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Originally Posted by Indo
Meanwhile Brady wants Kerr back.
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Originally Posted by Liam Brady
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Originally Posted by Indo
Meanwhile Brady wants Kerr back.
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Originally Posted by Liam Brady
Seriously doubt that Kerr would be interested at this stage - he's 70 years old - and he hasn't managed a team since he left the Faroes 12 years ago.
Half a million a year is hard to turn down
at least he'd be off punditry. don't think Brian has the patience for mgmt anymore though. he's gone awful sour the past few years.
I know a fella that stopped watching and supporting Ireland after the 'treatment' (his words) Kerr got in the job. I agree that Kerr wasn't treated all that well, but I'll support Ireland regardless. Anyway, if Kerr gets the job, that's the fan base up by at least one so maybe worth considering.
What I could see happening is that Kerr being part of Chris Hughton's backroom team if Hughton got the job - reversing their roles from when Kerr was manager. Hughton regularly hired Colin Calderwood to be his assistant - but Calderwood is assistant at Southampton now (part of the reason the Southampton defence is playing a lot better - he joined them in October).Quote:
Originally Posted by texidub
I'd like to see him involved somwehere, but would he want it? His pride was hurt, I think, and he didn't get the same levels of understanding Kenny got. It's all a bit weird, but he has a lot of knowledge and experience to bring especially w/ young players.
Kerr had an far more talented squad than Kenny - prime Robbie Keane, Duff, Given, Andy O'Brien playing Champions League football with Newcastle - and with greater depth - remember Richard Dunne couldn't get into the team! - and he couldn't win a competitive game against any team in the top eighty in the world, never scored more than three in a game - and only managed that twice - and I don't think I will ever understand taking off Robbie Keane at home when we needed a goal at home against Switzerland in what turned out to be his final game in charge.
Did he really do anything to show he deserved a new contract?
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Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
No he didn't and doesn't deserve to be considered now.
As you say he had very good players and an easy group and he blow it
This is lunacy tbh, he hasn't been in management for years and that was with the Faroes an amateur team.
Given who was brought in to replace him I think Kerr could justifiably argue he deserved another two years at the time. But it would be lunacy to consider bringing him back now.
I think kerr could more than justifiably argue that his replacement was terrible, but that to me is not relevant. Kerr was correctly sacked and should have been replaced by a better experience professional managerQuote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Stephen Kelly makes a case for Hughton.
https://www.rte.ie/sport/soccer/2023...stood-hughton/
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People will think Chris is a throwback, but he’s not an old-school manager," he said. "Chris is a scholar of the game, constantly learning, constantly improving.
"He has a wealth of experience. You just have to look at what he has done with teams in and around the Championship, and that’s where I’d put our team (Ireland), a top-end Championship side, who he could get the best out of.
"Hughton has done that with Newcastle, done amazing things with Birmingham City (got the club to the play-offs in his only season in charge), put Brighton into the position they are in now.
"I think he’s someone that could really work and with his wealth of experience, it might be the way to go.
I always felt Kerr never really found his best team and never really got his team playing good football.
The decision to play Duffer as a 10 was a failure (I think Kerr described as “the free role”. I know he was essentially trying to replace Roy’s presence by putting our best player in a place where he could have more of an impact, but instead of that, he essentially played his best player in a position where he wasn’t comfortable.
With total hindsight, you’d wonder what would have happened had he tried to bed a LOI playing Wes into that side (age 21-23 and SPL based from 23 on). He was called up by Don Givens in the squad between Mick and Brian Kerr - so it’s not totally outrageous
Kerr stuff is nonsense. I'll never get past his last game in charge when we needed to beat the Swiss. He subbed Robbie Keane and Clinton Morrison and we finished the game with Gary Doherty and Steven Elliot up front. This on top of his decision to take Duff off the left wing and put him up front at home to Israel. He was unplayable on the wing that day and became totally ineffective up front.
Kerr was rightly sacked at the time, what followed didnt make that decision wrong and his bitterness in recent years has made him thoroughly unlikable
Game changer if true. He'd be in pole position for me, never thought he would be realistic option.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I'm sure he'd do a very good job for about six months before leaving us for Belgium, Portugal, Crystal Palace or someone else.
Can't see that one happening. Bayern had to pay a 7 figure sum to get him on board 8x months ago and just going to let him walk for free? I'd imagine it's a case of we want him but can't afford him. He would also earn much more if he took a coaching role in the Championship which he is touted of being linked to several clubs.
