Aiden McGeady

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Originally Posted by NeilMcD

Yeah no problem should be a good old bash. I cant wait to see the Watford Gap.

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save it for the wedding night

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Originally Posted by Sligo Hornet

Well just goes to prove you shouldn't log off.....I've missed some real entertainment!:D

I was going to defend myself against Youngirish, but it seems my obedient "fag" has carried this out in fine style already!;)

I feel sorry for you Youngirish, as you come across as a a poor little bullied child at times....I hope things improve for you.......perhaps in the meanwhile you should ask for your handle to be amended to the more appropriate "Immatureirish"..

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A poor bullied child who doesn't go to football games? Aiden McGeady a good footballer? Your powers of deduction astound even me. Keep it up.

Seriously give up with these assumptions man. They're not working out for you.

Neil how do you put up with this? He must be magic in the sack.

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Neil how do you put up with this? He must be magic in the sack.

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he makes him laugh.......:D

On the "end product". He's top of the assist stats in the SPL so far:

http://www.scotprem.premiumtv.co.uk/...~20073,00.html

Clips of McGeady vs Hearts last week.

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Quality.

Yeah great control. Necessary showboating. :)

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Sligo Hornet to sum it up in a few words you talk sh*te and I wouldn't listen to your advice or many others on here if my life depended on it. Have a look at my postings in the past on young players and see how many have turned out to be correct. I think I'll be vindicated on this one also. Give it 2 years or so.

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:D Excellent, I agree you have a gift for stating the obvious, then claiming clairvoyant capabilities. But even then you manage to get it wrong.

Given that you think McGeady is "crap", I'm left feeling that your judgement has significant room for refinement. You're not a surgeon or a pilot are you ?

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Originally Posted by Paddy Garcia

:D Excellent, I agree you have a gift for stating the obvious, then claiming clairvoyant capabilities. But even then you manage to get it wrong.

Given that you think McGeady is "crap", I'm left feeling that your judgement has significant room for refinement. You're not a surgeon or a pilot are you ?

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Stating the obvious? Maybe you should actually add your backing to those obvious suggestions that I make at the time when many are slating them instead of coming out after the matter has been settled and doing your usual smartarse I knew that all the time. Thinking about it I've never seen you have an opinion on anything that turned out to be true after the fact. I see you still haven't stated an opinion on McGeady but in 2 years if he's playing for Hamilton in the Scottish 1st division you'll be on here stating you always knew he was rubbish because it was obvious.

I'm constantly going against the grain here so it must be that everyone else lives in fantasyland if I'm the one stating the obvious.

Here's a little tip free of charge, next time you make a statement try to ensure it at the very least has a modicum of truth in it. When you wildly make things up on a forum people can look through previous postings and see you are just being a plonker. The joys of technology. What statements have I made that at the time I made them they were obvious (bar the above)?

You are the Nostradamus of foot.ie.

who did nostradamus play for again?:confused:

Hearts are pants

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Originally Posted by danonion

Hearts are pants

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......and?:confused:

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Originally Posted by danonion

Hearts are pants

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I'm not defending Hearts - it would be a cold day in hell first - but I'd expect them to beat each and every team in the Eircom League.

[dons helmet and retreats to nuclear bunker...]

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

I'm not defending Hearts - it would be a cold day in hell first - but I'd expect them to beat each and every team in the Eircom League.

[dons helmet and retreats to nuclear bunker...]

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of course you would with all the money they have.whats your point? (have you ever even been to ireland by the way?)

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Originally Posted by Scram

about Celtic and Irish support of Celtic, which is simply a long tradition and a very lucrative one from both an Irish and Celtic perspective.

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still waiting for an answer to this Scram.

As for Plastic Paddy, what is the point of your post regarding Hearts? How in the f*ck is it relevant to Aiden McGeadys abilities as a player which is what is being discussed. Was it just a bad attempt at a wind-up? :rolleyes:

There was a link to McGeady (I think)
The references to Hearts started when the McGeady clip against Hearts was posted.

One day we will have uTube clips of McGeady playing for Ireland :)

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

of course you would with all the money they have.whats your point? (have you ever even been to ireland by the way?)

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Very good - did you think of that one yourself? It's this kind of bullsh*t that, after fifteen years, finally stopped me going to Ireland matches - culchies who themselves had barely been out of their home townlands who, once they heard my accent, had the audacity to question my Irishness at pretty much every turn. The only people who never did were those Irish from the north, but then I guess they understood what it means to have to defend your identity from those who would deny it to you. Just like you're trying to do to me here.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

As for Plastic Paddy, what is the point of your post regarding Hearts? How in the f*ck is it relevant to Aiden McGeadys abilities as a player which is what is being discussed. Was it just a bad attempt at a wind-up? :rolleyes:

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Not at all - it was in direct answer to danonion's points about Hearts and sought to address the superiority complex that many eL fans on here actually have about their clubs and they level of football they play. Looks like I hit the bullseye.

