New Irish manager

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Originally Posted by Wolfie

I can always recall how the likes of Townsend, Houghton, Moran etc often cajoled and demanded more effort from the players around them in an Ireland shirt. They were all committed to the cause.

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its almost a mantra for me , we need another andy townsend...

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Paul Jewell will be Bolton's boss by Monday, so scrub him off the odds list.

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Looks like Bolton want anybody but Jewell, First they wanted Bruce then Megson and now Coleman.

I'm suprised Brian Little hasn't been listed as a possibility...

Mike Newell

There's a fan of Irish football from Argentina, who appears on the various forums, when we are going through a bad patch, with suggestions on how we could improve.
He has suggested Carlos Bianchi as our new manager.
He has an excellent club record in Argentina but wasn't very successfull in European football. Maybe he has a communication problem with people from outside of Argentina? Or perhaps he suffers from home sickness?
Anyway, might be worth a shot. He's free at the moment too.
http://footballdatabase.com/index.ph...Carlos_Bianchi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Bianchi

Does he speak English.

I don't know :o

That would be a new requirement for the job then.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

None of our esteemed ex-players (or even ordinary ones) have made the grade really in management. O'Leary did OK for a while, Aldo did OK but a long time back. Houghton quit coaching at Palace cos he said the young kids' attitude was terrible. Hughton has always been a number 2. Sheridan seems to be doing ok but a long way short of being an international manager. Keane seems to be doing well and McCarthy is doing a good job IMHO.

The Scots seem to have no shortage of decent managers at a good level. Strachan, Smith, McLeish, Moyes, Burley, Sir Alex of course...

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I dont knwo why we are classing O'Leary and Alrdidge in the same breath. Aldridge's star act was a good run in the League Cup. O'Leary got a team to the semi's of the Champions League. I know he can be a bit of an arse but he is the outstanding Irish candidate.

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Originally Posted by cavan_fan

I dont knwo why we are classing O'Leary and Alrdidge in the same breath. Aldridge's star act was a good run in the League Cup. O'Leary got a team to the semi's of the Champions League. I know he can be a bit of an arse but he is the outstanding Irish candidate.

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Playing devil's advocate here but you could argue that at least Aldridge got a team to a major final which O'Leary never managed to do despite having how much bigger of a budget?

in fairness, considering every manager we've had has been progressively worse, the only logical one to be next is O'Dreary.

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Playing devil's advocate here but you could argue that at least Aldridge got a team to a major final which O'Leary never managed to do despite having how much bigger of a budget?

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champions league semi final is inferior to a worthington cup final ??

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

Playing devil's advocate here but you could argue that at least Aldridge got a team to a major final which O'Leary never managed to do despite having how much bigger of a budget?

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Dont want to see either of them appointed but i'd rather get a team to a Champions League semi final rather than a League Cup final. You cant possibly compare the two

Neither Aldridge nor O'Leary are the answer. They're out of work for so long for a reason.

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Originally Posted by RogerMilla

champions league semi final is inferior to a worthington cup final ??

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As I said, playing devils advocate, O'Leary never made a final and lost it after demoting Eddie Gray to make room for Brian Kidd, he'd need a good number 2 beside him. Aldridge at least got his day out.

It's all relative onbiously, of course having a run to the semis of the CL is a bigger achievement but making any sort of final on the sort of budget Aldridge was working off is very laudable.

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

As I said, playing devils advocate, O'Leary never made a final and lost it after demoting Eddie Gray to make room for Brian Kidd, he'd need a good number 2 beside him. Aldridge at least got his day out.

It's all relative onbiously, of course having a run to the semis of the CL is a bigger achievement but making any sort of final on the sort of budget Aldridge was working off is very laudable.

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I don't think either can do the job properly. Regardless of what they achieved over the space of a season. I think Daithi would have to be the choice of the two. But only after Jewell,
Coppel and

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Originally Posted by shanman2

I don't think either can do the job properly. Regardless of what they achieved over the space of a season. I think Daithi would have to be the choice of the two. But only after Jewell,
Coppel and

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All fair comment, neither would be my choice. Hoped Aldo was going to get it last time after it but only after it became totally obvious the no one wanted it (was O'Neill even asked or did Delaney just spin it so his mate could get the jpb) and the FAI weren't going to pay top whack.

They need to pull out all thw stops this time if they're to sell out the rumoured Brazil and Italy games next year, let alone have any chance of selling corporate tickets and 10 year tickets.

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Originally Posted by Drumcondra 69er

was O'Neill even asked

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Delaney got Mickey Walsh to ask a friend of O'Neill.

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Originally Posted by Stuttgart88

Delaney got Mickey Walsh to ask a friend of O'Neill.

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Coppell would be my choice, he is an intelligent manager who plays attractive football.

Klinsmann anyone? He was offered the US job last year but didnt take it as he wanted to change the structure of US Soccer along with it. Not doing anything now...

