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A couple of the papers said Brady was one of the senior players to speak up for Kenny, along with Duffy and Coleman. I'd imagine most of the footballing players in the squad will be happy with the way things are going. Might be your more hit and rush players like Shane Long who don't like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bungle
Especially is he is getting Hit ~ ~ Isn’t it Kick and Rush !Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Yep, it’ll be Allardyce, or Pardew,or someone of that ilk. I know the results have been poor, but I really don’t think people are giving Kenny a fair chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Charlie Darwin
Pardew is the new director of football at CSKA Sofia, believe it or not
Duff walks.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FAIreland...57562146152450
Ireland under Kenny looks a bit of a sinking ship at the moment.
Let's just hope that retirements can be kept down to a minimum.
Or he got a good offer from somewhere elseQuote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Who else has left other than Duff? McGoldrick - that's it I think?Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Alan Kelly tooQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
This has to be the case? I can't envisage anything else. He has a great reputation so he could easily get a good gig.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Has he? I thought he just sat out the last trio of games (for asthma/covid/leaking the video/whatever reasons)?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
That was my 1st thought when I read it. We'll find out soon enough but seems some lads want to immediately jump on the every thing is sh1te under Kenny narrativeQuote:
Originally Posted by Olé Olé
He has played under Mourinho, Allardyce and Hodgson in the Premiership. Probably has mates in the championship. There's the Celtic job in the future. A lot of possibilities. It would take a very strong explanation for this given results, Robbie and leaving Celtic.
Maybe that was it. Wasn't nothing said sinceQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
I'd be surprised if, for example, Alan Kelly remained in his role. But members of the coaching staff can be replaced with others of commensurate ability.
The worry has to be that, as with McGoldrick, who still had a lot to contribute, other players start to defect. There have already been rumours circulating about Randolph deciding to call it a day, which would be a huge blow.
Our resources are already very slim.
Yeah, that's fair, and I guess we'll see what happens Kelly in March.
I don't get a sinking ship vibe off the squad though - albeit that the ship is so rickety at the moment anyway that any departure is amplified.
Randolph is an older sub keeper for his club, hardly a disaster if we replace him with a younger sub keeper... some including me think it should happen anywayQuote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
Let's see what the ship looks like after he's had a few games with his 1st choice players and not 5 different guys dropping out every game because of covidQuote:
Originally Posted by pineapple stu
Still crap with no forwards! :p
But yeah, I'm not too concerned (yet) about the autumn form for that reason.
Why wouldn't Duff just say "i miss club football " I'm going to Barcelona or home farm or whatever .... i think he has quit tbh
How do u know that. All we got is a press release from the FAI. Duff hasn't said anything publicly yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Exactly?? That's my point
The narrative from the Kenny lobby used to be 'our former managers did us down, we do have the players and are capable of playing good football'. After a string of poor results and performances this stance has dramatically shifted to 'we don't have the players, we're s**t, so why should we expect any better?'
Thus leading to the inevitable question: why the ardour for Kenny?
If we really are quite so awful - so lacking in quality - it really oughtn't to matter who is in charge. Our situation is hopeless in any case.
Are you talking about our next-in-line, Kelleher?Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Kelleher has made one league appearance in his entire career, and is yet to make a senior international appearance.
I think it reasonably uncontroversial to suggest Randolph has made made rather more league and international appearances than that and that his non-availability would be very significantly to our detriment.
He's already involved in club football too. He's Shelbournes under-17 manager.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
Well I don't think anybody is arguing that he's quit. That's kind of what the press release is announcing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diggs246
I mean he is leaving without securing another job
He has a job already, and I'm not sure what anyone can glean about potential other jobs because he's said nothing.
He isnt leaving the rep of Ireland set up to concentrate on shelies u17s.!
"No reason has been given for Duff's departure, although it is understood he was unhappy at an investigation launched into a video shown to the Ireland players before their friendly against England at Wembley in November last year." - RTE.ie
He was unhappy that there was an investigation and didn't want to work with the FAI or he was unhappy at the results of the investigation? I'm assuming it's the former?
Maybe Duffer was the person who put the video together
All that Hoo Ha Ha about that Video seemed to be greatly exaggerated by elements in the FAI ~ ~ Did any head roll for those manipulations = = Pretty Sure No ~ This is Ireland after all !Quote:
Originally Posted by elatedscum
Sometimes the elements within are the most insidious !
Just on videogate, Roy Barrett addressed the matter for the first time in public last week and admitted the whole thing was overblown: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.the...n2021/%3famp=1
Little insight on this in the Indo today from Dan McDonnell but that "it's believed attempts by Kenny and (sic) during the week to change Duff's mind proved fruitless."
Further into the paper, Aidan Fitzmaurice makes some pretty baseless implications and offers plenty speculation. He has some phantom quote from some unknown player that sounds good, offers little insight and could easily be made up: ""It won't last," was the comment by one former ex-international when Duff was added to the Kenny ticket last year."
Fitzmaurice also says that "Kenny is said to have relied heavily on (Keith) Andrews for counsel and also listened to Ruaidhri Higgins, a long time associate going back to his Derry City days, leaving Duff with an undefined voice." Again, this all read fairly thin to me. None of it makes much sense to me when you consider Duff's body of work as a player and a coach compared to the other pair. I just can't see it. Shoddy journalism in my opinion.
Where does Duff go from here ? He is 40 ~ If he is going to be a manager then surely he must start now.
Yep, I've said for a while that if Kenny wants to implement the style of football he's been trying he needs to replace Randolph and Duffy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trequartista20
People thought Guardiola was mad when one of his 1st decisions at City was to get rid of Joe Hart. England's 1st choice at the time but he was a disaster with ball at his feet. I can't even remember who he replaced him with until they eventually signed Ederson. It was all about setting up the passing game from the back.
I wouldn't find it a shock to see an up and coming keeper like Kelleher replacing a guy who's now just happy to pick up a paycheck at his club.
It would be very welcome if he does. It will be less so if we're forced to call on him before he's ready. The signs have been promising, but that's no guarantee in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
Strangely, Duffy had one of the highest pass completion rates in the squad from the Nations League games
He was on the ball a lot but he played a lot of very poor passes that put us under pressure. We never once looked at those games and thought Duffy was becoming the new BeckenbauerQuote:
Originally Posted by tetsujin1979
FAI's handling of 'Videogate' led to Damien Duff's exit from Irish backroom staff https://the42.ie/5320946
Gavin Cooney has gone all out and written a piece to state that videogate has caused his departure. He uses some very interesting quotes from Duff that I hadn't read previously about how Duff didn't want to work for the FAI only for Kenny's involvement.
I'd throw the kids in too to be honest. Such is our situation that we've little to lose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Razors left peg
But we need to drop the pretence that the the composition of our World Cup draw opposition matters and that we have any sort of realistic chance of qualification. Or that the the futile re-incorporation of the likes of Arter into the set-up and making Horgan a first-team regular makes any sort of sense.
we were fourth seeds for the last world cup and we still made the play offs. We were third seeds in the draw this time do we should be aiming for the play offs again as a minimum
Play-offs "as a minimum"?
I mean, we can aim to win the group by taking each game as it comes, but topping the group ahead of the reigning European champions isn't a realistic target. This isn't 1994 any more...