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

Very good - did you think of that one yourself? It's this kind of bullsh*t that, after fifteen years, finally stopped me going to Ireland matches - culchies who themselves had barely been out of their home townlands who, once they heard my accent, had the audacity to question my Irishness at pretty much every turn. The only people who never did were those Irish from the north, but then I guess they understood what it means to have to defend your identity from those who would deny it to you. Just like you're trying to do to me here.

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Get therapy if it scarred you that much. nobody cares about your accent. its attitudes like the one below that probably bothered people.

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

Not at all - it was in direct answer to danonion's points about Hearts and sought to address the superiority complex that many eL fans on here actually have about their clubs and they level of football they play. Looks like I hit the bullseye.

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Its not a superiority complex. Its just their clubs. Irish people following Irish clubs. what have you got against that? its a no brainer that "fans" are going to think their particular club is great.

and am not an eircom league fan before you go off on one at me.

Back to McGeady, if I may...

Watching the youtube footage, it's clear that McGeady's a talented footballer, and I wouldn't agree with Dunphy's 'brainless winger' synopsis. I think that Staunton had McGeady repeatedly under instruction to hug the right touchline and put in crosses, when there's potentially a lot more to his game. He looks a lot more comfortable on the left, where he can cut inside.

BTW, An interesting challenge for any new Irish manager will be how to get the best attacking balance out of McGeady, Duff, Ireland (!) and Andy Reid.

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Originally Posted by Supreme feet

BTW, An interesting challenge for any new Irish manager will be how to get the best attacking balance out of McGeady, Duff, Ireland (!) and Andy Reid.

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supreme i agree fully , the key is to allow reid and ireland room to manoevre in that midfield , perhaps having a hard man in there to give them protection, heres to the day when all of them along with steven reid and stephen hunt are available for selection.

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Originally Posted by geysir

There was a link to McGeady (I think)
The references to Hearts started when the McGeady clip against Hearts was posted.

One day we will have uTube clips of McGeady playing for Ireland :)

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They probably already have. Masochistic Irish fans strap themselves to chairs , stick matchsticks between their eyelids and play them over and over again.

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Originally Posted by youngirish

Masochistic Irish fans strap themselves to chairs , stick matchsticks between their eyelids and play them over and over again.

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or alternatively they log on here and read your posts. :p

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Well said, and a professional manager to get the best out of them. Are you even Irish Bill or wha?

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Yes. Yes I am.

Ireland is pants.Super pants

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Originally Posted by Plastic Paddy

Not at all - it was in direct answer to danonion's points about Hearts and sought to address the superiority complex that many eL fans on here actually have about their clubs and they level of football they play. Looks like I hit the bullseye.

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so you took the opportunity to address the "superiority complex" of eL fans by responding to a poster who's only words were "Hearts are pants". Not "Hearts are pants and every eL team would destroy them" nor "Hearts are crap and my irish team would beat them every day of the week" merely "Hearts are pants".

Thats a pretty twisted justification if you ask me. My reading of danonion's post would be that McGeady needs to do his party pieces against better teams than Hearts. I think thats a pretty reasonable interpretation of his post. I still dont see how or why you dragged the eL into this? Bizarre.

Looks like you hit the bullseye alright. :rolleyes:

In fairness the original post 'Hearts are pants' was pretty limited and was only going to wind up fans of Scottish football (ie Celtic fans on this site). If the Mons fan wanted to say he should be doing it against better opposition then he should have said just that. Hearts won that match 0-2 by the way, although they didn't deserve to. They are actually a decent side on their day.

PP,
I applaud your passion for the Irish team. Sickens me when my 2g and 3g mates get stick from my countrymen about their 'authenticity'.

Wonder how Mcgeady feels about it , cries of 'fuk off back to Scotland' coming down from the stands?

McGeady is a hard player to judge.

He looked invisible against the Czechs/Slovaks, but absolutely dominated against Benfica.

He's got ability in abundance, but maybe there are questions around his confidence and consistency.

I think it may just be down to leadership and having good strong characters around him.

You get the feeling with Ireland that they're all looking at each other in the locker room, waiting for someone to take charge, and they were being led by an equally clueless manager.

This is in stark contrast to Celtic where he's got a confident and fiery manager in Strachan, and some good strong characters in the squad such as McManus and Brown who can really lead the way, and I'm sure they've all taken him aside at times and given him a few words of advice.

Some players need a little extra work, and you need managers and senior players to get the best out of these players. When you've got a young player with his kind of ability, it will certainly be worth the effort in the end.

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Originally Posted by irishfan86

McGeady is a hard player to judge.

He looked invisible against the Czechs/Slovaks, but absolutely dominated against Benfica.

He's got ability in abundance, but maybe there are questions around his confidence and consistency.

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I think of all our players , a negative response from the crowd seems to bring out the worst performance in him. a few good games as sub to build his confidance at Ireland level wouldnt do him any harm. comparisons with Duffs early performances are valid. Altho still think going on his performaces as starter so far for Ireland(cyprus; slovakia and czech rep) we cant afford to accomodate someone who contributes nothing defensively.

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Originally Posted by Bottle of Tonic

PP,
I applaud your passion for the Irish team. Sickens me when my 2g and 3g mates get stick from my countrymen about their 'authenticity'.

