...and we finished 11 points off qualification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
More importantly, what's he given us since September 9th last?? :confused:
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...and we finished 11 points off qualification.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
More importantly, what's he given us since September 9th last?? :confused:
the dubs against us again ha.
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Originally Posted by Ciaran
:D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ciaran
Is this the definition of irony?
You do realise you wrote that post in ENGLISH. Right Ciarán?
I wouldnt pay too much heed to what Ciaran writes or attempts to write to be honest.
give it a rest with this "traitor" talk. You don't know the facts or the full story. Let's wait and see what happens instead of leaping to conclusions.
exactlyQuote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
Well said, the only official quotes from Ireland are that he wants to meet Trapattoni and he never told anybody he didn't want to play for his country.Quote:
Originally Posted by boovidge
Everything else is conjecture and hearsay.
What game were you watching?? I went to the game too with a few friends who are City fans and after he scored (top class strike I admit) he was practically anonymous. City should have been 4 or 5 up at half time - but that was down to the attacking play of Petrov, Benjani, Vassell and Elano. Ireland wasn't involved at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by HomeBrewPlease
And if you're implying City fell apart due to him being taken off, thats just laughable. I think he would be very useful playing off Keane with Ireland, but he definitely needs to get himself involved in the game more.
His no shows are all conjecture and hearsay, come lads get your heads out of the sand, the man has no intention of playing for his country and we need him like a hole in the head, if we bow to his tantrums or however you want to discribe his behaviour we might as well tell the whole squad just to turn up whenever it suitsQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
bar kilbane, the majority doQuote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
and robbie keane shay given richard dunne damian duff (when not injured) and which of them lost two grannies in a week:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bellavistaman
if the way people talk on here everybody should be screaming for as many caps why did nobody bar kilbane go to usa, because he loves playing for ireland means the world to him
Exactly. My own best guess is that he hates the atmosphere in the squad, particularly the alleged bullying, and that he wants to tell Trap this and to make sure he's aware of all the issues. If Trap assures him he'll cut it all out then I expect he'll "come back".Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
With all our players available I can't wait to see how Trap sets us out.
are u really saying that its Steven Irelands fault that we finished 11 points off qualification????Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
It's clearly his Granny's fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
No, his other granny.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia
On a more serious note, you're paying attention to mypost. :eek:
Fair point!Quote:
Originally Posted by John83
Time for bed!
Reminds me of the Two Ronnies Mastermind - providing the answer to the previous question - as it were:o
Hasn't he given you the chance to be the obnoxious so-and-so that you love being? Some people are just never happy. :pQuote:
Originally Posted by mypost
jesus even we didnt go the the states, but were in aarhus & will be in fullham:DQuote:
Originally Posted by bellavistaman
For anyone to say with don't need Ireland, just take a look at his goal against Fulham on saturday again, without doubt the most naturally talented player in the Squad, I would think the whole stephen ireland issue will be fielded at Traps conference this coming Thursdays
Goal or not on sat. he will not make Trapps first XI. He will have watched the videos of Nicosia and Bratislava and concluded that he is not ready for international football. All well and good getting the odd goal now and then but defensively he is a non entity. Sadly International footballers need to be good defenders. Stephan take a wee break.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
As an Italian, he may be a bit more inclined to try some system with two midfielders behind Ireland in a attacking role. That said, our wingers are a sight better than our centre mids at the moment, so maybe not.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
Boulderdash, who would you have in Midfield ahead of Stephen Ireland! he is . I would Suggest a five man midfield with Stephen Ireland in an advanced role, like gerrard sometimes plays with liverpool supporting torre i.e Andy Reid (left) Stephen Reid(mid) - Carsley (mid) Mcgeady (right)Quote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
in the hole (Stephen Ireland)
up front (R Keane).
For me doyle and duff just haven't done it this season and should be on the bench.
IMO it's insanity to put our best central midfielder (Andy Reid) out on the wings. He'll lose a lot of his impact by being out there. Andy Reid is essential in the centre (provided he's fit) and I seriously doubt that Trapattoni will play him on the wings. There's probably about 10 other Irish players I'd want to stick out there before trying Reid there. The role doesn't do him justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
This prima donna wants to meet "Il Gaffa" on his terms, not the other way around. That alone should be enough to give Trap the hint that he has no commitment to his country.Quote:
Originally Posted by lucanhoop87
If he wants to play for us, then it's quite simple. Turn up, shut up, and play without quibble, like everyone else will.
Our best midfielder banished to the wing to accommodate 'vision in pink' with one player up front. That's going to get us loads of goals :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
Could't put it better, agree completely, and hopefully we will not have to put up with SI's crap attitude much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Don't you think it's a good idea for the manager to know what his problem is before the squad meets up?Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
We want to be fully focussed on football, so if he doesn't want to play then better to discover that now so as not to cast a shadow over the May meet-up by him unexpectedly withdrawing or not showing up.
if stephen ireland was bullied in the squad that is unacceptable.
if he wasnt , well he should have been !
I don't think Ireland has acted particularly professionally since he left the squad, but then again I don't know all of the facts. Let's just assume that he was bullied (because we have no idea what went on in the camp) and he just turns up to the next squad without saying a word about the incident. If the event happens again (and to more than one player) then there could be a lot more problems than just the Stephen Ireland conundrum for Trapattoni. It would be completely unprofessional of Trapattoni not to address the issue of bullying if it did happen during the Easterrn European games.Quote:
Originally Posted by mypost
And one player doesnt make a team but can break a team!Quote:
Originally Posted by Reality Bites
Can you not see the negative effect he has on the rest of the squad with his childish tantrums and pink alloys :D
His attitude stinks. His past performances in a green shirt have been abysmal - Nicosia and Bratislava in particular. Whether he got a screamer or not at the weekend should not come into it. Waken up and see the guy for who he really is - if he doesn't fancy it - forget about him. Erickkson took him off after 56 mins - he could have been that good at the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenforever
Geovanni came on for Ireland, and most reports I've seen that losing Ireland was what cost City the game, Geovanni did nothing.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
I'm not a masive fan of the guy (outside of football) from what I've seen of him. He seems like the classic modern day footballer. However, whilst he has been so-so if an Ireland shirt so far, to say he has been abysmal is taking it too far. He was abysmal in those two games, but in the other qualification games he has been pretty decent. He was MOTM against San Marion IMO (granted it was a woeful team performance). In that game he ws the only player trying to make things happen and he was also very good against Slovakia at CP from what I remember, and was good against Wales once he was moved inside. I think he has to improve a lot to stake a claim for a regular starting spot but whilst some perfomances have been abysmal, they haven't been overall.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigmanCas
I see Niko Kranjcar is linked with Arsenal this week. I think himself and Ireland are on a similar level. Kranjcar got abuse from the Croatia fans for a long time because his performances weren't up to scratch and they thought he was getting picked because his father was the coach.
Well, if his performances weren't up to scratch and his father was the coach combined with fans abusive mob mentality, it all makes perfect sense.
I was at the game. Ireland was invisible after his goal. Him coming off had absolutely nothing to do with City's implosion - the attitude of the whole City team (Ireland included) was awful after they went 2-0 upQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Is Krancjar not a much bigger player than Ireland? I know I keep harping on about size but it counts!Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy