The standard of amateur football has never been worse. Pike, while they wouldn't care to admit it, are also playing at a lower level than Kilbarrack (who we played in the previous round) are.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
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The standard of amateur football has never been worse. Pike, while they wouldn't care to admit it, are also playing at a lower level than Kilbarrack (who we played in the previous round) are.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I watched the first few minutes as I'd got word of some interesting bets over the previous 48 hours, did I hear the commentator saying Pike were missing a few key players? The word was obviously out before the game that these lads were missing. Some of the lads playing didn't look too fit.
3 Pike Rovers players were called up to train for a Munster team and weren’t allowed to play,which is right on brand for the people who run those kind of teams!Quote:
Originally Posted by outspoken
They were missing two - goalkeeper Gary Neville (not joking) and defender Adam Lipper. There was a third player, Conor Coughlan, but he has left Pike all together. Robbie Williams (Player/Manager) opted just to be the manager on the night, Red Hanlon was on the bench but didn't play.
As it was a training camp there was no grounds to get the game called off, and even if they were playing, it wouldn't have been much if any better on the scoreline.
The Limerick District League started on Thursday night (Pike obviously didn't play), but there can't be any pre-season excuses seeing as the game coincided with their season starting, as well as the fact that Pike had better prep than most with two competitive games against Villa and Midleton in the prior rounds.
No Treaty fan will be getting carried away after that result, but it's nice to soften the cough of certain junior heads.
I think it says more about us than anything else. We're capable of being quite good, but rarely are. That was one of our worst performances of the season, and we were very fortunate to keep a clean sheet. If that was in the PD, we'd have lost by a few.Quote:
Originally Posted by harry crumb
That is some table, and great work on the stats. Just as well its not compiled pre 2002, as Dundalk still have the record I think, 7 defeats by NL clubs in the FAI Cup and some notable ones too.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
1983 (as defending League Champs) lost away to Cobh Ram, first round.
1991 (we would be that seasons League Champs) - lost at home to Ashtown Villa, early or first round.
2001 (we would win FAI Cup a year later) - lost away to Malahide Utd, early or first round again, bizarre set up as due to foot and mouth, no away fans allowed, I got in mind !
I'm almost sure no club is even close to the 7 defeats, could be wrong.
Crikey - Sligo, with six wins in their last seven games, are 2-0 down at home to UCD!
Did not see this coming
Wow! The First division showing up this weekend!
Kerry for the cup !!
Yeah, some of the comments about the first division standard not looking so smart now. Let's not finish 9th Bohs.
I wonder how many the Drogheda/Wexford final will attract!!!
What a win for the students! Could be us gone tomorrow. Whoever finishes 9th in the PD should be a little more worried than they were before the weekend.
Premier Division 1-2 First Division
Derry and Shels will be expected to make the final as long as they avoid each other. There will be at least 4 First Division clubs in the quarter-finals. Athlone and UCD are comfortably 2nd and 3rd. The current playoff structure gives these clubs more leeway to challenge in the cup, without majorly impacting on making the playoffs.
2nd in the First Division beating 3rd from the Premier away and 3rd in the First Division beating 4th from the Premier away are great results against the odds.
If that is us, I had already done the homework on Athlone and UCD as the standouts, on a one off game, anything could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by ger121
To get to the play off, I'd bite the hand off now, but for the actual PO Final, I'd be taking nothing for granted, a glimmer of hope we have never lost one, beat Waterford twice (97 and the later to be 'it didn't matter by FAI in 06 or 07, enter Maxi with a can of petrol), but wouldn't be counting my chickens for sure if we made the final this year.
Congrats Stu, that is some win, Ronan Finn rolling back the years.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
We were brutal. Missed a couple of great chances in the second half and then UCDs first was a great goal. They were good. Well organised and a thorn in our side like they have been for 45 years.
That's a shocking result for sligo. The form team in the country, they could have strolled into the final considering who's left in.
Delighted for Finner who's a good bloke.