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Passion for the Irish team but derision for Irish football.:rolleyes: I asked whether he had ever been to Ireland as I wanted to know how he knew so much about Irish football to make the statement he did. For what it is worth I think if someone was forced to emigrate cause they couldnt get a job here then they have every right to bring their children or grandchildren up as Irish.
However if your going to take cheap shots expect cheap shots back.

i would like someone to name me any player who reacts well to a barracking from fans. people who roar at players on thier own team are idiots . opposition players ? now they are fair game !!

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Originally Posted by RogerMilla

i would like someone to name me any player who reacts well to a barracking from fans.

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Roy Keane v Rangers in champions league at Ibrox...

altho think you mean their own fans......yeah I wasnt criticising Mageady for it I was just pointing out it may be a factor.

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i would like someone to name me any player who reacts well to a barracking from fans.

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Roy Keane against Romania in Lansdowne, 2004. He had a really solid game, and after a while, people copped on and stopped booing him.

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Originally Posted by Billsthoughts

Roy Keane v Rangers in champions league at Ibrox...

altho think you mean their own fans......yeah I wasnt criticising Mageady for it I was just pointing out it may be a factor.

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LOL i remember him making a foray up the park , he was gagging for a goal that night..

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Originally Posted by Supreme feet

Roy Keane against Romania in Lansdowne, 2004. He had a really solid game, and after a while, people copped on and stopped booing him.

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The exception that proves the rule...

I didn't even remember I posted that until I saw all the furore I had caused! I was commenting that for a "tricky winger" type of player like McGeady, if he is to be considered a class player he needs to prove himself in a better league.

I would have Mark Kennedy playing for Ireland before McGeady, because McGeady is poor for Ireland every time he plays.

I'm also not trying to condemn Scottish football. I think for certain positions, playing in that league can be very good for a player's international career, like centre-forwards. Same with the Dutch league and the like...scoring a lot of goals builds confidence. But when you skin 37 year old midfielders and defenders, the confidence boost doesn't help so much when some 6'4 German fullback makes a complete arse out of you.

Also I wasn't beating the Eircom League drum by the "pants" comment (although I reckon Mons could win the SPL hai)

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Originally Posted by Tuff Paddy

Roy Keane is god, like. Sure he loved playing for his country so much . . . .

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nice fishing rod ya have there....:rolleyes:
shouldnt you be busy ironing your leprechaun suit for saturday?

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Originally Posted by danonion

I would have Mark Kennedy playing for Ireland before McGeady, because McGeady is poor for Ireland every time he plays.

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Kennedy didn't exactly set the world on fire when he played for Ireland.

Roy Keane was 100% pure bast*rd. That's why booing him made him play better. He got off on it.

On a sidenote McGeady is muck.

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Originally Posted by danonion

I didn't even remember I posted that until I saw all the furore I had caused! I was commenting that for a "tricky winger" type of player like McGeady, if he is to be considered a class player he needs to prove himself in a better league.

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For the time being just let Strachan keep doing what he's doing. :) McGeady will improve a lot more with Strachan coaching him than he will by just coming up against better players on a regular basis imo. He needs the coaching. He needs to be using his brain a lot more and that's something that has been improved on an awful lot under Strachan. I said it a few times but if Strachan got Thomas Gravesen at 19/20 I believe he would have been a world class player. He has everything but the tactical awareness.

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Originally Posted by eirebhoy

For the time being just let Strachan keep doing what he's doing. :) McGeady will improve a lot more with Strachan coaching him than he will by just coming up against better players on a regular basis imo. He needs the coaching. He needs to be using his brain a lot more and that's something that has been improved on an awful lot under Strachan. I said it a few times but if Strachan got Thomas Gravesen at 19/20 I believe he would have been a world class player. He has everything but the tactical awareness.

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Gravesen has everything, especially the looks.

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Originally Posted by SkStu

so you took the opportunity to address the "superiority complex" of eL fans by responding to a poster who's only words were "Hearts are pants". Not "Hearts are pants and every eL team would destroy them" nor "Hearts are crap and my irish team would beat them every day of the week" merely "Hearts are pants".

Thats a pretty twisted justification if you ask me. My reading of danonion's post would be that McGeady needs to do his party pieces against better teams than Hearts. I think thats a pretty reasonable interpretation of his post. I still dont see how or why you dragged the eL into this? Bizarre.

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On reflection, and with danonion's own clarification, yes, your interpretation of his comment is clearly more accurate than mine was. :o

My initial reaction (and the post that followed) was coloured by thoughts of those foot.ie posters who subscribe to the "McGeady/the SPL is crap" school of thought, when in the main these are the type of people who consider a match at the Showgrounds or Turner's Cross to be the absolute last word in entertainment. In retrospect I should have enunciated my thoughts more clearly from the off but I stick by my point, no matter how arcane it appears in context.

On topic, if you want to see McGeady doing his "party pieces" against better teams than Hearts, there's plenty of stuff on YouTube showing the man in action against Benfica and Milan (twice), two of which matches were earlier this season. I think we can both agree that these teams are, in each case, better than the Jambos, don't you?

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