And Matty Holland stays on stage for the next pairing - Matt Holland A v Portugal, 2000 and Darron Gibson H v Wales, 2011.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_9f5-6Bvc0
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And Matty Holland stays on stage for the next pairing - Matt Holland A v Portugal, 2000 and Darron Gibson H v Wales, 2011.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_9f5-6Bvc0
And just to confirm, still taking votes on -
Glenn Whelan H v Italy, 2009 v Wes Hoolahan N v Sweden, 2016 (Currently 6-6)
Jason McAteer H v Holland, 2001 v Alan McLoughlin A v Northern Ireland, 1993 (currently 5-7)
Reasons for your votes are encouraged! They just make it more interesting.
g whelan / mcateer
r whelan / holland (portugal)
Whelan over Holland. Ok he shinned it, but acrobatic volleys into the top corner against a top quality keeper have to be rewarded.
Holland over Gibson. Tough one, but I'll go for a perfect strike with the outside of the boot rather than the inside of it.
Whelan - it has to be. It's too spectacular of a strike to ignore, even if Holland's goal should be appreciated just for the sheer pressure Ireland were under at the time.
Gibson - Similar goals, but I just find this one a bit more impressive, the way it just flies into the top corner. Makes me wonder about the scorer again: a real what might have been of a player, if he had been able to properly stake a place at Man Utd under Alex Ferguson.
Whelan over Holland (v Cameroon). No explanation needed really, just a far superior goal.
Holland (v Portugal) over Gibson. Similar enough standard of goal, but the importance of Holland's makes it the clear winner. It was so out of the blue as well when we appeared to be slumping to an inevitable defeat.
Ronnie Whelan over Matt Holland. Holland's was a tidy finish but Whelan's was different class.
Matt Holland over Darron Gibson. Very little between these two, both very similar goals so the greater importance of Holland's in a qualifier swings it for me.
Ronnie Whelan & Matt Holland
Double Dutch.
Holland and Holland
Holland
Holland
Did you vote that way just so you could say "Double Dutch"? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by SkStu
Very very tight in the opening two games - 7-6 in each. Not going to say who's leading in case it swings any more votes!
Not so tight in the other two, though Ronnie Whelan v USSR has had somebody vote against it for the first time in the competition.
Next two matches tomorrow morning, as well as the result of the first two matches.
I did - and i would like to thank you for making it possible :DQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
(i really didn't - Whelans was a shinner, Hollands was a clean, beauty of a strike - - both high profile games in their own right - - build up was a bit caveman for both so the cleanliness of the strike is what swung it for me)
As an aside, id be disappointed if Hoolohan's goal didnt make it at the expense of Whelan's. Both good goals, of course, but the build up and context of Wes' goal is so much better (in my opinion!).
Ronnie Whelan one of those epic goals, perfect timing and technique, both qualities which stand a man to the good in other (more/less?) important spheres of life.
Matt Holland not only a brilliant strike from the newcomer, but broke the will of a star studded Portugal team and crowned a very solid morale boosting away performance by Ireiand. And Holland scored quite a few goals of that standard, no fluke.
Holland & Holland.
Controversial vote there from the poster named after Euro 88!
Anyways, we have our first two quarter-finalists, both triumphing on 7-6 scorelines. Glenn Whelan H v Italy, 2009 and Alan McLoughlin v Northern Ireland, 1993 are both through. It's a blankety-blank chequebook and pen for Wes Hoolahan N v Sweden, 2016 and Jason McAteer H v Holland, 2001
The unintelligble language/clothing retailer ties of Holland & Holland are both still open; Matty is up against Ronnie Whelan and Darron Gibson. These aren't as close, but votes still taken.
The next two pairs are -
Andy Reid H v Cyprus 2005 v Aiden McGeady A v Georgia, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsE2v_z3rvA&t=0m24s
Time is 0:24; time-stamped link is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHjf0nWN0_0
Similar finishes - does McGeady's creation of space trump Reid's distance?
And today's other tie is Kevin Doyle A v Slovakia, 2007 up against the last set-piece standing, Ian Harte H v Israel, 2005.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vVu9Q2EgHc
So as before, reasons encouraged! The last of the last 16 ties will be up tomorrow, and then into the quarter-finals on Monday.
And just to confirm - still taking votes on Matt Holland N v Cameroon, 2002 v Ronnie Whelan N v USSR, 1988 and Matt Holland A v Portugal 2000 v Darron Gibson H v Wales, 2011.
McGeady - the set-up is much better and tbh I think the keeper should do better with Reid's.
Doyle - Not that I have something against set-pieces, but I think Doyle's strike is largely as good Harte's, but done without having the time to set yourself, examine where the keeper is standing, consider a bend, etc.
Even though I voted for Ronnie Whelan's goal, the shin aspect does take away from it massively in terms of its greatness, for me anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Anyway...
McGeady - easy choice, probably the most skillful goal we've ever scored. Reid's was excellent too but no comparison really. Not to mention the relative importance and timing of the two goals.