Unless Bohs meet Sligo or Derry in the final it's going to be sub 15k attendance at the final
Are Sligo appealing then??Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
I've never found sligo even slightly appealing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
That table is exactly the data I wanted when I was saying that we could do with re-jigging the cup structure to try and engineer more FD vs NL ties in round one and two. I think the numbers here would have a chance of increasing if all 9 of these ties in each of the past 3 years were against FD instead of PD clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by total hoofball
Results in the Waterford and Sligo games has made the shootout loss to Shels much tougher in retrospect.
Draw will be very interesting because if any of Shels, Derry and Bohs* draw each other there's a lot of other teams who'll suddenly fancy there chances of making the semis.
Getting ahead of things, but the cup final and playoff final are down for the same weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by legendz
Don't think it's ever been an issue in the past?
Finn is overageQuote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
Mea culpa , I meant to write Shels not Sligo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dermobohs
Although how stupid am I suggesting boez could get to the cup final eh!:)
Though Treaty did threaten to force the issue a few seasons back when they reached the Cup semis.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
And if the non-league clubs were automatically given home advantage, as happens in the French and German cups - might seem a cosmetic measure, but the PD/FD teams having to travel would reduce the gap slightly, even if not levelling the playing field to a huge extent.Quote:
Originally Posted by yurt
Shels highlights didn’t show the 3 penalty shouts and 2 disallowed goals from Fridays game . Would have loved to see them.
I would guess 99% of non league grounds are unfit to hold any sort of decent crowds
Nothing stopping you from watching the game back on LOITV. Our first penalty shout was a blatant dive and Jimmy should've been booked. Cunningham also blocked a cross with his hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by gufct
Hopefully it will be 2 out of Derry Bohs and Shels in the final, and even then, I don’t think it will get anywhere near last seasons crowd. It’s a shame, we need the cup final to be a major occasion every year. What was the attendance for Derry/Shels 2 years ago ? Maybe a Dublin Derby of Bohs/Shels might craw a good crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by placid casual
Maybe we should just let the teams with the biggest fan bases compete in it then ? The crowd will be the crowd but I hope another group of supporters who haven’t had a good day out recently get to experience one this year…..Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
Not yet. AFAIK the playoff final will be rescheduled if a playoff finalist makes the cup final. Some provision like that was mentioned many years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by brendy_éire
Wexford have played two non league teams so far and could be playing athlone, ucd, treaty (maybe kerry :) ) in the quarter final. Luck of the draw
Ten years ago we got to a semi final by beating Belgrove,Wexford and Avondale in a replay! Got hockeyed in the Semi 6-1 by Pats but it was a catalyst for us and got people engaged again,that was kinda of my point above,big days can make a difference for smaller clubs !Quote:
Originally Posted by sbgawa
I get where you’re coming from, and of course it’s great for supporters of clubs like Harps to reach a cup final. At the same time though, you can’t deny that, for instance, a Wexford v UCD final would be an awful look for the domestic game. Not saying that the bigger clubs don’t have to earn the right to be there, of course they do. Last year just showed what the league here (and the cup final) could be.Quote:
Originally Posted by joey B
We’ll agree to disagree Tony!Quote:
Originally Posted by TonyD
1-1 in Kerry,Kerry’s equaliser looked fairly clearly offside though….
2-1 to Bohs now, sadly Kerry have been making a habit of conceding soon after scoring, but certainly not out of it yet!
Can't understand how the Kerry commentators could say it was 'just onside' - I guess they might not have a straight face saying it?
Mind you, we're poor - nervy stuff which is unsurprising given our league form.
Wow just seen a replay of the Kerry “goal”.
Ffs it’s two yards off, Neil”the hoop” obviously ****ed off .yet another obvious call missed by a Lino in the loi, truly the worst officials anywhere.
Bohs have been way too slow so far, Kerry doing quite nicely, couple of tidy players there. Some rapid improvement from when I last saw them midway through last season, great to see.
Ah lads, that's a free out? No?