Why is Park still on????????:confused:
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Why is Park still on????????:confused:
This would be a great result for Man Utd considering
could make for a very open game next week
That penalty miss will come back to haunt Man Utd. One of only 2 clear chances that they had at the Nou Camp and they are now at the mercy of the away goal.
God I love Eamon Dunphy, Ronaldo is a disgrace and a cod RIGHT ON!!! :D:D:D
Fantastic rant :DQuote:
Originally Posted by jebus
Ladies and gents, I hereby present you with the "dream" final:
Barcelona 0-0 mu
Refunds accepted. :D
They're bang on about Ronaldo's behaviour as well, and his disappearance from big matches. Yay he's on to slagging off Sky and the BBC now!!! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by micls
Still thought it was a good game. Much better than last nightQuote:
Originally Posted by mypost
Dunphy's right: We did see a great player tonight. Paul Scholes tried his heart out tonight while everyone around him was off the pace.
Ronaldo and Drogba were disgusting over the last 2 days TBH
Why was Messi brought off? Barcelona were never the same after he came off.
In fairness i think someone should get onto Dunphy about Ronaldo now, his bias against him is beyond ridicioules, it wrecks my head listening to him like tonight!. He goes beyond offering his views and always goes on a rant!!.
Was he wrong?Quote:
Originally Posted by gilberto_eire
Messi still not 100% fit
I don't like all the talk about how honest a player Messi is though. As someone who watches plenty of la liga I've seen Messi deliver Oscar worthy performances! He's more honest than Ronaldo but that's not saying a great deal!
So you don't think Ronaldo is an utter **** then? First person I've heard of who doesn't to be honest, even United fans normally admit the guy is an absolute clown. Still as long as he scores his two goals a game against the likes of Wigan and Birmingham I suppose we can't call him a complete flop of a 'World Class' footballer :D:DQuote:
Originally Posted by gilberto_eire
Was shocked at the poor level of first touch and passing by Manchester United tonight. The nerves must have got to them
I don't disagree on him been a muppet and as i watched the game i was actually saying to myself ''his main problem is he moans about everything, spends 30secs every few mins moaning instead of staying tuned into the game''. Did'nt have a great game either, but then again he was left up front by himself and was chasing useless long balls!Quote:
Originally Posted by jebus
What i was saying is Dunphy is a **** and his obsession with putting down Ronaldo has gone to irritating proportions. ''He's a disgrace to football'' but you'll never see Mr.Dunphy laying into the other 1,000 continental players in the same boat as him!.
Like ffs>>> ''...he could score a 1000 goals in the premiership for all i care...'' it could'nt be more plain to see his rants are 100% personal, that's what i was getting at. I remember a game (maybe this year?) Ronaldo scored a free-kick and he said something to the lines off ''Let's see him do that to a better team'' it was a champions league team he did it too aswell, i'm just saying it will always be something with him and he should be told to stop having personal rants on national televison, i like the RTE pundits honesty but his rants just make the viewing a laughing stock IMO!!
BTW i'm not a United fan either!!, just GUFC for me so i'm calling this as a neutral!!
Fair enough, sometimes I do think Dunphy is his own worst enemy in getting his points across. He normally has a decent insight into a game, but goes over the top in trying to grab the headlines, still I find him entertaining, to be honest he reminds me of myself after a few pints :)
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Originally Posted by rambler14
No mate,Dont support any English team. Sorry to disappoint ya.
For all the "Utd will win both legs", it was a pretty inept performance from Utd. Everything broke down through Deco though.
Barcelona's defence uses possession as their best weapon and as the much fabled Utd attack can only threaten if they keep the ball for long enough and often enough...I can't see that happening and neither can I see Utd being able to defend their 18-yard line as readily as they did tonight.
As a Barcelona follower, I thought Utd's performance as champions elect was no better than Getafe or Espanyol, not a performance from one of the best sides in Europe, unafraid of Barcelona.
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Originally Posted by dfx-
utd performance was terrible rooney wasted out on wing & ronaldo terrible also . fergie bottled it with team & tactics to negative... no pride or passion shown by to many utd players also , and yet barcelona did not score with all their possession & lovely play van der sar made only a few routine saves most also be a worry to barcelona they seem to be missing a cutting edge up front and look very average at the back also when put under any pressure , still all to play for as i would not class 0-0 as a good result would still fancy barcelona to sneak a goal at old trafford but then again utd should be up for a proper game at old trafford :ball:
I think Utd got what they set out for tonight. Very defensive approach for them; hoping to score on the break. They'd fancy themselves for the home leg.
Another whopper from RTE...