Doyle - I was behind the goals for this (my first away game) but just a much better goal anyway. To get so much power with so little back lift, and with his weaker foot from that distance, unreal. As mentioned earlier, I think Harte's should've been saved.
Yeah but I’m not Hannover88! Just think, my nickname here might be Hans, not Stutts. I prefer the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
But my rationale? I was behind the goal in Niigata. It was a beaut. He just stroked it, started outside the post and it curled back just inside, despite hitting it with the inside of his foot. It rescued our campaign. But for sheer “where did that come from” exuberance and that “moment in time” Whelan’s was hard to beat for sure.
And enough people have voted for shinners lately :)
And next up, McGeady and Doyle for me.
Two of the most TV friendly goals we have ever scored.
I can't view youtube at work & can't really remember Harte's goal (I assume a trademark free kick?), but I'll never forget the other two.
mcgeady
doyle
McGeady
Doyle
Ps is it too late to change my previous vote to Whelan and Holland?
Is that to hide the fact that you couldn't come up with a good pun? :p
Yeah, can do alright.
Just as well we didn't beat the Dutch, eh, Gelsenkirchs? :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Stuttgart88
McGeady & Doyle.
McGeady - I'm a self-appointed cheerleader, and I don't think he's ever got the credit he's deserved during a drab (footballing wise) part of our history.
The goal was peak McGeady. Nobody else we've had in my time playing for us, would have thought of attempting the spin, never mind trying it, and his shot was perfect.
all in the final minute of a must win game.
That it was in old USSR topped it off. Where he best performed in his club career.
Love you Aiden
Doyle's goal....where to start. I've lost count of the number of times I've watched it, and I still don't know how he's managed to get the ball to move in that direction, that quickly, and that sweetly, from the way he's kicked it. A piece of pure beauty.
McGeady and Doyle for me too. The technique from McGeady sets his goal apart from Reid's and Doyle's goal for me is miles ahead of Harte's.
It might have led to Munich88 though.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
McGeady/Doyle
McGeady, he outmessies Messi.
Doyle, A dubious Dudu right handed attempted save, takes away a few slivers of sheen from Harte's glory strike.
Whelan - Iconic, between himself and Van Basten I must have nearly broken my neck hundreds of times!
Holland - Peach of a goal, nice little build up, great strike. Edges the Gibson one because of the combination of power and accuracy.
McGeady - The little bit of skill for the turn tips it in his favour.
Doyle - On his bad foot, ridiculous power and accuracy.
So no contest really in the second of the last 16 double-headers. Ronnie Whelan N v USSR, 1998 strolls to a 9-2 win over Matt Holland N v Cameroon, 2002, though will still be joined there by Matt Holland, as his goal A v Portugal, 2000 trumps Darron Gibson H v Wales 10-1.
Also unanimous support for Aiden McGeady A v Georgia, 2014 and Kevin Doyle A v Slovakia, 2007 in the next two matches - both 10-0 up, but still time for that to change. Or, well, for a consolation vote or two to come along.
Maybe the last of the last 16 ties will be tighter? We start with two goals, neither of which I'd see as a last 8 contender to be honest - but one will be there. It's Ray Houghton N v Italy, 1994 against Shane Long H v Germany, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGQplbF_akc
And the final pairing is two goals, either of which is a genuine last 8 contender I think. But only one will make it. Is it to be Robbie Keane H v Israel, 2005 or Jason McAteer A v Holland, 2000?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r9x68LLAKs&t=0m14s
Time is 0:14; time-stamped link is here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVV-f9LoSLw&t=2m28s
Time is 2:28; time-stamped link is here.
You should've seeded the draw :p Seriously though, I wouldn't have a problem with either being there given their importance and both very good goals in their own way.Quote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I'll go for Shane Long - Interesting tie actually but this just swings it for me, although it's kind of hard to justify it given the significance of Houghton's goal. It was just such an unexpected tonic after soaking up so much pressure, against the World Champions and arguably best goalkeeper in the world. It felt like we'd finally arrived at the new stadium too, long overdue, and our first significant victory over a powerhouse in so long. And obviously it was a brilliant finish and I would have really hated for Scotland to have qualified ahead of us. Houghton's was an unusual kind of goal, the way it fell for him and it only took a sort of half contact effort to do the trick with Pagliuca stranded well off his goalline, but credit Razor for that I guess. I suppose it was so early in the game too that we couldn't get too carried away.
Robbie Keane - McAteer's is a lovely move and finish but Keane's is probably the most difficult finish in football, with the ball coming over his head like that, top class, not to mention the pass from Reid.
I'll go for Houghton for the first one, one of the truly iconic Irish goals, even if there was a hint of a deflection to take it over Pagliuca.
Second one is tougher but I'll go for McAteer. As much for the two back flicks in the build up as the finish, which was also quality. Keane's goal was excellent too to be fair, and I would have voted for it ahead of either of the goals in the first match up.