Could see this being a bit of name dropping from the FAI to soften the blow when a less popular manager is chosen - e.g. Hughton. A kind of "we tried for Barry but we couldn't get him so it's not our fault if you don't like Hughton" kind of thing.
I dont see how that could make anything better...if anything it would make it even worse by showing us what we "could" have had.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirambler
Also the FAI are not in the fan's good books so I dont see how "trying" is going to make things better.
This would be great. I'd happily let him stay on in an assistant role with bayern to see out his bayern contract. Be great to have a manager involved at champions league elite level club on a day to day basis and bringing that evolving experience to the national role. Its a win for everyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
That Israel game was very unlucky, we dominated them playing lovely football as I remember it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
We did, but Kerr's teams had an awful habit of sitting back on their leads and being punished for it. If we'd kept playing lovely ball we'd have beaten them home and away and qualified handily
I always felt he was unlucky but I was biased as I had loved his underage age work as we all had. I never felt that about Kenny cause I didn't actually think he had any underage interest really just that he took the 21s as it was part of the deal to be senior manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I don't think anyone is seriously suggesting that Kerr should be manager again - more that he would have insights to offer in some role around the team/FAI.
We were unlucky in that we gave away a soft penalty, there's little you can do about that, and a once in a career header to equalise, and let's not forget Awat in goals getting O'Brien sent offQuote:
Originally Posted by liamoo11
But Kerr made his own bad luck by moving Duff up front, when he was dominating the left wing, moving Kilbane out of midfield, where he was solid, and bringing on Kavanagh, when Stephen Elliott was sitting on the bench. Kerr claimed at the time that Eliott wasn't fit, but he played 90 minutes three days later against the Faroes.
Barry would be a really positive and forward thinking move by the FAI. So I'll prepare for Big Sam.
Of the names in realistic contention only Barry & Carsley sound like potentially positive moves, all the others can get in the bin, I don’t see how it will make us better.
Barry sounds like a perfect appointment the more I think about it.
I am sure if he had an opportunity to do things differently he probably would.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
Don't forget - Kerr had a decent run as Faroes manager - with a population the size of Dundalk - they beat Lithuania and Estonia, drew with Luxembourg away and Northern Ireland at home - and gave both France and Italy one hell of a fright with both lucky to get out of the Faroes with a 1-0 win. And he laid some very good foundations for the team that helped Lars Olsen who replaced him. Indeed Lars Olsen mightn't be a bad option if he was interested in the job.
I mean, virtually any of the rumoured managers would make us better than we have been. Any manager that comes in and sets up the team with a modicum of common sense will at least achieve that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CSAD
I'd be very surprised if Barry ends up being the man.
Thing is - the Israel game was his opportunity to do something different. The injury to Keane meant he had to make a change up front, but he didn't need to move Duff or Kilbane.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jolly Red Giant
Kenny Cunningham was suspended for the last game in the Euro 2004 qualifying group, away to Switzerland, so he moved John O'Shea to centre half, and played Harte at full back, i.e. two unforced changes, when just replacing Cunningham with Andy O'Brien was the simpler change. We lost that game, without ever looking like taking anything from it.
I'm not saying that playing O'Brien against Switzerland or playing Elliott against Israel would have meant taking anything from either game, I'm saying that he didn't learn from the mistake of unforced errors
From the comments Hill made about getting the friendlies in place for our new manager don't think Barry would be a realistic option. I don't see him walking away from Portugal before the Euros this summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Unless the FAI is happy for whatever backroom team would be assembled to take charge for the friendlies with Barry officially coming in after the Euros. It's s also hard seeing him walk away from Bayern to takeover as manager and not sure the FAI would consider a head coach that double jobs. Though given the situation we find ourselves in it wouldn't be the worst thing in the world for them to consider.
Hopefully there is truth to the Barry approach. Regardless of whether he’d be interested or not, encouraging that this is the type of candidate being considered. Much better imo to be seeking a fresh, forward thinking candidate looking to build his career in management, rather than somebody near/ in retirement with no real incentive to push the envelope.
JP McManus just donated €32m to the GAA. €1m for each county. Imagine what €1m would do for each LOI club and maybe €5m for a decent manager ;)
Maybe we (i.e., football) should have shut up about how we should get more of the betting tax at the expense of na capaill.
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What a pwick. How much did he dump into United too over the years he was involved? Yet he gives to GAA...Quote:
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Maybe the Utd thing mentally damaged him !Quote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Stoke reportedly have made an approach for Carsley today.
If he wants to kill his senior managerial career before it even gets started then Stoke would be a good move.Quote:
Originally Posted by culloty82