08 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by mypost

Which is a load of blx. He has no point as AG is as capable of saying how terrible we are, on air, in equal measure.

If you want a commentator with LFC bias, tune into one of our games with one of our own, Alan Parry, commentating on Sky.

Another thing, who listens to radio commentaries anymore, anyway?? :confused:

:D

Fyi, Styles has now been temporarily suspended from Premier League games by his boss, Keith Hackett. Wonder why?? :confused:

For giving essien two yellows yet not sending him off id say
20/08/2007, 2:08 PM
Roadend

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Originally Posted by anto1208

Gerrard jumps into a player its a body check , if a chelsea player runs into Finnan its the chelsea players fault !!

Come on you cant have it both ways

So You are saying Petrov was bodychecking i.e intentionally comitting a foul, Finnan was turning to follow the ball and Malouda jumped into him, yet you see a comparison in the two incidents????
20/08/2007, 2:12 PM
anto1208

VDM pleads for one more chance , he was susspended for the spurs and reading games and finned for missing training last sunday . he is now pleading with moyes for one more chance says he is under pressure because of his daughter being sick .

There is only so much moyes can let him away with with out other players looking on thinking they can do what they want but with his kid so sick it seems harsh to sack him , but i cant see him getting back into the team to get a run of 5 or 6 games with out an injury or suspension or another incident .

From eatsleep:

The chances are that his pleas may fall on deaf ears as David Moyes considers his options with the winger, who has never really settled at the club and who missed training last week.

Missing training was just the latest in a line of misdemeanors since arriving at the club two summers ago from Inter Milan.

He now wants one more chance to show what he can do and his friend and solicitor Tony Nelson says he has been under tremendous pressure due to the fact his five month old daughter is poorly and has been in Alder Hey hospital since birth.

He told the Sun: "He bitterly regrets what has happened Andy and his partner visit Dolce every day and it has placed a huge strain on them.

"The baby was in the neonatal ward until June and is still permanently on a ward. Andy pleads for the forgiveness of the manager and the fans."
20/08/2007, 2:15 PM
anto1208

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Originally Posted by Roadend

So You are saying Petrov was bodychecking i.e intentionally comitting a foul, Finnan was turning to follow the ball and Malouda jumped into him, yet you see a comparison in the two incidents????

No im not mypost is saying that .
20/08/2007, 3:24 PM
superfrank

How often do you listen to Alan Green?

In every match I known him to commentate, and a lot of them didn't involve Liverpool, he goes on about bad refereeing, players diving around the place and feigning injury.

Admittedly, I didn't hear yesterday's match but I have heard him commentate on Liverpool matches before and his carry on has been the same as it is in non-Liverpool games.
20/08/2007, 3:56 PM
superfrank

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Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

Anyway he should be taken off Liverpool games or ideally sacked ! :)

If i started a petition could you all sign in below and well get one more of them off the radio. ;)

No way. Legendary commentator. He speaks his mind. Would you rather Johnathan "Robot Wars" Pearce?
20/08/2007, 4:23 PM
beautifulrock

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Originally Posted by Rogue Trader

Do you really want me to answer that ? :)

So Roguey, you want to start a petition to get someone who annoys you of the BBC, not a bad idea. I wonder can you do that on other type of forums with people who annoy :p
20/08/2007, 4:39 PM
beautifulrock

[QUOTE=Rogue Trader;750529]Is it Alan Green ? :) I don't want him kicked off the BBC Beautiful ! what i want is to go the whole hog on Green and turn him into a real life Louis Winthorpe III (Maybe the Beeb could make it into a reality series) /QUOTE]

:D it might work I guess although not convinced. For all his faults I like him and I know you will admit (eventually) the he is better than Jonathon Pearce :eek:
20/08/2007, 11:25 PM
mypost

So the donkey Styles got suspended for 1 match, for making "an error". If I mark 7 numbers instead of 6 on a lotto ticket, I make an error too. Only yesterday, we're playing for big money and prizes, and it's unacceptable to make massive "errors".

The proper punishment of course, would be to overturn the result, hand us the 3 points, rescind Jamie Carragher's booking for his justified protests, and make an example of Styles by banning him for 5 matches. :)

Obviously he didn't earn his UEFA badge. He came from the "Collect 6 crisp packets and become a ref" school instead. :rolleyes:
21/08/2007, 9:52 AM
KildareFan

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Originally Posted by mypost

So the donkey Styles got suspended for 1 match, for making "an error". If I mark 7 numbers instead of 6 on a lotto ticket, I make an error too. Only yesterday, we're playing for big money and prizes, and it's unacceptable to make massive "errors".

The proper punishment of course, would be to overturn the result, hand us the 3 points, rescind Jamie Carragher's booking for his justified protests, and make an example of Styles by banning him for 5 matches. :)

Obviously he didn't earn his UEFA badge. He came from the "Collect 6 crisp packets and become a ref" school instead. :rolleyes:

The ref apologised and was banned for a week which is more than happens to most clubs when a ref makes a mistake but God forbid anybody wrongs liverpool!!! Get over it, it's one bad decision, I know Liverpool aren't used to these things going against them but most clubs have been putting up with it for years.

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