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We know he was fit enough to play 20 minutes at the end of the game. We know enough about football that if he wasn't cleared by the physio he wouldn't have been in the squad.
We know this was more than two years ago now and bringing it up now isn't currently relevant to either the player or the international side. At best, all it serves to do is expose whatever your opinion is of the current managerial setup
Expose? aha, finally we know :)
Maybe this 20 mins against Finland conversation has been exhausted. Let's move on.
First Irish player to score three hat tricks in one season in British football since Anthony Stokes in 2006/07
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Do youse think McGoldrick would still do a job for us? He’s in ridiculously good form this last couple of seasons. It would be great to still have him around the squad.
I've kind of moved on from him given he's down in League 1 now, but I do wonder what might have been if he had gotten his act together earlier in his career and also sorted out his Irish eligibility earlier. He could have been a serious asset to us throughout the 2010s.
Kenny was asked that this week on OTB and said there's no chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I've zero interest in him at this point. He could have helped us in last couple years and wouldn't. He's playing in L1, not like he was extending his Champions League career or something by quiting international football
Yeah, I’m not starting a campaign or anything. Was more just wondering if he’d still add value to us even just to be around the squad. But as you point out he probably just doesn’t really give a toss about us.
Agree with Eirambler above too. He wasted a lot of time getting his paperwork sorted for us and I think would have been useful for us then.
If you watch Kennys OTB interview, I think he left something unsaid about Didsys exit, just an opinion, but an interesting moment in the conversation.
Did he depart the scene around the time of that storm in a thimble about the Irish history video lesson ? Or have I got that wrong
McGoldrick has four kids and they're Nottingham based, it's why he turned down Middleborough to sign with Derby. Wouldn't blame him for stepping back from international football to spend more time with his family and pretty sure read somewhere that he separated from his partner before he retired from Ireland which played a role.
Pity it turned out the way it did because he'd still do a job for us but think he was injured for most of last season anyway.
He retired after the play off game which was the month before.Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
No, I think you’re right there Crafty on the timing of the English game and his retirement. Definitely recall it being around the same time. And, yeah, there was always an element of surprise or weirdness in how and when he retired.
Fair enough - that makes sense too.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
FAI put the statement out he retired on Nov 4th actually which was the week before the November internationals. Assume he'd have spoken with Kenny in the month before the announcement to talk about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
When ya think about it, he wasn't that keen in the first place considering how long it took him to get his paper work sorted out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Or the fact he was adopted as a kid and didn't know he qualifed might have played a role.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
I haven't been watching him but it sounds like he is bang in form alright and some of the highlights are quality. The turn and assist last weak was lovely.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
I've said elsewhere I wish Kenny had done more to keep him in the picture but I obviously don't know how possible it was. He was one of Mick's best players and would have been great to pair with whichever two of our sporadically available up and comers were available. He can link and create and we don't have many who can do both. Worked his socks off for us as well. If he's close to his previous levels he'd be great to have. Get Obafemi and Ferguson playing off him and around him and we'd be in decent shape.
But that ship seems to have long since sailed. Now I'd be building the front 3 around Ferguson.
Bazunu, Collins, Cullen, Ferguson. That's a decent spine to work with that should be around a long while and I'd prefer if we just focused on that now. Hopefully Obafemi gets himself properly going as well. I see he got on for 28 mins today. A report says he made an impact from the left but it ended scoreless.
He didn't hang around for very long to make up for lost time though.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
He wasn't that interested in playing for Ireland as was proven. That's fine , if he doesn't want to play then that's fine ~ Let some one who does want to play for Ireland play.
Saw a bit of thankless hard work ahead with whatever reward (if any) came after it all going to the youngsters coming through behind him & high tailed it back to England Seanie :)Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
In this day and age it's almost surprising that more players don't call it a day from international football sooner especially if you are playing for smaller countries, football wise ( like the Republic of Ireland )Quote:
Originally Posted by CraftyToePoke
I expect players get a lot of grief about not getting injured ( pulling hamstrings and the like ) and not putting in too much effort from clubs that may well be paying them a lot of money.
You just saying this doesn't prove anything, you know that right, it's just your opinion, not a proven fact. And big whoop if he only stuck around for six years. Is he meant to put in a solid ten years before he can sail off into the sunset before he's proven himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanfhear
14 caps only and 8 of them came in his final 19 months as an Ireland player. Doubt if he didn't want to play for Ireland he could have walked well before Mick made him a starter when he wasn't getting picked, unless he was injured a lot or could have went to play with Scotland instead who he turned down and would have gotten more caps with.
Or, after giving it a go, he decide that it wasn't for him ~ Which he is perfectly entitled to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by JR89
There has been some Irish players in the past that said ~ You don't retire from playing for Ireland, meaning that Ireland does not have a large playing pool, and if you were needed ~ You would turn up and play ~ If you were able to contribute in any way.
There's very little there that would constitute any kind of proof that he wasn't "interested" in continuing to play international football. It could have been any one of a number of reasons.
Is it time to resign this thread to the international section? He certainly won’t impact our future irish fortunes, and overall he had limited impact when he did play. Discussion about a league one retiree is redundant to me
I don't think we've traditionally done that to any retired player's thread, have we?
Nope, thread stays here, same as every other retired player thread
https://youtu.be/6zkL91LzCMc?t=84Quote:
Originally Posted by tommy_c12000
A goal every 119 minutes so far in 2022/23, the best strike rate in League 1. Not surprisingly, Derby want McGoldrick (35) to stay on after his 12 month contract expires at the end of this season. (FLW, 20 April). Contract talks have begun, but as his next contract may well be his last, McGoldrick may wait to see whether Derby can get into the play-offs and get past Sheffield Wednesday and/or Barnsley to return to the Championship.
Turned down a move to Middleborough to join Derby as it's closer to his family. I'd say he'll be happy to stay where he is.
Hardly a surprise ..... McGoldrick wins Derby Co. Player of the Season award.
Now linked with a move to Notts County (EFL 2).
Started his career at Notts County.
Officially signs for Notts County.
That's a bit unexpected! Not often Player of the Season immediately drops a division, even if Notts County do seem to have a bit of cash
Maybe a steal by the Magpies.
Wrexham and Notts County could end up having the same battle again next season at the top of the table, just a division higher this time around.
Two goals today in a mental 5-5 draw away against Grimsby.
Notts equalised three times, coming from 2-0, 3-2 and 4-3 down. McGoldrick's 91st minute second looked to have won it, but Harry Wood came on in the 93rd minute for Grimsby and equalised in the 94th.
Notts are the leading scorers in the division (60 in 27 games, with 11 for McGoldrick), but only three teams have conceded more than their 52. They've seen more than 4 goals per game this season. In September, they had a 4-3 win and a 5-4 defeat in successive weeks; their four games since Christmas have ended 3-0, 5-0, 2-4 and 5-5. Good value for money anyway, plus they're in the playoff spots as things stand.
A beautiful footballer who may have been more appreciated playing in a European League. Even at this age I wonder how he’d look if he was miraculously teleported into a Manchester City team. Not saying he could seriously play at that level, but for a few fleeting moments he wouldn’t look out of place.