Real Madrid, Barcelona; what's the difference really? :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by gufcfan
Barcelona totally dominated but looked like they wouldn't score in 900 minutes of play never mind 90.
Man Utd will be happy with that considering that they missed a penalty and didn't really threaten otherwise, and I think I'd now make them slight favourites to win the tie. Still hard to call though.
The only thing in Barcelona's favor is that you would expect utd to come out and play more at OT. Given that, more openings would probably be available for Barcelona than today, with everyone in the final third of the pitch.
Just on Dunphys rant against Ronaldo tonight, and his worship of Paul Scholes, who I agree has been and is a terrific player. However, if we're talking about cheating, I distinctly remember Scholes playing for England in the 98 world cup against Romania and TV replays clearly showed him flinging himself to the ground in the penalty area, with not a defender within an arms length of him. A cheat, and a disgrace to the game, eh Eamonn ?
as eamo would say thats a 'shambles' of a comment.. scholes dived in 1998?? is that right - you've picked out 1 dive in ten years?? go back to bed...Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
ronaldo has hit the ground so many times this year i've started to wonder is old trafford full of snipers taking shots at the puny little *****...
Poor performance but a decent result. I think Fergie has learnt lesson after leaking goals in other CL Semi Finals but I think he went too negative last night. They only pressed and harried once Barca got into their half.
Barcelona had a lot of the ball but didn't do much with it. Next week will be a bit more interesting.....
His defensive duties aside last night, I thought Scholes had a shocker. RTE showed a cameo of his tackling and defending but they could equally have shown a montage of him giving the ball away on numerous occasions and that was one of the reasons Man U never retained possession for very long, which incidentally is normally the stong part of his game (his passing). Giles loves him because he was in a similar mode as a player himself and because Giles loves him, the other buffoon does as well. "I agree with John" "I agree with Eamon" for the past 20 years.
Interesting to see Souness had made it to Barcelona for Sky, having been on RTE the night before. Talking a lot of sense about Ronaldo and how he needs to mature, cut out all the gesticulations and people will appreciate him more - not the usual ott stuff of Mutt and Jeff to court the viewers.
United pretty much got what they came for and defended really well despite only having 35% possession. No credit to Ferdinand from Mutt and Jeff of course, whom they both despise and but for a missed peno United would have won the game. It's a results, not a performance, driven game and the 0-0 tips the balance 60-40 in Man U's favour.
Thought United were very poor. Terrible passing and ball retention. Fergie seemed to send them out with a negetive mindset. Saying that Barca has few enough chances.
Advantage to United but if Barca score first it will be very interesting.
Scholes has been in a bit of a rut the last few weeks, I've not seen him give the ball away in all my years watching Man Utd as much as I have the past couple of months. I reckon he'd normally have a 95% pass completion rate at worst on his good days. Carrick was as guilty last night, he's really come into his own since Xmas but I thought he had a shocker last night.
He always does the Wednesdays on Sky after the Tuesday on RTE.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
Post match RTE analysis, or lack thereof, was a joke. Bleating on and on with the same old criticims of Ronaldo. We know Eamon, we heard it all before! I was rather hoping they'd highlight Utd's 90 minute plan of ten men behind the ball. Showed absolutely no ambition last night. You'd have to wonder now next week if Utd. do come out of their shell what Barca could do to them.
I would have thought being a top 3 striker in the world made you brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pike B
Fair do's - The ITV commentator said he was out for the final if Chelsea got there, at the time he received the booking. I didnt check it out for myself - silly me!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by seand
Cheers,
Very different to Fergies summay of the game (Im not saying who is right by the way) Saw his post match comments where he said words along the line of "Scholes was about our only player who managed to keep posession, which was a concern....."Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I didn't watch the game through red tinted glasses like Ferguson :p There are probably stats someplace for each player's passing but I do recall some really poor passes by Scholes which was a surprise because that's usually his strong point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Junior
Interesting that there were so few bookings in both games. I reckon the refs were given orders to keep down the bookings so the teams can field their strongest sides in the finals.
I'd definitely put a wager on Barc if the bookies were giving me 6/4, 0-0 away sounds like a good result but has proven over the years to be a cursed result, I'm not sure of the stats but I'd be surprised if Utd haven't lost more than they have won when they've drawn the 1st away leg 0-0.Quote:
Originally Posted by OwlsFan
I'd say its a 52-48 Barc advantage, Utd have the advantage of being at home but Barc should be able to play Messi for a full 90 mins and only need a non-scoreless draw
Nope... Just good as whats there at the time... I tend to judge players on past aswell as present standards.. We're not going to agree over this are we??Quote:
Originally Posted by eirebhoy