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

Klinsmann anyone? He was offered the US job last year but didnt take it as he wanted to change the structure of US Soccer along with it. Not doing anything now...

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Well thats Jurgen fécked then for the Irish job.

Stutts didn't you have a chat with Mickey Walsh about it, heard it from the horses mouth?

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Originally Posted by Metrostars

Klinsmann anyone? He was offered the US job last year but didnt take it as he wanted to change the structure of US Soccer along with it. Not doing anything now...

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...Except living the life of Reilly out in California!:D
I don't think he'd consider the job because he and his family are very settled in the US. He almost had to be dragged kicking and screaming from there to coach his country on home soil in the World Cup. So, I think it's safe to say he is in the 'not a hope' category.

It has to be alridge. An international manager really needs to structure a team (preferrably defensively) and motivate them. I think Aldridge would do ok!!

Attractive football should not be a criterion for choosing the manager. I want results. A good manager will use the players we have to better effect, i doubt that it will be condusive to attractive football. Give me Sam Allardyce, Mourinho , a coach who gets results and isn't fussed how the team plays to get it.

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Totally agree with you Noely both you and you guitar are right.

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Ditto and PLEASE NO O'Leary. How about Dunphy, Giles and Brady with O'Herlihy driving the bus?

It can't be any second rate Premiership manager (Coppell, Jewell, Dowie etc) and it cant be someone who hasnt worked for the last three years. And forget ex-Internationals like Aldo, Moran, Whelan etc

We have to pay the big bucks and chase the big guns - Mourinho, Scolari, Cappello, Hiddink, Beenhakker, Rijkaard etc.

You never know, we just might get one of them.

Gotta be foreign, no reason why he couldnt have an Irish assistant like Hughton or Heighway or the like.

or staunton....

[QUOTE=stojkovic;795732]It can't be any second rate Premiership manager (Coppell, Jewell, Dowie etc) and it cant be someone who hasnt worked for the last three years. And forget ex-Internationals like Aldo, Moran, Whelan etc

We have to pay the big bucks and chase the big guns - Mourinho, Scolari, Cappello, Hiddink, Beenhakker, Rijkaard etc.



I totally agree. Anyone who slated Stan and then mentions Aldo, Moran,Whelan, Roy HODGSON!?!, is just hypocritical. They are all on the same level.

I dont agree that we'll get any of the big names you mention.

I think theres an inbetween - O'Leary (player and managerial experience). But for me Dunphy and the media will destroy him within two games like Stan.

I cant think of many, but SOUNESS is my choice. (player and managerial experience AND he has a bit of character to face up the media and maybe even to impress some of them. (he's a scum bag basically) VENABLES would be another similar option.

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Originally Posted by stojkovic

It can't be any second rate Premiership manager (Coppell, Jewell, Dowie etc) and it cant be someone who hasnt worked for the last three years. And forget ex-Internationals like Aldo, Moran, Whelan etc

We have to pay the big bucks and chase the big guns - Mourinho, Scolari, Cappello, Hiddink, Beenhakker, Rijkaard etc.



I totally agree. Anyone who slated Stan and then mentions Aldo, Moran,Whelan, Roy HODGSON!?!, is just hypocritical. They are all on the same level.

I dont agree that we'll get any of the big names you mention.

I think theres an inbetween - O'Leary (player and managerial experience). But for me Dunphy and the media will destroy him within two games like Stan.

I cant think of many, but SOUNESS is my choice. (player and managerial experience AND he has a bit of character to face up the media and maybe even to impress some of them. (he's a scum bag basically) VENABLES would be another similar option.

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:confused:

How in Gods name is Hodgson on the same level as Aldo, Moran and Whelan?!
....then you go on to recommend Souness and Venables.:confused:

I give up!

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Originally Posted by Irish_Praha

Mike Newell

There's a fan of Irish football from Argentina, who appears on the various forums, when we are going through a bad patch, with suggestions on how we could improve.
He has suggested Carlos Bianchi as our new manager.
He has an excellent club record in Argentina but wasn't very successfull in European football. Maybe he has a communication problem with people from outside of Argentina? Or perhaps he suffers from home sickness?
Anyway, might be worth a shot. He's free at the moment too.
http://footballdatabase.com/index.ph...Carlos_Bianchi
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Bianchi

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Oh my god it's Larry David from Curb your enthusiasm

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Originally Posted by craig7042

:confused:

How in Gods name is Hodgson on the same level as Aldo, Moran and Whelan?!
....then you go on to recommend Souness and Venables.:confused:

I give up!

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Seconded, Craig stop smoking whatever you are smoking

[QUOTE=craig7042;795877]

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Originally Posted by stojkovic

I totally agree. Anyone who slated Stan and then mentions Aldo, Moran,Whelan, Roy HODGSON!?!, is just hypocritical. They are all on the same level.

I dont agree that we'll get any of the big names you mention.

I think theres an inbetween - O'Leary (player and managerial experience). But for me Dunphy and the media will destroy him within two games like Stan.

I cant think of many, but SOUNESS is my choice. (player and managerial experience AND he has a bit of character to face up the media and maybe even to impress some of them. (he's a scum bag basically) VENABLES would be another similar option.

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Most ill informed post on the entire thread. you'd sooner Souness or Veanables then Roy Hodgson???? Are you insane??

[QUOTE=Armando;795884]

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Originally Posted by craig7042

:confused:

How in Gods name is Hodgson on the same level as Aldo, Moran and Whelan?!
....then you go on to recommend Souness and Venables.:confused:

I give up!

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Armando I read some of these posts and it makes me think how and I dont know how to put this any other way but stupid are some people views, can you imagine if thats how delaney thinks, then I see no suprises. I honestly think it shows a lack of any football related knowledge to want to appoint souness or his like. He has been muck, bar a couple of average seasons with Blackburn in the last 10 years. He has nothing going for him, and should under no circumstances be approached about the job.

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Most ill informed post on the entire thread. you'd sooner Souness or Veanables then Roy Hodgson???? Are you insane??

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D'er its not stojkovic that posted that. It was a combination.

I don't see Hodgson taking over, he is currently in charge of Finland, who have an outside chance of pipping Poland, Portugal and Serbia to get to Euro 2008.

I think we won't get anyone in till after the 2010 qual. draw. Then who we get might be highly dependant on the group we're in.

what i dont want is someone coming in and saying we are building for 2012, like kerr and staunton did. That crap can only go on for so long.

I noticed someone mentioned how many good coaches/managers have been produced in scotland over the last few years, i was reading something from walter smith about a training school up there for managers/coaches that they all had attended along with the likes of jose mourinho and other big managers. If someone can post it its a good read, as I cant find it.

got this off the site though and couldn't help but laugh: "But the gangster bandwagon that is th F.A.I. is solely to blame for another summer of watching other countries compete in exciting tournaments. Delaney couldnt manage your local Lidl, so to entrust him with ensuring the future of football in Ireland is akin to asking a 4 year old not to eat the bag of sweets you just handed him.
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I think we should look outside Republic of Ireland candidates to get away from people pally with FAI officials, croneyism , and what Dunphy used to call decentskinsmanship. If you want Irish think Northerners. Someone foreign would be best , English or Welsh maybe . A Scottish option might be best look cross channel Alex Ferguson has been the most successful club coach of the last 20 years. There are many other competent Scots coaches operating there. Arsene Wenger's French, but as Houllier the leading available candidate failed as France manager... eh no. Some of the Dutch candidate suggested might be interesting but maybe we should look further afield. German coaches travel well, Serb, Croat etc coaches also travel well someone like Milutinovic might be an option ( he must have been on less money at Costa Rica than Stan is on )

David O'Leary seems to be the bookies favourite - and I don't think he would be a bad choice. Leeds played some fantastic football under him, many players such as Bowyer, Harte, Smith, Viduka, Kewell and Bridges played the best football of their careers under him, and they seemed to have a good team spirit - he created a seige mentality which the players responded positively to.

Aston Villa was a different kettle of fish. He had no money to spend and was burdened with some average players. Yet he still brought through some good young players, (like Ridgewell, Agbonlahor, Davis) and kept them in the Premiership. Many bigger-name managers have endured relegation with big clubs in similar positions.

I'd be happier with a foreign manager, but looking at who's available and who might be interested, I wouldn't be unhappy to see O'Leary in there. He's not to everyone's taste, I know, but he shouldn't be dismissed out of hand.

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Originally Posted by Nipper

They should appoint a three-man team

BRADY
DUNPHY
GILES

Dunphy can play the Mick Byrne role.

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brilliant:):):)

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Originally Posted by Réiteoir

conveniently ignoring the fact that Houllier has a World Cup Winners Medal from Assisting Aime Jacquet in 1998.

Plus looks like any old mug can win 2 French League titles on the bounce... :rolleyes:

Not to mention he was instrumental in the setup of Clairefontaine - which happens to be arguably the finest football academy in the world

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that French team didnt need a manager..they ahd Zidane and one of the best international teams i have ever seen..............despite Jacquet who didnt really know what was going on (man do you not follow these things:eek:)

Lyon were set up by paul le guen.....that was his team............(and the fact french football aint that much..............re cascarino

Houiller? funny, the liverpool fans were so relieved to be shot of him in the end


lets get serious..ireland needs a manager who has experience with international football............and not keep looking to english prenmeir has beens
we need Leo Benhakker, Roy Hodgson, Trouisser, Bora Mutilonannic (spelling!!!)...Greek manager......etc..................these kinds of guys